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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 28, 2024 17:24:53 GMT -8
Plot twist!!
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 28, 2024 19:06:43 GMT -8
The stud program that just lost to Sam Houston St! They can have 'em. Don't need a team from a state to recruit it.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 28, 2024 19:49:47 GMT -8
MW really battlin, I'll give em that. I kind of expected Pac to go after Texas St.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 28, 2024 20:16:39 GMT -8
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 29, 2024 11:15:13 GMT -8
As we have said before. It isn't about how good you are right now. it is about how good you can be and what you can be. What can Texas St be? what can be built there? what interest is there in Texas State overall and how many people would want to watch there games?
The have only been an FBS program since 2007. But they have significant support in development of their program. Their student body voted with over 90% support to raise student fees to support building a bigger stadium.
As a university, Texas St. is on par with SDSU. It is an R2 research university with just over $400M endowment. It is a superior research institution to both Boise St. and Fresno State. And yes, academic reputation does matter. It has 40,000 students,
San Marcos is connected to the Austin metro area, so it is a desirable metro area and according to people in the area, and internet chatter a booming development area. It is the direction of the growth.
Texas is getting out east, but Texas is an appealing state to be in. It is a major hot bed of football talent. There isn't a school in this conference that doesn't want to be playing in Texas. The question isn't "do we want Texas State"? it is "can we get another on to come with them?" most likely.
Of the options out there being tossed around, that are cringy as hell... like eastern Washington, Sacramento state, etc... Texas State is far and away better than those. I am not necessarily saying we should roll out the red carpet for them, but I like Texas State better than what is left over in the MWC and far and away better than elevating any FCS school...
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 30, 2024 8:22:54 GMT -8
As we have said before. It isn't about how good you are right now. it is about how good you can be and what you can be. What can Texas St be? what can be built there? what interest is there in Texas State overall and how many people would want to watch there games? The have only been an FBS program since 2007. But they have significant support in development of their program. Their student body voted with over 90% support to raise student fees to support building a bigger stadium. As a university, Texas St. is on par with SDSU. It is an R2 research university with just over $400M endowment. It is a superior research institution to both Boise St. and Fresno State. And yes, academic reputation does matter. It has 40,000 students, San Marcos is connected to the Austin metro area, so it is a desirable metro area and according to people in the area, and internet chatter a booming development area. It is the direction of the growth. Texas is getting out east, but Texas is an appealing state to be in. It is a major hot bed of football talent. There isn't a school in this conference that doesn't want to be playing in Texas. The question isn't "do we want Texas State"? it is "can we get another on to come with them?" most likely. Of the options out there being tossed around, that are cringy as hell... like eastern Washington, Sacramento state, etc... Texas State is far and away better than those. I am not necessarily saying we should roll out the red carpet for them, but I like Texas State better than what is left over in the MWC and far and away better than elevating any FCS school... I fear we may be too late. The MWC has their fingers into TSU.
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Post by johnnychimpo on Sept 30, 2024 8:28:09 GMT -8
As we have said before. It isn't about how good you are right now. it is about how good you can be and what you can be. What can Texas St be? what can be built there? what interest is there in Texas State overall and how many people would want to watch there games? The have only been an FBS program since 2007. But they have significant support in development of their program. Their student body voted with over 90% support to raise student fees to support building a bigger stadium. As a university, Texas St. is on par with SDSU. It is an R2 research university with just over $400M endowment. It is a superior research institution to both Boise St. and Fresno State. And yes, academic reputation does matter. It has 40,000 students, It's nearly guaranteed that we reach R1 status by 2027. Our first year we were allowed to go to a FBS bowl was 2013, not 2007, and we had a bowl eligible record in the 1st 2 seasons we were allowed to go to one. As for that Sam Houston game, look beyond that box score. We coughed up a fumble on a broken play deep in our own territory that ended up going for a TD. Went for it on 4th and 2 from our own 20 with a 12 point lead late in the game that later lead to a Sam Houston TD. Missed a 35 yard chip shot field goal after making a 60 yarder earlier in the game. Went for it on 4th down again when a 52 yarder could have been kicked after just nailing a 60 yarder. 20 points were just given to Sam Houston due to huge coaching mistakes within the last 20 minutes of the game. They didn't earn anything winning that game.
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 30, 2024 8:29:54 GMT -8
As we have said before. It isn't about how good you are right now. it is about how good you can be and what you can be. What can Texas St be? what can be built there? what interest is there in Texas State overall and how many people would want to watch there games? The have only been an FBS program since 2007. But they have significant support in development of their program. Their student body voted with over 90% support to raise student fees to support building a bigger stadium. As a university, Texas St. is on par with SDSU. It is an R2 research university with just over $400M endowment. It is a superior research institution to both Boise St. and Fresno State. And yes, academic reputation does matter. It has 40,000 students, San Marcos is connected to the Austin metro area, so it is a desirable metro area and according to people in the area, and internet chatter a booming development area. It is the direction of the growth. Texas is getting out east, but Texas is an appealing state to be in. It is a major hot bed of football talent. There isn't a school in this conference that doesn't want to be playing in Texas. The question isn't "do we want Texas State"? it is "can we get another on to come with them?" most likely. Of the options out there being tossed around, that are cringy as hell... like eastern Washington, Sacramento state, etc... Texas State is far and away better than those. I am not necessarily saying we should roll out the red carpet for them, but I like Texas State better than what is left over in the MWC and far and away better than elevating any FCS school... I fear we may be too late. The MWC has their fingers into TSU. My own theory is Texas State is a back-up plan and that they are revisiting the AAC schools. It's gone radio silence. Canzano said his own sources have gone quiet. I think they are working something and thankfully shored up the leaks. At least that's what I'm going with this morning. Subject to change.
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 30, 2024 8:30:58 GMT -8
I fear we may be too late. The MWC has their fingers into TSU. My own theory is Texas State is a back-up plan and that they are revisiting the AAC schools. It's gone radio silence. Canzano said his own sources have gone quiet. I think they are working something and thankfully shored up the leaks. At least that's what I'm going with this morning. Subject to change. Agreed. Hopefully the silence is a lessons learned from everyone blabbing about the deal making out in the open on the wire. So dumb all parties did that.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 8:47:17 GMT -8
As we have said before. It isn't about how good you are right now. it is about how good you can be and what you can be. What can Texas St be? what can be built there? what interest is there in Texas State overall and how many people would want to watch there games? The have only been an FBS program since 2007. But they have significant support in development of their program. Their student body voted with over 90% support to raise student fees to support building a bigger stadium. As a university, Texas St. is on par with SDSU. It is an R2 research university with just over $400M endowment. It is a superior research institution to both Boise St. and Fresno State. And yes, academic reputation does matter. It has 40,000 students, It's nearly guaranteed that we reach R1 status by 2027. Our first year we were allowed to go to a FBS bowl was 2013, not 2007, and we had a bowl eligible record in the 1st 2 seasons we were allowed to go to one. As for that Sam Houston game, look beyond that box score. We coughed up a fumble on a broken play deep in our own territory that ended up going for a TD. Went for it on 4th and 2 from our own 20 with a 12 point lead late in the game that later lead to a Sam Houston TD. Missed a 35 yard chip shot field goal after making a 60 yarder earlier in the game. Went for it on 4th down again when a 52 yarder could have been kicked after just nailing a 60 yarder. 20 points were just given to Sam Houston due to huge coaching mistakes within the last 20 minutes of the game. They didn't earn anything winning that game. I thought losses were losses even if your coaching staff were dipsh&ts? And, trying to sell a program, a embarrassing loss, by disparaging your current staff isn't a great selling point. I hope the MWC "wins" this recruiting battle.
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Post by johnnychimpo on Sept 30, 2024 9:05:56 GMT -8
Yeah IDK man outlook looks worse for a Fresno team that just joined. Couldn't even crack 25K in attendance to host a ranked team that just had 2 players opt out for the rest of the season and then got throttled anyway. I imagine there's a lot more bulldogs disparaging the Fresno staff. I mean 1 yard per carry for FSU? Really? UNLV season high was previously 27 points scored against a FBS opponent.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 9:10:25 GMT -8
Yeah IDK man outlook looks worse for a Fresno team that just joined. Couldn't even crack 25K in attendance to host a ranked team that just had 2 players opt out for the rest of the season and then got throttled anyway. I imagine there's a lot more bulldogs disparaging the Fresno staff. I mean 1 yard per carry for FSU? Really? UNLV season high was previously 27 points scored against a FBS opponent. Historically, Fresno is a good football program and UNLV sucks......it's bizarro world
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 30, 2024 9:22:55 GMT -8
Yeah IDK man outlook looks worse for a Fresno team that just joined. Couldn't even crack 25K in attendance to host a ranked team that just had 2 players opt out for the rest of the season and then got throttled anyway. I imagine there's a lot more bulldogs disparaging the Fresno staff. I mean 1 yard per carry for FSU? Really? UNLV season high was previously 27 points scored against a FBS opponent. Dude the game was in Las Vegas. I'd say UNLV looks like the chumps if a ranked team couldn't even crack 25K. That game would have sold out in Fresno.
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 30, 2024 9:27:36 GMT -8
Yeah IDK man outlook looks worse for a Fresno team that just joined. Couldn't even crack 25K in attendance to host a ranked team that just had 2 players opt out for the rest of the season and then got throttled anyway. I imagine there's a lot more bulldogs disparaging the Fresno staff. I mean 1 yard per carry for FSU? Really? UNLV season high was previously 27 points scored against a FBS opponent. Historically, Fresno is a good football program and UNLV sucks......it's bizarro world though if UNLV keeps winning, Odom won't be there long. He makes $400K and there will be programs calling. Could see someone like Arkansas making a change after this year and Odom previously coached at Missouri and did a year or two as an assistant at Arkansas.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 30, 2024 9:28:19 GMT -8
Yeah IDK man outlook looks worse for a Fresno team that just joined. Couldn't even crack 25K in attendance to host a ranked team that just had 2 players opt out for the rest of the season and then got throttled anyway. I imagine there's a lot more bulldogs disparaging the Fresno staff. I mean 1 yard per carry for FSU? Really? UNLV season high was previously 27 points scored against a FBS opponent. Dude the game was in Las Vegas. I'd say UNLV looks like the chumps if a ranked team couldn't even crack 25K. That game would have sold out in Fresno. UNLV has a good team and no one in Vegas really cares.....big surprise
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