|
|
Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 29, 2016 9:17:33 GMT -8
Garretson's best stats came in game one against Minnesota. His stats against Idaho State? 50% completion, 0 TDs, 1 Int His stats against Cal? 54% completion, 0 TDs, 3 Int Garretson did not throw one single TD pass in the six games he played in after the Minnesota game. 3M showed substantial growth, don't really care who or what the competition was. He got better as the season wore on. Garretson did not. Seemed like something happened to DG, either mentally or physically. Or both. Towards the end of his run he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Not even close. It was just weird. I'm not trying to dump on Garretson, I think part of it was poor offensive line play. But he is streaky, and has zero touch (throwing a laser to a receiver 15 feet away), and I honestly can think of only one pass he completed more than 20 yards downfield, and that was a phenomenal catch by Bolden. He just doesn't seem to have the touch that 3M does, and he didn't show improvement, which is a big one. He does seem to have good awareness, but I think as the season wore on, 3M showed he does too. He stepped up in the pocket nicely vs. AZ and ran for the extra yards when needed to convert. |
|
|
|
Post by kersting13 on Nov 29, 2016 11:01:51 GMT -8
Garretson's best stats came in game one against Minnesota. His stats against Idaho State? 50% completion, 0 TDs, 1 Int His stats against Cal? 54% completion, 0 TDs, 3 Int Garretson did not throw one single TD pass in the six games he played in after the Minnesota game. 3M showed substantial growth, don't really care who or what the competition was. He got better as the season wore on. Garretson did not. And being realistic, the Minnesota game stats are NOT terribly impressive. Add in the lost sack yardage to the passing plays and lost fumbles to the passing stats and we had 44 passing plays for 204 net yards with 3TDs and 2 turnovers. Thats 4.6 yards per pass play. Even without the sacks added in, he only averaged 5.7 yards per pass thrown. |
|
|
|
Post by TheGlove on Nov 29, 2016 11:38:24 GMT -8
Garretson's best stats came in game one against Minnesota. His stats against Idaho State? 50% completion, 0 TDs, 1 Int His stats against Cal? 54% completion, 0 TDs, 3 Int Garretson did not throw one single TD pass in the six games he played in after the Minnesota game. 3M showed substantial growth, don't really care who or what the competition was. He got better as the season wore on. Garretson did not. And being realistic, the Minnesota game stats are NOT terribly impressive. Add in the lost sack yardage to the passing plays and lost fumbles to the passing stats and we had 44 passing plays for 204 net yards with 3TDs and 2 turnovers. Thats 4.6 yards per pass play. Even without the sacks added in, he only averaged 5.7 yards per pass thrown. Not sure you can put all the blame on DG for the 2 sack/fumbles. In my memory their true frosh DE came untouched from the blindside and I thought that DG wasn't going to get back up. Brutal hits. |
|
|
|
Post by zebraworks on Nov 29, 2016 11:53:27 GMT -8
If a QB can't make completions very far downfield they shouldn't be starting.
|
|
|
|
Post by atownbeaver on Nov 29, 2016 11:54:15 GMT -8
And being realistic, the Minnesota game stats are NOT terribly impressive. Add in the lost sack yardage to the passing plays and lost fumbles to the passing stats and we had 44 passing plays for 204 net yards with 3TDs and 2 turnovers. Thats 4.6 yards per pass play. Even without the sacks added in, he only averaged 5.7 yards per pass thrown. Not sure you can put all the blame on DG for the 2 sack/fumbles. In my memory their true frosh DE came untouched from the blindside and I thought that DG wasn't going to get back up. Brutal hits. one yes... the other one was a front side sack from pretty wide. I'd argue Garrettson probably should of seen him and at least given us a turtle! |
|
|
|
Post by mountainbeaver on Nov 29, 2016 12:58:08 GMT -8
IMO, the biggest loss by far is Harlow. When he came back our oline
play improved drastically. 17 sacks in the first 4 games, 8 in the last 8.
Im all in with 3M at this point but wonder how Garretson might have
performed had he not taken the shellacking he did early. We did get a lot
of guys PT during the injuries, but I think how the OLine goes next year
will largely determine whether we go back to bowling. 3M proved in the Civil
War that he can run as well as pass which I wanted to see. I wonder if coaches
discouraged his running in earlier games given our lack of options should he have
gotten injured. I like our teams arc right now and think GA is bringing a toughness
thats been needed. Hopefully the QB situation is less of a 3 ring circus next year.
|
|
|
|
Post by atownbeaver on Nov 29, 2016 13:28:53 GMT -8
IMO, the biggest loss by far is Harlow. When he came back our oline play improved drastically. 17 sacks in the first 4 games, 8 in the last 8. Im all in with 3M at this point but wonder how Garretson might have performed had he not taken the shellacking he did early. We did get a lot of guys PT during the injuries, but I think how the OLine goes next year will largely determine whether we go back to bowling. 3M proved in the Civil War that he can run as well as pass which I wanted to see. I wonder if coaches discouraged his running in earlier games given our lack of options should he have gotten injured. I like our teams arc right now and think GA is bringing a toughness thats been needed. Hopefully the QB situation is less of a 3 ring circus next year. There might be something to this yes... But man, I have seen him flat miss with zero pressure and set feet. Guy just can't throw I am afraid. But hey, you never know. |
|
|
|
Post by beaverstever on Nov 29, 2016 13:57:17 GMT -8
The Minn game, I thought DG was a warrior - he was getting killed, and still made some plays. He didn't look like the same QB to me in any game after that. After that game, some of his throws have been real head-scratchers in terms of how far off they were, even on some easier routes. And then when he would actually throw on-target, our receivers had frequent drops, almost as if they were real surprised at the ball location. 3M made the same receivers suddenly look like they had much better hands and ran better routes. Our pass game was so hideous most of the time with DG that I've been trying to erase it from my memory. I have a hard time believing GA wants to see any more of that.
My guess is that DG is much better than what we've largely seen, but the Minn game messed with his head. That often is the toughest thing to fix though.
|
|
|
|
Post by biggieorange on Nov 29, 2016 15:37:19 GMT -8
Garretson's best stats came in game one against Minnesota. His stats against Idaho State? 50% completion, 0 TDs, 1 Int His stats against Cal? 54% completion, 0 TDs, 3 Int Garretson did not throw one single TD pass in the six games he played in after the Minnesota game. 3M showed substantial growth, don't really care who or what the competition was. He got better as the season wore on. Garretson did not. Seemed like something happened to DG, either mentally or physically. Or both. Towards the end of his run he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Not even close. It was just weird. His passing footwork went way down after the Minn game. I don't know if that had to do with an injury or what, but his feet were bad and his accuracy sucked as a result IMHO. |
|
