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Post by touchdownbeavers on Nov 30, 2016 18:21:10 GMT -8
I've seen this at UCLA for years and years with every coach being compared to John Wooden. After Wooden came Gene Bartow, who lasted 2 years and went 52-9 an .852 winning percentage, higher than Wooden's .808. Bartow left the most successful college program in history because of fan criticism to become the AD at UA-Birmingham. Next up was Gary Cunningham who lasted 2 years at 50-8 and .862, the best winning percentage of ANY UCLA head coach. He didn't feel the pressure like Bartow, he just wanted to be behind a desk and left UCLA to become AD at Western Oregon. Next up was Larry Brown who lasted 2 years at 42-17 and .712. He left UCLA on probation and moved on after JD Morgan passed on.
All the next coaches, Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard, Jim Harrick, Steve Lavin, and Ben Howland all had winning records, and ALL were fired. Steve Alford? Who knows?
Any coach who takes the oregon duck job should expect to be compared to Chip Kelly. Good luck.
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Post by steinlager on Nov 30, 2016 18:36:35 GMT -8
Without Willie Lyles on payroll, USC on probation, fanciest locker room in football (college or pro), new hurry up offense which was a mystery to defend, ask Banker, and a Heisman winning qb, etc. it will never be duplicated. uck fans, administration, and ownership are all delusional!
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 30, 2016 20:26:25 GMT -8
i get the analogy...but are we really comparing Chip Kelly's legacy to John wooden?
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Post by osubeavs721 on Nov 30, 2016 21:47:45 GMT -8
I would say expectations are so high now at oregon, no coach is ever going to achieve it. I mean, they think and act like their alabama but they only have big game losses to show for it. Expectations and Reality are parallel lines for that program.
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Post by beaver94 on Nov 30, 2016 23:55:12 GMT -8
i get the analogy...but are we really comparing Chip Kelly's legacy to John wooden? In a lot of duck fans minds I'd say yes. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 1, 2016 8:14:39 GMT -8
I've seen this at UCLA for years and years with every coach being compared to John Wooden. After Wooden came Gene Bartow, who lasted 2 years and went 52-9 an .852 winning percentage, higher than Wooden's .808. Bartow left the most successful college program in history because of fan criticism to become the AD at UA-Birmingham. Next up was Gary Cunningham who lasted 2 years at 50-8 and .862, the best winning percentage of ANY UCLA head coach. He didn't feel the pressure like Bartow, he just wanted to be behind a desk and left UCLA to become AD at Western Oregon. Next up was Larry Brown who lasted 2 years at 42-17 and .712. He left UCLA on probation and moved on after JD Morgan passed on. All the next coaches, Larry Farmer, Walt Hazzard, Jim Harrick, Steve Lavin, and Ben Howland all had winning records, and ALL were fired. Steve Alford? Who knows? Any coach who takes the oregon duck job should expect to be compared to Chip Kelly. Good luck. There's some great info there, Touchdown! Kudos... |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 1, 2016 8:45:35 GMT -8
Take it to the Pyramid of Success board!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 9:31:25 GMT -8
I really hope they get a Saban or a Pete Carroll.
It makes the beavs better. If you believe the beavs can compete for the Rose Bowl you want to always have that challenge right there in your face. Beavs have to do it on their own merits, not just pro rated for how crappy *they* are.
I say bring it on.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 1, 2016 14:15:18 GMT -8
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 1, 2016 14:38:15 GMT -8
Got the perfect person for the duck job has plenty of experience in the Pac and plenty of experience with the ducks = Neuheisel LOL
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Post by Tigardbeav on Dec 1, 2016 15:15:02 GMT -8
Phil Knight >>>>>> more cash than a contractor! |
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 1, 2016 17:13:19 GMT -8
Phil Knight >>>>>> more cash than a contractor! It was a lot cheaper to buy a team back then, and this guy was willing to spend a lot more of his own money relative to what amounts to PK's recreational money for his school. They won a lot of national championships too. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 1, 2016 17:44:35 GMT -8
Wooden was a GREAT coach. If you refuse to acknowledge that then you either never saw his teams play or are just willfully ignorant.
And every team in the PCC/Pac-8 had their version of Sam Gilbert (including OSC's own Slats Gill).
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Post by touchdownbeavers on Dec 2, 2016 1:04:03 GMT -8
The pyramid to success is actually a triangle, but but but but i don't want to get into an argument with the greatest dead salesman this side of Kansas. I would rather hang out and listen why Arizona is a destination and the Fire (This or That coach) posts. Idiots abound.
But Phil has other things to look out for. Adidas is moving 150 jobs from Boston to Portland. Apparently "Track Town USA" is still Eugene, but also apparently, if you want to hire someone good, you don't make them move out of the neighborhood. Adidas vs Nike is heating up.
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 2, 2016 21:19:12 GMT -8
The pyramid to success is actually a triangle, but but but but i don't want to get into an argument with the greatest dead salesman this side of Kansas. I would rather hang out and listen why Arizona is a destination and the Fire (This or That coach) posts. Idiots abound. But Phil has other things to look out for. Adidas is moving 150 jobs from Boston to Portland. Apparently "Track Town USA" is still Eugene, but also apparently, if you want to hire someone good, you don't make them move out of the neighborhood. Adidas vs Nike is heating up. 3 stripes. |
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