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Post by Bodhisattva on Jul 25, 2024 8:31:05 GMT -8
Quite a change from the 11.7 to 34. This might keep more kids going straight to pros possibly. Also will allow the wealthier schools to stockpile better players. Not sure how I feel about it. Scholarship increases across all sports |
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Post by tamatrix on Jul 25, 2024 9:50:54 GMT -8
40 to 34 releases 6 players from every SEC/ACC team, it's a good thing for mid-major programs (not saying we are in that group).
If we can push for donations related to schollies (which are tax deductible for the donor), then I don't think it will be much of an issue for baseball for us...
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 25, 2024 11:01:49 GMT -8
40 to 34 releases 6 players from every SEC/ACC team, it's a good thing for mid-major programs (not saying we are in that group). If we can push for donations related to schollies (which are tax deductible for the donor), then I don't think it will be much of an issue for baseball for us... It doesn't "release" 6 scholly players. Every school only had 11.7 to divvy up. Roster limit reduction helps, but not when combined with those teams now able to give out full rides. Before there was equal... roster size and schollies. Now SEC/ACC teams may have a smaller roster, but they now can attract 22 better players to full rides than the tail end roster guys that were not getting any money. OSU... barely raised $125k for baseball NIL this past year and that was due to (2) major donations that made up 80% of it. There is no world OSU comes up with academic based money for 10+ extra baseball schollies annually, let alone 20+. As it means Title IX kicks in for equal opportunities. So, even (10) new for men means (20). If NIL $ raised was a so far, one time $125k, do you think there is that much out there for schollies? Serious question... The scholarship increases were expected as money for the "rich" increased as they will have the $ to add scholarships as needed to each and every sport chosen. Since it is not mandatory, the "poor" will have to live off what they always have. No matter how much we complain, the goal was to advance the idea of a super conference based on TV revenue money. The eventual outcome is unknown, but many school in P4 conferences will end up like OSU/WSU. They can't afford to keep up (in multiple aspects), in many cases can't afford to drop sports to stay D1, and will have to begin cutting staff allocations, etc. JS leaving was a symptom of what is to come. OSU and many others will eventually become to the "rich" what FCS schools are to FBS schools. Even a reverse merger, rebuild the Pac, or an addition to a P4 conference will not change the inevitability of a richer, entitled set of schools and the "rest". How it eventually pans out is unknown, but the lower tier P4 schools will eventually also not be able to keep pace. And, those entitled few will get tired of sharing the wealth. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Jul 25, 2024 11:34:24 GMT -8
40 to 34 releases 6 players from every SEC/ACC team, it's a good thing for mid-major programs (not saying we are in that group). If we can push for donations related to schollies (which are tax deductible for the donor), then I don't think it will be much of an issue for baseball for us... It doesn't "release" 6 scholly players. Every school only had 11.7 to divvy up. Roster limit reduction helps, but not when combined with those teams now able to give out full rides. Before there was equal... roster size and schollies. Now SEC/ACC teams may have a smaller roster, but they now can attract 22 better players to full rides than the tail end roster guys that were not getting any money. OSU... barely raised $125k for baseball NIL this past year and that was due to (2) major donations that made up 80% of it. There is no world OSU comes up with academic based money for 10+ extra baseball schollies annually, let alone 20+. As it means Title IX kicks in for equal opportunities. So, even (10) new for men means (20). If NIL $ raised was a so far, one time $125k, do you think there is that much out there for schollies? Serious question... The scholarship increases were expected as money for the "rich" increased as they will have the $ to add scholarships as needed to each and every sport chosen. Since it is not mandatory, the "poor" will have to live off what they always have. No matter how much we complain, the goal was to advance the idea of a super conference based on TV revenue money. The eventual outcome is unknown, but many school in P4 conferences will end up like OSU/WSU. They can't afford to keep up (in multiple aspects), in many cases can't afford to drop sports to stay D1, and will have to begin cutting staff allocations, etc. JS leaving was a symptom of what is to come. OSU and many others will eventually become to the "rich" what FCS schools are to FBS schools. Even a reverse merger, rebuild the Pac, or an addition to a P4 conference will not change the inevitability of a richer, entitled set of schools and the "rest". How it eventually pans out is unknown, but the lower tier P4 schools will eventually also not be able to keep pace. And, those entitled few will get tired of sharing the wealth. Reminds me of the nuclear arms race in the 80's. The spending that USSR couldn't keep up with. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 25, 2024 13:03:55 GMT -8
It doesn't "release" 6 scholly players. Every school only had 11.7 to divvy up. Roster limit reduction helps, but not when combined with those teams now able to give out full rides. Before there was equal... roster size and schollies. Now SEC/ACC teams may have a smaller roster, but they now can attract 22 better players to full rides than the tail end roster guys that were not getting any money. OSU... barely raised $125k for baseball NIL this past year and that was due to (2) major donations that made up 80% of it. There is no world OSU comes up with academic based money for 10+ extra baseball schollies annually, let alone 20+. As it means Title IX kicks in for equal opportunities. So, even (10) new for men means (20). If NIL $ raised was a so far, one time $125k, do you think there is that much out there for schollies? Serious question... The scholarship increases were expected as money for the "rich" increased as they will have the $ to add scholarships as needed to each and every sport chosen. Since it is not mandatory, the "poor" will have to live off what they always have. No matter how much we complain, the goal was to advance the idea of a super conference based on TV revenue money. The eventual outcome is unknown, but many school in P4 conferences will end up like OSU/WSU. They can't afford to keep up (in multiple aspects), in many cases can't afford to drop sports to stay D1, and will have to begin cutting staff allocations, etc. JS leaving was a symptom of what is to come. OSU and many others will eventually become to the "rich" what FCS schools are to FBS schools. Even a reverse merger, rebuild the Pac, or an addition to a P4 conference will not change the inevitability of a richer, entitled set of schools and the "rest". How it eventually pans out is unknown, but the lower tier P4 schools will eventually also not be able to keep pace. And, those entitled few will get tired of sharing the wealth. Reminds me of the nuclear arms race in the 80's. The spending that USSR couldn't keep up with. Thing that bugs me is football. The Alabama’s, Ohio State’s, LSU’s and USC’s of the world and others close to that level don’t need to tie up 105 scholarships. That can’t be good for parity, especially if you’re not a power conference school. |
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Post by tamatrix on Jul 25, 2024 15:32:20 GMT -8
40 to 34 releases 6 players from every SEC/ACC team, it's a good thing for mid-major programs (not saying we are in that group). If we can push for donations related to schollies (which are tax deductible for the donor), then I don't think it will be much of an issue for baseball for us... It doesn't "release" 6 scholly players. Every school only had 11.7 to divvy up. Roster limit reduction helps, but not when combined with those teams now able to give out full rides. Before there was equal... roster size and schollies. Now SEC/ACC teams may have a smaller roster, but they now can attract 22 better players to full rides than the tail end roster guys that were not getting any money. OSU... barely raised $125k for baseball NIL this past year and that was due to (2) major donations that made up 80% of it. There is no world OSU comes up with academic based money for 10+ extra baseball schollies annually, let alone 20+. As it means Title IX kicks in for equal opportunities. So, even (10) new for men means (20). If NIL $ raised was a so far, one time $125k, do you think there is that much out there for schollies? Serious question... The scholarship increases were expected as money for the "rich" increased as they will have the $ to add scholarships as needed to each and every sport chosen. Since it is not mandatory, the "poor" will have to live off what they always have. No matter how much we complain, the goal was to advance the idea of a super conference based on TV revenue money. The eventual outcome is unknown, but many school in P4 conferences will end up like OSU/WSU. They can't afford to keep up (in multiple aspects), in many cases can't afford to drop sports to stay D1, and will have to begin cutting staff allocations, etc. JS leaving was a symptom of what is to come. OSU and many others will eventually become to the "rich" what FCS schools are to FBS schools. Even a reverse merger, rebuild the Pac, or an addition to a P4 conference will not change the inevitability of a richer, entitled set of schools and the "rest". How it eventually pans out is unknown, but the lower tier P4 schools will eventually also not be able to keep pace. And, those entitled few will get tired of sharing the wealth. Yes, I know it doesn't release 6 scholly players, but you are telling me you don't think the bottom 6 players on LSU aren't all likely starters at mid-majors?  |
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 25, 2024 16:14:22 GMT -8
It doesn't "release" 6 scholly players. Every school only had 11.7 to divvy up. Roster limit reduction helps, but not when combined with those teams now able to give out full rides. Before there was equal... roster size and schollies. Now SEC/ACC teams may have a smaller roster, but they now can attract 22 better players to full rides than the tail end roster guys that were not getting any money. OSU... barely raised $125k for baseball NIL this past year and that was due to (2) major donations that made up 80% of it. There is no world OSU comes up with academic based money for 10+ extra baseball schollies annually, let alone 20+. As it means Title IX kicks in for equal opportunities. So, even (10) new for men means (20). If NIL $ raised was a so far, one time $125k, do you think there is that much out there for schollies? Serious question... The scholarship increases were expected as money for the "rich" increased as they will have the $ to add scholarships as needed to each and every sport chosen. Since it is not mandatory, the "poor" will have to live off what they always have. No matter how much we complain, the goal was to advance the idea of a super conference based on TV revenue money. The eventual outcome is unknown, but many school in P4 conferences will end up like OSU/WSU. They can't afford to keep up (in multiple aspects), in many cases can't afford to drop sports to stay D1, and will have to begin cutting staff allocations, etc. JS leaving was a symptom of what is to come. OSU and many others will eventually become to the "rich" what FCS schools are to FBS schools. Even a reverse merger, rebuild the Pac, or an addition to a P4 conference will not change the inevitability of a richer, entitled set of schools and the "rest". How it eventually pans out is unknown, but the lower tier P4 schools will eventually also not be able to keep pace. And, those entitled few will get tired of sharing the wealth. Yes, I know it doesn't release 6 scholly players, but you are telling me you don't think the bottom 6 players on LSU aren't all likely starters at mid-majors? They are but they'll matriculate to another school that offers a full ride. |
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