bill82
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Post by bill82 on Jun 26, 2024 18:20:15 GMT -8
When I attended (78-82) many athletes lived in the dorms, played pick-up games at Dixon, and participated on intramural teams with dormmates. We non-athletes attended different sporting events to support our dormmates. I get a sense from reading various articles that student-athletes are more isolated from the general student body these days (separate housing, online classes, cafeterias etc,). Is this the case, or am I reading too much into the articles I've seen?
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Post by oldbeav on Jun 27, 2024 7:52:03 GMT -8
From talking to baseball players’ parents over the years, I believe they all live off campus, even as freshman. Groups of them will rent a house together.
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Post by orangeattack on Jun 27, 2024 10:50:08 GMT -8
When I attended (78-82) many athletes lived in the dorms, played pick-up games at Dixon, and participated on intramural teams with dormmates. We non-athletes attended different sporting events to support our dormmates. I get a sense from reading various articles that student-athletes are more isolated from the general student body these days (separate housing, online classes, cafeterias etc,). Is this the case, or am I reading too much into the articles I've seen? I believe that in general this is just a reflection of society at large, and how isolated we are becoming socially due to the smartphone interface. If you walk into a high school cafeteria these days, you'll be amazed at how quiet they are compared to what they were like 20-30 years ago prior to social media. The constant din of people socializing is squelched to a whisper. Every head is bent over looking at a phone. Even looking at how we interact in public with each other, the tech simultaneously has us more connected socially with our acquaintances but far less connected with strangers. I travel for work, a lot. 10 years ago looked a lot different than it does these days, it was not uncommon to strike up a conversation with a stranger. This is a pretty rare occurrence on an airplane anymore, people get on the plane put on their noise canceling headphones and have broadband internet the entire flight. The only place people still chat face to face much is in a bar. |
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Post by ftd on Jun 27, 2024 12:17:23 GMT -8
When I attended (78-82) many athletes lived in the dorms, played pick-up games at Dixon, and participated on intramural teams with dormmates. We non-athletes attended different sporting events to support our dormmates. I get a sense from reading various articles that student-athletes are more isolated from the general student body these days (separate housing, online classes, cafeterias etc,). Is this the case, or am I reading too much into the articles I've seen? I believe that in general this is just a reflection of society at large, and how isolated we are becoming socially due to the smartphone interface. If you walk into a high school cafeteria these days, you'll be amazed at how quiet they are compared to what they were like 20-30 years ago prior to social media. The constant din of people socializing is squelched to a whisper. Every head is bent over looking at a phone. Even looking at how we interact in public with each other, the tech simultaneously has us more connected socially with our acquaintances but far less connected with strangers. I travel for work, a lot. 10 years ago looked a lot different than it does these days, it was not uncommon to strike up a conversation with a stranger. This is a pretty rare occurrence on an airplane anymore, people get on the plane put on their noise canceling headphones and have broadband internet the entire flight. The only place people still chat face to face much is in a bar. I attended 9 tapings of The Price is Right (5 if Feb, 4 in June). It is really a unique environment. In the waiting area (a church choir room) people have their phones but there is tons of talking to other/strangers. Phones are taken prior to entering the studio so for 90 minutes or so there are 175+ people no staring at the almighty phone. Also in the studio everybody pulls for everybody else. The crowd is often diverse in terms of age (ok nobody under 18), gender, race, etc. You don't find that kind of 'we win' vs 'I win and you lose' much anywhere else. |
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Post by ftd on Jun 27, 2024 12:43:24 GMT -8
When I attended (78-82) many athletes lived in the dorms, played pick-up games at Dixon, and participated on intramural teams with dormmates. We non-athletes attended different sporting events to support our dormmates. I get a sense from reading various articles that student-athletes are more isolated from the general student body these days (separate housing, online classes, cafeterias etc,). Is this the case, or am I reading too much into the articles I've seen? I believe that in general this is just a reflection of society at large, and how isolated we are becoming socially due to the smartphone interface. If you walk into a high school cafeteria these days, you'll be amazed at how quiet they are compared to what they were like 20-30 years ago prior to social media. The constant din of people socializing is squelched to a whisper. Every head is bent over looking at a phone. Even looking at how we interact in public with each other, the tech simultaneously has us more connected socially with our acquaintances but far less connected with strangers. I travel for work, a lot. 10 years ago looked a lot different than it does these days, it was not uncommon to strike up a conversation with a stranger. This is a pretty rare occurrence on an airplane anymore, people get on the plane put on their noise canceling headphones and have broadband internet the entire flight. The only place people still chat face to face much is in a bar.  |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 27, 2024 17:13:27 GMT -8
From talking to baseball players’ parents over the years, I believe they all live off campus, even as freshman. Groups of them will rent a house together. They have to live on campus their first year, but after that they typically all room together. Also, they take all their classes online, so there is little interaction with the general student population. |
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Post by p8nted on Jun 27, 2024 19:42:30 GMT -8
From talking to baseball players’ parents over the years, I believe they all live off campus, even as freshman. Groups of them will rent a house together. They have to live on campus their first year, but after that they typically all room together. Also, they take all their classes online, so there is little interaction with the general student population. Interesting as not all majors can be done completely online |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 27, 2024 20:00:38 GMT -8
Having athletes from some sports funneled into nothing but online classes is essentially eliminating part of their college experience, their interaction with professors and other non-athlete students. It enables athletic department officials to justify taking long road trips that have the athletes out of town and off-campus for a week or more at a time.
It's not good (IMHO). Some may thrive with only online classes, and I think there is a limited place for it in higher education. I also think the pandemic illustrated that most don't.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 28, 2024 3:51:02 GMT -8
Having athletes from some sports funneled into nothing but online classes is essentially eliminating part of their college experience, their interaction with professors and other non-athlete students. It enables athletic department officials to justify taking long road trips that have the athletes out of town and off-campus for a week or more at a time. It's not good (IMHO). Some may thrive with only online classes, and I think there is a limited place for it in higher education. I also think the pandemic illustrated that most don't. Totally agree. My son is transferring into OSU in the fall and went through orientation yesterday. I highly encouraged him to register for only in-person classes, which he did. Not only does he do better in in-person classes, but I think it’s a vital part of the college experience. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 28, 2024 8:42:08 GMT -8
Having athletes from some sports funneled into nothing but online classes is essentially eliminating part of their college experience, their interaction with professors and other non-athlete students. It enables athletic department officials to justify taking long road trips that have the athletes out of town and off-campus for a week or more at a time. It's not good (IMHO). Some may thrive with only online classes, and I think there is a limited place for it in higher education. I also think the pandemic illustrated that most don't. Totally agree. My son is transferring into OSU in the fall and went through orientation yesterday. I highly encouraged him to register for only in-person classes, which he did. Not only does he do better in in-person classes, but I think it’s a vital part of the college experience. Congrats, he chose wisely. Our child is an OSU graduate, before the pandemic. In grad school he had about 15 months of onliine classes only, which was handled and tolerated but not enjoyed. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 28, 2024 9:17:07 GMT -8
Having athletes from some sports funneled into nothing but online classes is essentially eliminating part of their college experience, their interaction with professors and other non-athlete students. It enables athletic department officials to justify taking long road trips that have the athletes out of town and off-campus for a week or more at a time. It's not good (IMHO). Some may thrive with only online classes, and I think there is a limited place for it in higher education. I also think the pandemic illustrated that most don't. Not specific to OSU, but in my experience with former players the same at various levels of post high school play. Not only the above mentioned info, but many players are funneled into certain majors that "allow" most or all courses be online. Add, for to Fall ball and in-season time constraints course hours are often limited to "full-time"/12 hrs if any classes are to be in person. At some schools even those hours are subject to required courses in Phys Ed... basically baseball workouts. Without loading up in off terms & summer it's almost impossible to complete a degree in 4 years. Athletes in the last decade are much more an extended high school "click" than a college student. It's actually quite sad to think of how much of the college experience they miss. But, it does vary by school. Some stress having athletes very integrated into the entire experience. |
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