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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 22, 2024 19:46:28 GMT -8
According to the Dodgers.
RIP to a baseball icon.
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 22, 2024 20:21:20 GMT -8
Wow. 63. Bummer. I was at his no hitter. 1990.
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 23, 2024 14:11:27 GMT -8
great ESPN 30 for 30 about him. for where he was born and raised to the mound at Dodger stadium might as well have been a different universe. story touches on how the Dodgers and the city of LA acquired Chavez ravine, not their proudest moment. displaces many Mexican family that had lived there for generations. it was amazing what he meant to that communities kids and grandkids. by all accounts, a kind and gentle soul that was unaffected by his fame. RIP
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 23, 2024 16:47:36 GMT -8
great ESPN 30 for 30 about him. for where he was born and raised to the mound at Dodger stadium might as well have been a different universe. story touches on how the Dodgers and the city of LA acquired Chavez ravine, not their proudest moment. displaces many Mexican family that had lived there for generations. it was amazing what he meant to that communities kids and grandkids. by all accounts, a kind and gentle soul that was unaffected by his fame. RIP Only ROY and Cy Young winner in same season before, since, and most likely ever! |
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 23, 2024 22:59:58 GMT -8
Damn. 😢. RIP
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 24, 2024 7:23:12 GMT -8
lifelong Dodgers fan here...
Fernando-mania 8-0 start in 1981 and Orel's 59 consecutive scoreless are just incredible heaters.
Fernando's first 8 games = 8-0, 8 CG, 5 shutouts, 4 ER in 72 IP as a 20yr old.
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 24, 2024 13:12:15 GMT -8
lifelong Dodgers fan here... Fernando-mania 8-0 start in 1981 and Orel's 59 consecutive scoreless are just incredible heaters. Fernando's first 8 games = 8-0, 8 CG, 5 shutouts, 4 ER in 72 IP as a 20yr old. well he wouldn’t do that now because some pencil neck with glasses would tell the manager that you can’t go through a batting order more than twice. Fernando mania could not happen in today’s game, and the game is poorer because of that. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 24, 2024 19:49:06 GMT -8
lifelong Dodgers fan here... Fernando-mania 8-0 start in 1981 and Orel's 59 consecutive scoreless are just incredible heaters. Fernando's first 8 games = 8-0, 8 CG, 5 shutouts, 4 ER in 72 IP as a 20yr old. well he wouldn’t do that now because some pencil neck with glasses would tell the manager that you can’t go through a batting order more than twice. Fernando mania could not happen in today’s game, and the game is poorer because of that. Then again, had he not thrown at least 250 innings every season between the age of 20 and 26 he might not have been essentially finished by the time he was 30. He was 4-24 in his last three MLB seasons. Ouch. |
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Post by ag87 on Oct 24, 2024 20:27:09 GMT -8
well he wouldn’t do that now because some pencil neck with glasses would tell the manager that you can’t go through a batting order more than twice. Fernando mania could not happen in today’s game, and the game is poorer because of that. Then again, had he not thrown at least 250 innings every season between the age of 20 and 26 he might not have been essentially finished by the time he was 30. He was 4-24 in his last three MLB seasons. Ouch. That's my opinion. For every Bob Gibson, you ruin 10 arms finding him. And not knowing much about Gibson, at least at the MLB level, he was 25 before he started logging a lot of innings. As a side note, 255 complete games in his career. As another side note, Nolan Ryan was 25 the first season he ever went over 160 innings. But I think it was an effectiveness issue for him. Once he started throwing more strikes, he pitched and pitched. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 24, 2024 21:40:09 GMT -8
Ryan also had reserve military obligations that took him away from the Mets for weeks at a time when he was first in MLB. In the long run, probably a blessing.
The Mets also had an outstanding starting rotation (Seaver, Koosman, Gentry, McAndrew) that kept Ryan in the bullpen. Another blessing in the long run.
The Mets always believed he was going to be great, especially after the 1969 NLCS and the WS, just not with the Mets. He was not comfortable living in the New York City area, the Mets needed a left-side infielder, thought Jim Fregosi was the answer to their problems and conservative Orange County was a place a rural Texas farmboy like Ryan was comfortable.
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