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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 3, 2024 18:22:25 GMT -8
Heard on the radio today that the legal team representing the Pac in the lawsuit against the MWC might be the top anti-trust attorneys in the country. The guy they interviewed, also well-versed in anti-trust, said it's smart they filed in Federal court and it's an obvious move to force a settlement and a reduction in fees. These attorneys also have (or still do) represent the Major League Baseball Players Association. And if you know anything about MLB labor law, the MLBPA is pretty much undefeated since the McNally-Messersmith case in the mid-1970s. But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? |
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Post by 415hawaiiboy on Oct 3, 2024 18:54:19 GMT -8
It's very clear the Pac-12 has either completely f%#*ed up, or has a very specific strategy in mind they are still trying to leverage. They absolutely do not want to be in a big full time football conference splitting money 12 or 14 ways with UNM and Wyo and UTEP, etc. I still think they should have taken Hawai'i as a football only member, and then thrown the money you're talking about at Memphis. I don't think you can claim there is any kind of f%#* up going on. I think you can claim some things haven't landed. But it is the sausage getting made. You can also claim where we stand right now isn't a bad position. We have 7 football schools with a year and a half to go. we have 8 total schools. All the schools are better than the bottom half of the MWC. In absolutely no universe did the Pac-12 want the bottom half of the MWC. so we did first, correct, and right thing. We secured the top 4 teams. UNLV is and proved to be a political nightmare of a school. they didn't come first or second because they have to convince not only themselves it is the right move but their legislature. UNLV being bribed to stay is a curveball, but I don't think it is fair to say a f%#* up. We literally matched the staying money. Hawaii is a bottom team. Hawaii only has one possible value, it can be an automatic late night kick off nearly every week without negatively impacting that team. But the problem there is they themselves aren't actually east, so does anybody care? We aren't sitting in some terrible position right now. before this is done we are going to either A. convince a group including Memphis to join or B (I think probably the more likely one) get Texas State and maybe another Texas school like North Texas to join. And lastly, as a lot of people have noted. It appears the odds of the Pac prevailing in their lawsuit against the MWC poaching fees are pretty good. I also don't think we are done with Basketball schools. we will get one more. Just profiling, but I understand I’m on your board so I’ll be respectful. Atown has had a lifetime of superiority complex over Hawaii for recruiting due to the P12 patch on the jersey. The fact is, Hawaii and Oregon State competed for the same recruits (and coaches Cav, Legi, etc). It was the Beavs answer to finding value overlooked by the bigger bros in the conference and most cases OSU won those battles against G5’s solely because of being in a power conference. I hope you have a more open mind now that we are somewhat on a more equal footing. Getting paid P5 money and prestige for decades upon decades and poaching G5 recruits/players (more recently you took our Brandon Kipper, and in return we got your Jojo Forest - fair trade?) should have gotten you nicer things. When you evaluate please be more open minded. End rant |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 3, 2024 19:41:10 GMT -8
Heard on the radio today that the legal team representing the Pac in the lawsuit against the MWC might be the top anti-trust attorneys in the country. The guy they interviewed, also well-versed in anti-trust, said it's smart they filed in Federal court and it's an obvious move to force a settlement and a reduction in fees. These attorneys also have (or still do) represent the Major League Baseball Players Association. And if you know anything about MLB labor law, the MLBPA is pretty much undefeated since the McNally-Messersmith case in the mid-1970s. But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? I think he said because any appeals would go to the 9th circuit court, which they view as favorable. |
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Post by dK on Oct 3, 2024 21:58:30 GMT -8
Heard on the radio today that the legal team representing the Pac in the lawsuit against the MWC might be the top anti-trust attorneys in the country. The guy they interviewed, also well-versed in anti-trust, said it's smart they filed in Federal court and it's an obvious move to force a settlement and a reduction in fees. These attorneys also have (or still do) represent the Major League Baseball Players Association. And if you know anything about MLB labor law, the MLBPA is pretty much undefeated since the McNally-Messersmith case in the mid-1970s. But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? Alan Thayer, an attorney who started the FB site beavers behind enemy lines, was on the Joe Beaver show and said the same law firm that represented OSU and WSU in court in Washington were top anti-trust attorneys and to his knowledge were also representing the Pac in federal court. They are based in San Francisco so that could be why they filed in the bay area. |
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Post by dK on Oct 3, 2024 22:08:11 GMT -8
But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? I think he said because any appeals would go to the 9th circuit court, which they view as favorable. They could have filed just about anywhere in the west including HI and AK and been in the 9th circuit. I think all of the Pacific states and Montana, Nevada, Idaho, and Arizona are in that circuit as well. |
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Post by dK on Oct 3, 2024 22:13:42 GMT -8
Article in Sportico confirms the same law firm based in San Francisco is also suing the MWC over poaching.
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 4, 2024 6:19:14 GMT -8
I think he said because any appeals would go to the 9th circuit court, which they view as favorable. They could have filed just about anywhere in the west including HI and AK and been in the 9th circuit. I think all of the Pacific states and Montana, Nevada, Idaho, and Arizona are in that circuit as well.
Suing in NoCal also allows us to invoke California anti-trust laws. Since the MWC (SJSU) and Pac (HQ) both operate in CA, our suit can be based on both federal and CA laws.
I don't know anything specific about CA anti-trust law, but if they are stronger than federal law then that's good for us, and if they are weaker it does us no harm.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 4, 2024 7:30:26 GMT -8
Heard on the radio today that the legal team representing the Pac in the lawsuit against the MWC might be the top anti-trust attorneys in the country. The guy they interviewed, also well-versed in anti-trust, said it's smart they filed in Federal court and it's an obvious move to force a settlement and a reduction in fees. These attorneys also have (or still do) represent the Major League Baseball Players Association. And if you know anything about MLB labor law, the MLBPA is pretty much undefeated since the McNally-Messersmith case in the mid-1970s. But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? Evoking the inverse Hamilton. "Everything's legal in Jersey" to "Nothing is legal in Cali" |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 4, 2024 10:07:27 GMT -8
But why the Northern District of California? Why sue in San Jose State's District? Evoking the inverse Hamilton. "Everything's legal in Jersey" to "Nothing is legal in Cali" I think that you are on to something perhaps. It has to be the most liberal district in the Ninth Circuit. Maybe they are banking on the judges and jury being stupid anti-contract? Dunno. |
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