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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 29, 2024 5:24:51 GMT -8
I’ll be waiting for you to produce names. There might be 1 or 2 in the last 20 years. Start digging. Joe Newton Isaac Seeamalu B. Cooks And I'm guessing 10 or 15 more. Not all high schoolers buy the glitz. Only most. Brandin Cooks was not recruited by Oregon. He was recruited by UCLA, though. He was all signed up to go and then realized that he did not want to play for Rick Neuheisel, but it was so late in the recruiting process that he really only had Oregon State as a fallback and fell back into Oregon State. Everyone recruited Isaac Seumalo,. Oregon was one of the eight that offered but was not in the top two or three or four, really. It was between Oregon State and USC, and Seumalo chose Oregon State. Stanford and UCLA were the other two with a real shot outside of USC. Seumalo is really a one-off, because his dad was coaching at the time. The exception that proves the rule. Joe Newton. Newton was recruited in 2001. A lot going right there. Thurman Bell, who started on Oregon State's 1965 Rose Bowl team was the head coach at Roseburg at the time. And Newton wanted to major in forestry, which neither of the primary competition, Oregon and Washington, offered. Add to that that Dennis Erickson was Oregon State's coach at the time. Oregon invited Newton to the Stanford game and lost 49-42. Erickson invited Newton to the game against #8 Washington, which was Erickson-level ballsy, considering how 2001 played out, and Oregon State won 49-24. Washington tried to get in late, but with Bell, forestry, Erickson, and a 49-24 win over Washington, Newton signed with Oregon State. I actually got one of my coronavirus shots from Joe Newton's cousin back in 2021. She said that Joe was still in forestry and loving it. Oregon State has not been killing it in recruiting against Oregon for a couple decades. That 2002 class is probably be the last one that you could point to and argue that Oregon State was competing. But Oregon still out-recruited Oregon State in 2002. And Oregon State was far behind Oregon for at least a couple decades before that. Oregon's change in conference does nothing to upset the fact that Oregon and Oregon State have not been on a level playing field in the past 40+ years. |
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Post by pabeaver on Sept 29, 2024 7:36:16 GMT -8
…Because “go dog that s%#t up” is just gibberish. Disagree. My nephew tried to take a dump in the front yard. He definitely dogged that s%#t up! |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Sept 29, 2024 10:35:46 GMT -8
His son was a train wreck at UCLA. He was 46 - 30 with two 10 win seasons, their most successful coach of the last couple decades. On the Bruin message boards their fans are wondering if they can somehow get him to leave UConn and come back to UCLA. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 29, 2024 12:02:57 GMT -8
His son was a train wreck at UCLA. He was 46 - 30 with two 10 win seasons, their most successful coach of the last couple decades. On the Bruin message boards their fans are wondering if they can somehow get him to leave UConn and come back to UCLA. The first four seasons were too good. UCLA had consecutive 10-win seasons for the first time since 1997-1998. UCLA beat USC each of the first three years. UCLA also put up four consecutive winning seasons, which was the most in a row since should've been Oregon State coach Terry Donahue put up nine consecutive winning seasons at UCLA from 1980-1988. UCLA looked good in 2016 but lost Josh Rosen after a 3-2 start, finishing 1-6. The sole win over those final seven games? The 38-24 win over hapless Oregon State, which GAG supporters were trumpeting as one of six by less than 15 points. UCLA started 4-3 in 2017 but lost Rosen for the Washington and Utah games, both losses. Rosen returned to beat Arizona State in the Rose Bowl. USC beat UCLA for the third straight season 28-23 in the Coliseum. And then UCLA fired Mora on his birthday. UCLA would rebound to beat Cal in the season finale without Mora to finish 6-6. UCLA was invited to the final Cactus Bowl in 2017. (The Cactus Bowl changed its name to the Cheez-It Bowl for two years before changing its name to the Guaranteed Rate Bowl.) Without Mora and Rosen (who had suffered a season-ending injury against Cal), Kansas State roughed up UCLA 38-17. In the meantime, five days after Mora was fired, UCLA had already hired Chip Kelly, making it clear that Mora had been pushed out the door to make way for Kelly. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 29, 2024 20:50:45 GMT -8
What are you smoking? Name all the players that chose us over the ucks…. There multiple players who had offers from both schools and chose us. I do not have names. I don't follow recruiting obsessively, I do recall things like that. We were actually winning recruiting battles at a high level before the Pac fell apart and bitch tits bailed. FFS man all the data you need to form an opinion is out there. Do you know how the CFBPO works yet? You're just resigned to being completely wrong all the time for no reason other than what, laziness? |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 29, 2024 20:54:34 GMT -8
I’ll be waiting for you to produce names. There might be 1 or 2 in the last 20 years. Start digging. Joe Newton Isaac Seeamalu B. Cooks And I'm guessing 10 or 15 more. Not all high schoolers buy the glitz. Only most. LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 29, 2024 21:07:56 GMT -8
Joe Newton Isaac Seeamalu B. Cooks And I'm guessing 10 or 15 more. Not all high schoolers buy the glitz. Only most. LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! Jack Elway wished it was that easy. His kid would have made SJSU much better than it was. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Sept 30, 2024 5:10:50 GMT -8
LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! Jack Elway wished it was that easy. His kid would have made SJSU much better than it was. Wait, are you comparing scholarship offers from Stanford or SJSU to Scholarship offers from OSU or uo? Pretty sure Jack told John to take the Stanford scholarship or he would kick his ass, at least that is what I would have told my son. One of the recruiting advantages OSU has over uo is an Engineering program. Has nothing to do with the coaches, but it does get us a player or 2 once in a while, doesn’t compare with a Stanford degree versus SJSU degree. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 30, 2024 8:38:05 GMT -8
…Because “go dog that s%#t up” is just gibberish. Disagree. My nephew tried to take a dump in the front yard. He definitely dogged that s%#t up! LOL!!! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 30, 2024 9:19:33 GMT -8
Jack Elway wished it was that easy. His kid would have made SJSU much better than it was. Wait, are you comparing scholarship offers from Stanford or SJSU to Scholarship offers from OSU or uo? Pretty sure Jack told John to take the Stanford scholarship or he would kick his ass, at least that is what I would have told my son. One of the recruiting advantages OSU has over uo is an Engineering program. Has nothing to do with the coaches, but it does get us a player or 2 once in a while, doesn’t compare with a Stanford degree versus SJSU degree. Nope. I'm just saying that just because your dad coaches somewhere (or went somewhere) doesn't automatically mean you don't have to spend the time and effort to recruit the kid, and it's still not guaranteed he won't go elsewhere. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 1, 2024 15:06:03 GMT -8
Joe Newton Isaac Seeamalu B. Cooks And I'm guessing 10 or 15 more. Not all high schoolers buy the glitz. Only most. LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! Oregon recruited Patrick Herbert (Justin's younger brother) at tight end instead. The Ducks already had Herbert lined up and offered Musgrave one day before Musgrave committed to the Beavs. The two were the 1-2/2-1 best tight ends in Oregon in 2018. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 1, 2024 15:11:07 GMT -8
LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! Jack Elway wished it was that easy. His kid would have made SJSU much better than it was. Janet Elway made John Elway go to Stanford. |
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Post by ee1990 on Oct 1, 2024 19:48:04 GMT -8
LMFAO 20 guys(It's also way more than 20 guys) in 20 years 90% of whom were likely backup plans for Oregon? The only reason the "they/we got a guy we/they offered" discrepancy isn't significantly worse is that they barely even recruit the state of Oregon and we don't offer the national blue chip guys they do. This is nonsense. And BTW Luke Musgrave is the answer. And Seamalu? FFS, he lived in Corvallis and his dad Joe was on our coaching staff. Quite the coup landing him! Oregon recruited Patrick Herbert (Justin's younger brother) at tight end instead. The Ducks already had Herbert lined up and offered Musgrave one day before Musgrave committed to the Beavs. The two were the 1-2/2-1 best tight ends in Oregon in 2018. Exactly. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 1, 2024 19:55:44 GMT -8
His son was a train wreck at UCLA. Not by a long shot!! Not according to UCLA comparables. Bob Toledo, Karl Dorrell, Norm Chow, even Chipster! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 1, 2024 19:57:36 GMT -8
Marcus Wheaton?
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