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Post by messi on Oct 18, 2024 12:38:25 GMT -8
I realized I'm no longer the best coach to lead this program in this current environmentA lot changed between the national championship Virginia won and Bennett's retirement this week, namely surrounding what Bennett termed as the move towards a more "professional model" in college basketball.
"The game, and college athletics, is not in a healthy spot," he said. "It's not. And there needs to be change.
"I was equipped to do the job the old way. That's who I am," he continued. "But there needs to be change. It's going to be closer to a professional model. There's got to be collective bargaining. There's got to be restrictions on a salary pool a team can spend. There has to be transfer regulation restrictions. There has to be some restrictions on the agent involvement on some of the young guys."
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Post by joecool on Oct 18, 2024 12:42:21 GMT -8
Just over 2 weeks until the season begins, nice timing coach.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 18, 2024 13:03:44 GMT -8
Just over 2 weeks until the season begins, nice timing coach. This way he makes sure the assistant of his choosing gets first crack at the job as an interim coach. I like Tony Bennett, think he is a classy guy who tried to do right by the rules and his players. Everything he mentioned is true. What he failed to mention is the tremendous compensation packages coaches now receive, compared to 20-30 years ago. Maybe if coaches weren't earning millions, the players might not have wanted (or deserved) so much money as the generators of the program's income. Yes, he was equipped to do the job the old way. But I'm sure he like his salary under the "new" way. Either way, you can't have it both ways anymore. If there are restrictions on player movement/salary, some kind of restriction should apply to the coaches too. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 18, 2024 17:31:33 GMT -8
Just over 2 weeks until the season begins, nice timing coach. When the going gets tough, Quit. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 19, 2024 8:51:32 GMT -8
Just over 2 weeks until the season begins, nice timing coach. This way he makes sure the assistant of his choosing gets first crack at the job as an interim coach. I like Tony Bennett, think he is a classy guy who tried to do right by the rules and his players. Everything he mentioned is true. What he failed to mention is the tremendous compensation packages coaches now receive, compared to 20-30 years ago. Maybe if coaches weren't earning millions, the players might not have wanted (or deserved) so much money as the generators of the program's income. Yes, he was equipped to do the job the old way. But I'm sure he like his salary under the "new" way. Either way, you can't have it both ways anymore. If there are restrictions on player movement/salary, some kind of restriction should apply to the coaches too. Disagree. I have never heard that the players should get paid because the coaches make so much. That’s nonsense. The arguement, subsequently presented in the courts was that the SCHOOLS made so much basically off the athletes name, image, and likeness. Then it spun out of control of course, as the current payments are not tied in any way to those 3 things. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 19, 2024 9:13:13 GMT -8
This way he makes sure the assistant of his choosing gets first crack at the job as an interim coach. I like Tony Bennett, think he is a classy guy who tried to do right by the rules and his players. Everything he mentioned is true. What he failed to mention is the tremendous compensation packages coaches now receive, compared to 20-30 years ago. Maybe if coaches weren't earning millions, the players might not have wanted (or deserved) so much money as the generators of the program's income. Yes, he was equipped to do the job the old way. But I'm sure he like his salary under the "new" way. Either way, you can't have it both ways anymore. If there are restrictions on player movement/salary, some kind of restriction should apply to the coaches too. Disagree. I have never heard that the players should get paid because the coaches make so much. That’s nonsense. The arguement, subsequently presented in the courts was that the SCHOOLS made so much basically off the athletes name, image, and likeness. Then it spun out of control of course, as the current payments are not tied in any way to those 3 things. Who do you think pays the coaches? The schools, making millions. If that revenue can be shared with the coaches, the argument was it should also be shared with the players. If you had never heard that justification, you haven't been listening enough. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 19, 2024 9:14:31 GMT -8
This way he makes sure the assistant of his choosing gets first crack at the job as an interim coach. I like Tony Bennett, think he is a classy guy who tried to do right by the rules and his players. Everything he mentioned is true. What he failed to mention is the tremendous compensation packages coaches now receive, compared to 20-30 years ago. Maybe if coaches weren't earning millions, the players might not have wanted (or deserved) so much money as the generators of the program's income. Yes, he was equipped to do the job the old way. But I'm sure he like his salary under the "new" way. Either way, you can't have it both ways anymore. If there are restrictions on player movement/salary, some kind of restriction should apply to the coaches too. Disagree. I have never heard that the players should get paid because the coaches make so much. That’s nonsense. The argument, subsequently presented in the courts was that the SCHOOLS made so much basically off the athletes name, image, and likeness. Then it spun out of control of course, as the current payments are not tied in any way to those 3 things. Eh, I think coach's compensation is wrapped up in the general idea there. It is the whole EVERYBODY is making money but us argument. But, that is the crux of the issue. Players just want money. They don't actually want to receive what their name, their image and their likeness is worth or earns. and they are seemingly not wanting to go out and do the promotional work and advertisement work associated with NIL, from what is being reported. I am here, I play football, pay me is the attitude. completely detached from: how many jersey did you sell? how many tickets are sold because of you actually? what value did you bring our sponsors and donors? a lot of that is nearly impossible to measure, but can easily be measured if you do things like meet and greats, autograph signings and TV spots.... Things we keep getting reports about players not doing or refusing to do. and for better or for worse, I wonder how much these collectives are part of the problem. I think they help by pooling up money but hey have created this environment where pooled money is delivered for a set of nebulous expectations. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 19, 2024 9:19:32 GMT -8
Disagree. I have never heard that the players should get paid because the coaches make so much. That’s nonsense. The arguement, subsequently presented in the courts was that the SCHOOLS made so much basically off the athletes name, image, and likeness. Then it spun out of control of course, as the current payments are not tied in any way to those 3 things. Who do you think pays the coaches? The schools, making millions. If that revenue can be shared with the coaches, the argument was it should also be shared with the players. If you had never heard that justification, you haven't been listening enough. I bow to you great listener… Name change: Going forward, the idea behind compensating athletes will be referred to as NILCS. Name, Image, Likeness, and Coaches Salaries. |
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Post by ag87 on Oct 19, 2024 10:59:27 GMT -8
Who do you think pays the coaches? The schools, making millions. If that revenue can be shared with the coaches, the argument was it should also be shared with the players. If you had never heard that justification, you haven't been listening enough. I bow to you great listener… Name change: Going forward, the idea behind compensating athletes will be referred to as NILCS. Name, Image, Likeness, and Coaches Salaries. That's the Dodgers and the Mets, right? National Independent League Championship Series. |
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Post by rob85 on Oct 19, 2024 11:04:03 GMT -8
I don't pay attention to this, maybe I should, but do athletes receiving NIL money sign a contract of any kind? If not, that is insane.
As far as athletes being paid directly by universities, where is this money coming from? Most athletic departments don't have that kind of scratch.
As far as Tony Bennett resigning now, not a great choice, but maybe better than coaching while wanting to be elsewhere. School got 6 ACC titles and a national championship from him, there is a replacement in the program and does it matter to the players? In this day of NIL and a wide open transfer portal, I doubt that they care much. Bitter cynic that I am.
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