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Post by oldbeav on Jul 11, 2024 16:03:32 GMT -8
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Post by osbrawler on Jul 11, 2024 18:57:31 GMT -8
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 12, 2024 5:27:55 GMT -8
Attao had a big boy throw too; showed off some serious strength and ability
I'm hoping he's a little smaller but much more athletic Cohlton Schultz - perennial AA threat
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jul 12, 2024 7:05:41 GMT -8
Attao had a big boy throw too; showed off some serious strength and ability I'm hoping he's a little smaller but much more athletic Cohlton Schultz - perennial AA threat I like OSU wreatling so much more when we have a good HW's. Not saying we've been bad lately, just that I'm excited to see this kid wrestle.
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 12, 2024 7:13:22 GMT -8
The last two (Traub and McDermott is who I mean unless I'm missing someone) have been "gatekeeper" in quality in my opinion; they'll beat a non-AA most times but struggle to break through against the top tier and onto the podium. Boone had a rough NCAAs but appeared to get hurt in first match and limped out. I agree though; it'll be really nice to have a more high end closer per say.
Attao is pretty short for his weight; hopefully that doesn't give him too much issue against other wrestlers length but I've got high hopes
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Post by idaho on Jul 13, 2024 9:58:32 GMT -8
Aden is about 6 foot and comes in around 265 give or take. He has competed well in freestyle against taller guys like Hopke, Keuter, etc. I am hoping that against longer guys he will neutralize them with his greco positioning. The kid is much stronger than he looks as well. He is the US rep for U20 (Sept) and U23 (Oct) - which I haven't heard if he is doing both. Either way, he will get a little bit of a late start to the season in terms of transitioning to Folk. Excited to see how he competes at the D1 level. We may see him and Keuter in November - Keuter won a 10-9 match at the US Open this year in freestyle.
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Post by ag87 on Jul 13, 2024 10:23:17 GMT -8
For you guys that have actual knowledge and follow wrestling, how do you think he will do as a freshman? Is it realistic to think he may be an AA? Or should I just hope for a ranking somewhere in the 20's?
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 14, 2024 1:41:26 GMT -8
For you guys that have actual knowledge and follow wrestling, how do you think he will do as a freshman? Is it realistic to think he may be an AA? Or should I just hope for a ranking somewhere in the 20's? Heavyweight this upcoming year could return 6 of the 8 AA's last year (Elam of Mizzou and Davidson of Michigan are out of eligibility); I would speculate that Kerkvliet (Penn St), Hendrickson (Okie St formerly from Air Force), and a healthy Bastida (Iowa St; not an AA but was the 2 seed) are simply going to be in a totally different tier than Attao. Feldman (tOSU) made some pretty big jumps during his freshman year last year and Schultz (Arizona St) is just a really big boy who made the Greco Finals at Oly Trials. Trumble (NC St) redshirted last year and I think would be a terrible matchup for Attao stylistically. Ghadiali (Campbell) is the last AA and he's good but I don't think he's unbeatable. Keuter fully devoting his time to wrestling could also be notable. Those 6 in the first paragraph, are in my opinion, the only ones in the field who I think are likely locks to finish ahead of Attao (unless HEW affects the guys in their Covid year - I think Schultz is the most likely to be affected by this). I think AA hopes are realistic but would be somewhat draw dependent; I can see him losing to one of the big dogs in the quarters and then it'll all depend on who he catches in the bloodround. That's my thoughts at least
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 14, 2024 1:43:30 GMT -8
Aden is about 6 foot and comes in around 265 give or take. He has competed well in freestyle against taller guys like Hopke, Keuter, etc. I am hoping that against longer guys he will neutralize them with his greco positioning. The kid is much stronger than he looks as well. He is the US rep for U20 (Sept) and U23 (Oct) - which I haven't heard if he is doing both. Either way, he will get a little bit of a late start to the season in terms of transitioning to Folk. Excited to see how he competes at the D1 level. We may see him and Keuter in November - Keuter won a 10-9 match at the US Open this year in freestyle. I think I saw that he officially accepted his U23 bid from a USA Wrestling announcement; I can't recall seeing an official U20 announcement but may have missed it
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 14, 2024 1:56:51 GMT -8
For you guys that have actual knowledge and follow wrestling, how do you think he will do as a freshman? Is it realistic to think he may be an AA? Or should I just hope for a ranking somewhere in the 20's? Heavyweight this upcoming year could return 6 of the 8 AA's last year (Elam of Mizzou and Davidson of Michigan are out of eligibility); I would speculate that Kerkvliet (Penn St), Hendrickson (Okie St formerly from Air Force), and a healthy Bastida (Iowa St; not an AA but was the 2 seed) are simply going to be in a totally different tier than Attao. Feldman (tOSU) made some pretty big jumps during his freshman year last year and Schultz (Arizona St) is just a really big boy who made the Greco Finals at Oly Trials. Trumble (NC St) redshirted last year and I think would be a terrible matchup for Attao stylistically. Ghadiali (Campbell) is the last AA and he's good but I don't think he's unbeatable. Keuter fully devoting his time to wrestling could also be notable. Those 6 in the first paragraph, are in my opinion, the only ones in the field who I think are likely locks to finish ahead of Attao (unless HEW affects the guys in their Covid year - I think Schultz is the most likely to be affected by this). I think AA hopes are realistic but would be somewhat draw dependent; I can see him losing to one of the big dogs in the quarters and then it'll all depend on who he catches in the bloodround. That's my thoughts at least I forgot Slavikouski (Rutgers) as an AA and I would lump him in w/ Ghadiali. Kerkvliet, Hendrickson, Bastida, Schultz, Slavikouski, and Ghadiali all will use their last year of eligibility this upcoming season so it could really open up for Attao after this year.
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idaho
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Post by idaho on Jul 20, 2024 10:17:01 GMT -8
For you guys that have actual knowledge and follow wrestling, how do you think he will do as a freshman? Is it realistic to think he may be an AA? Or should I just hope for a ranking somewhere in the 20's? Aden will get a little bit of a late start into the folk season. He has wrestled some pretty big HS folk tournaments and done very well, but he has not seen that competition consistently though high school and the last year he has focused on Greco. I expect a typical freshman early season struggle, however I see him hitting his stride later in the season and qualifying for the NCAA. As scottishsteel mentioned, the heavyweight class is pretty tough 1-6 and then has another tier of guys that are pretty tough as well.
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idaho
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Post by idaho on Jul 20, 2024 10:28:29 GMT -8
For you guys that have actual knowledge and follow wrestling, how do you think he will do as a freshman? Is it realistic to think he may be an AA? Or should I just hope for a ranking somewhere in the 20's? Heavyweight this upcoming year could return 6 of the 8 AA's last year (Elam of Mizzou and Davidson of Michigan are out of eligibility); I would speculate that Kerkvliet (Penn St), Hendrickson (Okie St formerly from Air Force), and a healthy Bastida (Iowa St; not an AA but was the 2 seed) are simply going to be in a totally different tier than Attao. Feldman (tOSU) made some pretty big jumps during his freshman year last year and Schultz (Arizona St) is just a really big boy who made the Greco Finals at Oly Trials. Trumble (NC St) redshirted last year and I think would be a terrible matchup for Attao stylistically. Ghadiali (Campbell) is the last AA and he's good but I don't think he's unbeatable. Keuter fully devoting his time to wrestling could also be notable. Those 6 in the first paragraph, are in my opinion, the only ones in the field who I think are likely locks to finish ahead of Attao (unless HEW affects the guys in their Covid year - I think Schultz is the most likely to be affected by this). I think AA hopes are realistic but would be somewhat draw dependent; I can see him losing to one of the big dogs in the quarters and then it'll all depend on who he catches in the bloodround. That's my thoughts at least R12 guys Heindselman and Taylor also return. Braxton Amos also heading up to HWT. From top to bottom, HWT will be tough.
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 21, 2024 1:38:20 GMT -8
Heavyweight this upcoming year could return 6 of the 8 AA's last year (Elam of Mizzou and Davidson of Michigan are out of eligibility); I would speculate that Kerkvliet (Penn St), Hendrickson (Okie St formerly from Air Force), and a healthy Bastida (Iowa St; not an AA but was the 2 seed) are simply going to be in a totally different tier than Attao. Feldman (tOSU) made some pretty big jumps during his freshman year last year and Schultz (Arizona St) is just a really big boy who made the Greco Finals at Oly Trials. Trumble (NC St) redshirted last year and I think would be a terrible matchup for Attao stylistically. Ghadiali (Campbell) is the last AA and he's good but I don't think he's unbeatable. Keuter fully devoting his time to wrestling could also be notable. Those 6 in the first paragraph, are in my opinion, the only ones in the field who I think are likely locks to finish ahead of Attao (unless HEW affects the guys in their Covid year - I think Schultz is the most likely to be affected by this). I think AA hopes are realistic but would be somewhat draw dependent; I can see him losing to one of the big dogs in the quarters and then it'll all depend on who he catches in the bloodround. That's my thoughts at least R12 guys Heindselman and Taylor also return. Braxton Amos also heading up to HWT. From top to bottom, HWT will be tough. I know Amos had all the high school accolades but he's done next to nothing at the collegiate level (albeit at a weight he never should have gone) and I'm really not worried about him - but I'm pretty anti-Bono as a coach/developer so there's probably some bias clouding my thoughts too
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