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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 2, 2024 11:57:09 GMT -8
Now that the schedule is out for the 2025 Sanderson Ford 'Classic', I think there is some positive news to report. The field is considerably stronger in 2025 than in 2024. I acknowledge that final RPI from a previous season is a flawed yardstick, but since 2025 rankings aren't available, previous season records may be the best tool available to make comparisons. In 2024, Surprise had teams with final 2023 RPI's of: 34, 210, 253, and 297. In 2025, Surprise includes teams with final 2024 RPI's of: 13, 44, 55, and 231... ...and it's Xavier (RPI 44 in 2024) that the Beavers get two games against. Xavier has averaged 34 wins over the last 3 seasons But wait, I thought our schedule was total dog crap?! The home schedule is total dog crap.......the rest of it is not bad. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 2, 2024 12:05:25 GMT -8
But wait, I thought our schedule was total dog crap?! The home schedule is total dog crap.......the rest of it is not bad. Yea, thats not debatable.....as a season ticket holder, I'm obviously bummed. It sucks that our baseball program is having to endure this BS. The program deserves better.... unfortunately, college baseball doesn't move the needle much...hopefully when the dust settles, the program is still relevant, and strong. I hope Beaver Nation is willing to hang in there, support, and look toward the other side of this bulls%#t. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 2, 2024 17:13:52 GMT -8
The home schedule is total dog crap.......the rest of it is not bad. Yea, thats not debatable.....as a season ticket holder, I'm obviously bummed. It sucks that our baseball program is having to endure this BS. The program deserves better.... unfortunately, college baseball doesn't move the needle much...hopefully when the dust settles, the program is still relevant, and strong. I hope Beaver Nation is willing to hang in there, support, and look toward the other side of this bulls%#t. I doubt Goss will be vacant any decade soon. We have been trying to get 5 tickets together for less than $100 for 2 years straight lol |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 2, 2024 20:16:41 GMT -8
Yea, thats not debatable.....as a season ticket holder, I'm obviously bummed. It sucks that our baseball program is having to endure this BS. The program deserves better.... unfortunately, college baseball doesn't move the needle much...hopefully when the dust settles, the program is still relevant, and strong. I hope Beaver Nation is willing to hang in there, support, and look toward the other side of this bulls%#t. I doubt Goss will be vacant any decade soon. We have been trying to get 5 tickets together for less than $100 for 2 years straight lol Getting to the top is hard, especially for a cold, wet climate baseball program. Some talking heads in college athletics would say the rise of OSU baseball is the most impressive rise of any program, ever. Staying on top is no guarantee. I do think that our current coaching staff, and track record of getting guys drafted, bodes well for continuing to attract high level talent. But, it's still a cold, wet climate. If we lose ground, it's harder for us to gain it back, vs say an ASU. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2024 21:09:35 GMT -8
But wait, I thought our schedule was total dog crap?! The home schedule is total dog crap.......the rest of it is not bad. A not-so-fun fact: 2025 has the fewest games on the schedule at Goss since 1999. On the other hand: Top 13 teams at Goss based on 2024 RPI: 2024: 1. Oregon 40
2. Oregon 40
3. Oregon 40
4. Portland 57
5. Arizona State 86
6. Arizona State 86
7. Arizona State 86
8. Northridge 94
9. Northridge 94
10. Northridge 94
11. Northridge 94
12. Stanford 157
13. Stanford 157
2025:
1. San Diego 22
2. San Diego 22
3. San Diego 22
4. Irvine 25
5. Irvine 25
6. Irvine 25
7. Oregon 40
8. Portland 57
9. Portland 57
10. Rutgers 77
11. Grand Canyon 93
12. Grand Canyon 93
13. Grand Canyon 93
Quality over quantity. The top 13 games in 2025 are set to be much better than the top 13 games in 2024. The best three weekend series in 2025 are set to be better than the best three weekend series in 2024. Eight midweek games in Corvallis in 2025 compared to three in 2024.
Oregon State seems to have 86ed most of the chaff and added even more wheat in 2025. If you enjoyed those 19-7, 10-0, and 13-7 RPI-destroying beatdowns, this schedule is probably not for you.
But this is a much better Goss schedule quality-wise than the past two years.
I do not understand a lot of the angst over the schedule, especially with how just awful the Goss schedules have been the past two years. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 2, 2024 22:24:05 GMT -8
Not sure why folks continue to think RPI is an indicator of the quality of a team. 75% of the value is how opponents perform. Use of RPI has been a complaint on this board every season. It's been stated multiple times here how it's misleading.
SOS makes up 75% of the RPI calculation. Those RPI #s listed are also not this season's teams. Thus using them to compare to teams in 2024 is totally invalid.
But, why cherry picking "top 13" for 2025? Oh I see...
WSU... 194 x 2
Zags... 171 x 2
LBSt... 186 x 3
Anyway, bottom line 24-2 at home regular season with 15 of those Pac12 games (even a bad Pac12) make 2024 a far more difficult schedule.
Side note... perfect example of RPI vs SOS influence... take San Diego:
41-15... 31-2 vs Q3 & Q4 teams
RPI 22
SOS 86 NC SOS 8
13 games (3-10) vs Q1 teams
10 games (7-3) vs Q2 teams
RPI boost from Q1/Q2 opponents
& their opponents, even though pretty weak conference & NC games.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 3, 2024 20:51:52 GMT -8
Not sure why folks continue to think RPI is an indicator of the quality of a team. 75% of the value is how opponents perform. Use of RPI has been a complaint on this board every season. It's been stated multiple times here how it's misleading. SOS makes up 75% of the RPI calculation. Those RPI #s listed are also not this season's teams. Thus using them to compare to teams in 2024 is totally invalid. But, why cherry picking "top 13" for 2025? Oh I see... WSU... 194 x 2 Zags... 171 x 2 LBSt... 186 x 3 Anyway, bottom line 24-2 at home regular season with 15 of those Pac12 games (even a bad Pac12) make 2024 a far more difficult schedule. Side note... perfect example of RPI vs SOS influence... take San Diego: 41-15... 31-2 vs Q3 & Q4 teams RPI 22 SOS 86 NC SOS 8 13 games (3-10) vs Q1 teams 10 games (7-3) vs Q2 teams RPI boost from Q1/Q2 opponents & their opponents, even though pretty weak conference & NC games. I think phrasing it as RPI boosters instead of anchors would be better. That said it's hard to calculate RPI with zero data. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 3, 2024 21:08:07 GMT -8
Not sure why folks continue to think RPI is an indicator of the quality of a team. 75% of the value is how opponents perform. Use of RPI has been a complaint on this board every season. It's been stated multiple times here how it's misleading. SOS makes up 75% of the RPI calculation. Those RPI #s listed are also not this season's teams. Thus using them to compare to teams in 2024 is totally invalid. But, why cherry picking "top 13" for 2025? Oh I see... WSU... 194 x 2 Zags... 171 x 2 LBSt... 186 x 3 Anyway, bottom line 24-2 at home regular season with 15 of those Pac12 games (even a bad Pac12) make 2024 a far more difficult schedule. Side note... perfect example of RPI vs SOS influence... take San Diego: 41-15... 31-2 vs Q3 & Q4 teams RPI 22 SOS 86 NC SOS 8 13 games (3-10) vs Q1 teams 10 games (7-3) vs Q2 teams RPI boost from Q1/Q2 opponents & their opponents, even though pretty weak conference & NC games. I think phrasing it as RPI boosters instead of anchors would be better. That said it's hard to calculate RPI with zero data. I'm just not sure OSU won't get "dinged" for being indy. There's just not many OMG wins there. But, plenty of "oh eff" potential losses. With no auto bid, conference tourney as backup. Just don't trust the selection committee. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 4, 2024 6:14:29 GMT -8
I think phrasing it as RPI boosters instead of anchors would be better. That said it's hard to calculate RPI with zero data. I'm just not sure OSU won't get "dinged" for being indy. There's just not many OMG wins there. But, plenty of "oh eff" potential losses. With no auto bid, conference tourney as backup. Just don't trust the selection committee. The way RPI has worked lately pretty much the SEC and a few ACC schools are the only omg wins available. Playing their punching bags like Xavier is a better RPI move than most BIG10, B12 and former P12 teams now. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 4, 2024 10:11:50 GMT -8
I'm just not sure OSU won't get "dinged" for being indy. There's just not many OMG wins there. But, plenty of "oh eff" potential losses. With no auto bid, conference tourney as backup. Just don't trust the selection committee. The way RPI has worked lately pretty much the SEC and a few ACC schools are the only omg wins available. Playing their punching bags like Xavier is a better RPI move than most BIG10, B12 and former P12 teams now. The schedule will give equal opportunity for this team to be a national seed, or fall flat on their faces, and everything in between. These guys will have to figure out how to be better on the road. |
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