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Post by nabeav on Nov 18, 2015 8:30:35 GMT -8
I went into that game excited to really watch Tinkle and Thompson, and while they were great, the two guys that really impressed me were Big G and PJ (or is it Derrick?) Bruce. The pass G made out of the double team to Olaf was a great sign, and he'll be more than capable of filling minutes if and when Eubanks gets in foul trouble, and Bruce's pace and ability to handle the ball will be invaluable off the bench in giving Duvivier and GPII a rest. The depth allows guys like Olaf and LMW, who are good players with some flaws in their games, to kind of focus on what they do well and not be forced into situations that are outside of their comfort zones. Keeping GPII fresh later on in the season will be a major factor in helping us get over the hump.
I worry about consistency and playing to the level of our opponent - we looked much better against Iona than we did against NCU - but if this team continues to play like they did last night, we could be in for a very fun season!
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Post by Beavcat on Nov 18, 2015 8:32:59 GMT -8
We're much better, deeper, fun to watch, we will get better than tonight, and would love to see this team go far but... This is a Iona team that won 26 and still goes to the NIT because half those wins are versus low level competition. This Iona team got hammered by 25 by Valpo who held them to 58. Iona is a team we should beat with this talent. Beat Rice on the road, handle UCSB on the road and then we can talk Valpo next Tuesday. I very very good defensive team... better opponent fg% than we had last year. It is so nice to see 10+ players... No disrespect to the walk ons last year... hit the floor without Jarmal and Daniel. But, the bad habit from a year ago is still there... losing focus for 2,3,4 minute stretches. A win is a win, 2-0 is 2-0... But we expected that. Let's go to work on the road now... to dance you have to win on the road and beat tourney quality teams like Valpo at home. We probably have to do more than some teams since we have not danced for some time. Moist towel...
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 18, 2015 8:39:32 GMT -8
We're much better, deeper, fun to watch, we will get better than tonight, and would love to see this team go far but... This is a Iona team that won 26 and still goes to the NIT because half those wins are versus low level competition. This Iona team got hammered by 25 by Valpo who held them to 58. Iona is a team we should beat with this talent. Beat Rice on the road, handle UCSB on the road and then we can talk Valpo next Tuesday. I very very good defensive team... better opponent fg% than we had last year. It is so nice to see 10+ players... No disrespect to the walk ons last year... hit the floor without Jarmal and Daniel. But, the bad habit from a year ago is still there... losing focus for 2,3,4 minute stretches. A win is a win, 2-0 is 2-0... But we expected that. Let's go to work on the road now... to dance you have to win on the road and beat tourney quality teams like Valpo at home. We probably have to do more than some teams since we have not danced for some time. I don't know that I ever really saw a loss of focus. really the opposite in fact. they responded to road bumps in the game very well. Iona worked a rally late that was largely luck. they hit like 5 3's in a row and you can't honestly say those were uncontested or not well defended. one of them was simply very excellent ball movement by Iona for the open corner shot. the others were nailed with dudes in their faces. One was from a country mile away as the shot clock expired...They just hit the shots. The thing is, the Beavers didn't blink. they matched the rally and didn't back down. that was really encouraging to see. they met offense with offense and didn't resort to simply trying to run the clock. when Iona pressed the broke the press and drove the basket. Lots of good things in this game.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 18, 2015 8:54:08 GMT -8
We're much better, deeper, fun to watch, we will get better than tonight, and would love to see this team go far but... This is a Iona team that won 26 and still goes to the NIT because half those wins are versus low level competition. This Iona team got hammered by 25 by Valpo who held them to 58. Iona is a team we should beat with this talent. Beat Rice on the road, handle UCSB on the road and then we can talk Valpo next Tuesday. I very very good defensive team... better opponent fg% than we had last year. It is so nice to see 10+ players... No disrespect to the walk ons last year... hit the floor without Jarmal and Daniel. But, the bad habit from a year ago is still there... losing focus for 2,3,4 minute stretches. A win is a win, 2-0 is 2-0... But we expected that. Let's go to work on the road now... to dance you have to win on the road and beat tourney quality teams like Valpo at home. We probably have to do more than some teams since we have not danced for some time. I don't know that I ever really saw a loss of focus. really the opposite in fact. they responded to road bumps in the game very well. Iona worked a rally late that was largely luck. they hit like 5 3's in a row and you can't honestly say those were uncontested or not well defended. one of them was simply very excellent ball movement by Iona for the open corner shot. the others were nailed with dudes in their faces. One was from a country mile away as the shot clock expired...They just hit the shots. The thing is, the Beavers didn't blink. they matched the rally and didn't back down. that was really encouraging to see. they met offense with offense and didn't resort to simply trying to run the clock. when Iona pressed the broke the press and drove the basket. Lots of good things in this game. Except the fact we had two runs with multiple unforced to's... the stretch you mention when they hit threes was a direct follow up to 5 to's in 7 possessions... all careless and unforced. As last year, it seem that after Tinkle's no-look, between the legs dish to Eubanks we thought "game over" and relaxed. Iona had more offensive rebounds, steals, and got a rhythm from our lack of offensive precision... or even getting off a shot. We need to improve in our offensive production/possession... we were in the 300's last year. I do not see it as being a huge concern as much was do to lack of depth last year and tired legs, but it was a negative trait that needs to be limited.
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 18, 2015 9:34:20 GMT -8
I don't know that I ever really saw a loss of focus. really the opposite in fact. they responded to road bumps in the game very well. Iona worked a rally late that was largely luck. they hit like 5 3's in a row and you can't honestly say those were uncontested or not well defended. one of them was simply very excellent ball movement by Iona for the open corner shot. the others were nailed with dudes in their faces. One was from a country mile away as the shot clock expired...They just hit the shots. The thing is, the Beavers didn't blink. they matched the rally and didn't back down. that was really encouraging to see. they met offense with offense and didn't resort to simply trying to run the clock. when Iona pressed the broke the press and drove the basket. Lots of good things in this game. Except the fact we had two runs with multiple unforced to's... the stretch you mention when they hit threes was a direct follow up to 5 to's in 7 possessions... all careless and unforced. As last year, it seem that after Tinkle's no-look, between the legs dish to Eubanks we thought "game over" and relaxed. Iona had more offensive rebounds, steals, and got a rhythm from our lack of offensive precision... or even getting off a shot. We need to improve in our offensive production/possession... we were in the 300's last year. I do not see it as being a huge concern as much was do to lack of depth last year and tired legs, but it was a negative trait that needs to be limited. I suppose. I guess I am looking at it from the perspective of we made some mistakes but we nipped it in the bud and stepped up. Yes, careless over and back. The other turnover... eh, probably a bad choice but also pretty good Iona D. We basically kind of sucked it up for two possessions, but then matched offense and kept the pressure on. I think a lot of past Beaver teams, maybe even this team last year... lets Iona come back all the way.
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Post by fumblerooski on Nov 18, 2015 10:19:26 GMT -8
I don't know that I ever really saw a loss of focus. really the opposite in fact. they responded to road bumps in the game very well. Iona worked a rally late that was largely luck. they hit like 5 3's in a row and you can't honestly say those were uncontested or not well defended. one of them was simply very excellent ball movement by Iona for the open corner shot. the others were nailed with dudes in their faces. One was from a country mile away as the shot clock expired...They just hit the shots. The thing is, the Beavers didn't blink. they matched the rally and didn't back down. that was really encouraging to see. they met offense with offense and didn't resort to simply trying to run the clock. when Iona pressed the broke the press and drove the basket. Lots of good things in this game. Except the fact we had two runs with multiple unforced to's... the stretch you mention when they hit threes was a direct follow up to 5 to's in 7 possessions... all careless and unforced. As last year, it seem that after Tinkle's no-look, between the legs dish to Eubanks we thought "game over" and relaxed. Iona had more offensive rebounds, steals, and got a rhythm from our lack of offensive precision... or even getting off a shot. We need to improve in our offensive production/possession... we were in the 300's last year. I do not see it as being a huge concern as much was do to lack of depth last year and tired legs, but it was a negative trait that needs to be limited. I mostly agree with your assessment here. There was some sloppy play at the end. they didn't box out as well as I would have liked and they got a little careless with the ball when the game was seemingly in hand. However, I like the way the team responded to their mistakes by hustling on defense and making some key shots to extend the lead back to 20. That is a trait we haven't seen in Beaver basketball for a while and it's a testament to the mental toughness this staff has instilled in the team. These guys are young and it's going to take some time to put it all together but there is clearly potential for this to be a very good team.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 18, 2015 10:28:08 GMT -8
Interesting to watch Tres. He doesn't look athletic or particularly quick, but man is he in the right places at the right times to make things happen. He did a lot of good things tonight. He looks athletic and quick to me. And I meant that in a good way... He looks kind of gangly and to me it seems as though he positions himself extremely well rather than using quick jerky jerky movements... Some guys are constantly trying to make up ground using their quicks. It's kind of weird to describe. First time I saw Lester Conner play I thought "smooth and loose" rather than quick, thought he'd be an AA player for us, and that was after Blume and Radford. William Brew looked quick (and good) to me. It's kind of tough to define how I label athletes. While I'm at it... Eubanks, wow. If he can develop a good touch from 14-16 feet out he could be the best power forward I've ever seen at OSU. He's athletic, challenges and changes opposing players' shots, follows the play/ball well, putting himself in position to jam missed shots, and he has amazingly good hands for a big guy. One of his last jams came on a breakaway and he was crossing at good speed just forward of the hoop and got the ball just above hip level and jammed it all in one move... Most guys would have landed, got set for a moment, then gone up while being challenged. He's got something special, I'm not sure whether he's a center or forward. All of the freshmen looked real good, none seemed to look out of place or struggling to play within the scheme. Call me impressed with the whole group.
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Post by osuflattailgater on Nov 18, 2015 10:57:22 GMT -8
I want there to be another game like now or tonight, these guys are exciting
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Post by georgevonbeaverstrom on Nov 18, 2015 11:09:02 GMT -8
He looks athletic and quick to me. While I'm at it... Eubanks, wow. If he can develop a good touch from 14-16 feet out he could be the best power forward I've ever seen at OSU. He's athletic, challenges and changes opposing players' shots, follows the play/ball well, putting himself in position to jam missed shots, and he has amazingly good hands for a big guy. One of his last jams came on a breakaway and he was crossing at good speed just forward of the hoop and got the ball just above hip level and jammed it all in one move... Most guys would have landed, got set for a moment, then gone up while being challenged. He's got something special, I'm not sure whether he's a center or forward. These are absolutely awful comparisons, but I can't decide if Eubanks reminds me of Rob Gronkowski or a Golden Retriever... or both...
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 18, 2015 11:16:37 GMT -8
Great win over Iowa! I didn't get to see the game, but any time you beat a Big 10 team it's something to crow about! Is Raveling still the coach there?
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 18, 2015 11:26:08 GMT -8
NICE! LMAO... ok, wait... you're being funny right?
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