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Post by irimi on Jul 5, 2024 16:54:03 GMT -8
For all those beaver fans that cry in their beer telling everyone how the ducks are going to kick our butts. They just might. On the other hand it sure would be nice to be sitting in reser and let the duck fans know that there will be no natty for them. We all saw Anderpants lead a Beaver team to a much celebrated win against the Ducks. Every Beaver fan knows that what you say is possible, so skipping the game for fear of being defeated is ridiculous. Given our particular pedigree as Beaver fans, I think I would be hard pressed to find a real Beaver fan who says we can't beat the Ducks. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 5, 2024 18:08:48 GMT -8
For all those beaver fans that cry in their beer telling everyone how the ducks are going to kick our butts. They just might. On the other hand it sure would be nice to be sitting in reser and let the duck fans know that there will be no natty for them. We all saw Anderpants lead a Beaver team to a much celebrated win against the Ducks. Every Beaver fan knows that what you say is possible, so skipping the game for fear of being defeated is ridiculous. Given our particular pedigree as Beaver fans, I think I would be hard pressed to find a real Beaver fan who says we can't beat the Ducks. Perfect take. Add... there is no moral or integrity issue with wanting to make $ from a game as was posited by an earlier post. OSU isn't getting "rich" or sinking to some unscrupulous level of corporate greed playing Oregon. By playing an opponent that brings in dollars and lessens expenses helps the entire AD and every athlete involved. |
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Post by darthbeavs on Jul 11, 2024 8:41:38 GMT -8
We all saw Anderpants lead a Beaver team to a much celebrated win against the Ducks. Every Beaver fan knows that what you say is possible, so skipping the game for fear of being defeated is ridiculous. Given our particular pedigree as Beaver fans, I think I would be hard pressed to find a real Beaver fan who says we can't beat the Ducks. Perfect take. Add... there is no moral or integrity issue with wanting to make $ from a game as was posited by an earlier post. OSU isn't getting "rich" or sinking to some unscrupulous level of corporate greed playing Oregon. By playing an opponent that brings in dollars and lessens expenses helps the entire AD and every athlete involved. Seems like the UO game can be replaced in the future with another game that will bring in the same amount of revenue. Sold out is sold out, not more sold out ... er? |
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 11, 2024 8:55:31 GMT -8
Perfect take. Add... there is no moral or integrity issue with wanting to make $ from a game as was posited by an earlier post. OSU isn't getting "rich" or sinking to some unscrupulous level of corporate greed playing Oregon. By playing an opponent that brings in dollars and lessens expenses helps the entire AD and every athlete involved. Seems like the UO game can be replaced in the future with another game that will bring in the same amount of revenue. Sold out is sold out, not more sold out ... er? 🤣Name the last non-Oregon game/team sellout. Now name the last NC game sellout. What NC teams that would actually come to a 38k seat Reser that would sell out?🤔 |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 11, 2024 10:54:59 GMT -8
The official seating capacity of Reser Stadium is 35,548, not 38,000. Announced attendance at every 2023 conference game exceeded 37K.
The announced attendance for both the UC Davis and SDSU home games last year exceeded capacity.
You can argue with the numbers all you want. But they are what they are.
I think there will be a significant Purdue representation at their game here this fall. Purdue graduates engineers and there are many Purdue alums in the region who will jump at the chance to see their team play a rare game on the West Coast.
There were a ton of Wisconsin and Minnesota fans at Reser when we played them. Big Ten schools are huge, twice to three times the size of OSU; their alumni diaspora is nationwide, and they also travel well.
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 11, 2024 11:27:40 GMT -8
The official seating capacity of Reser Stadium is 35,548, not 38,000. Announced attendance at every 2023 conference game exceeded 37K. The announced attendance for both the UC Davis and SDSU home games last year exceeded capacity. You can argue with the numbers all you want. But they are what they are. I think there will be a significant Purdue representation at their game here this fall. Purdue graduates engineers and there are many Purdue alums in the region who will jump at the chance to see their team play a rare game on the West Coast. There were a ton of Wisconsin and Minnesota fans at Reser when we played them. Big Ten schools are huge, twice to three times the size of OSU; their alumni diaspora is nationwide, and they also travel well. . Ahhh.... well actually official capacity is actually over 38k in the ticket office in that selling of SRO tix is counted in the possible ticket office sales allotment. Attendance is attendance, in seats or standing. And, the average NC visitor tix from OSU's ticket office averaged under 550 last season. Secondary market increases that, but there is no P4 team that will regularly visit Reser and draw more fans and $ than Oregon. Pretty simple concept. The OP stated another NC team could be substituted for Oregon and would sell out. Conflating past attendance in general while a P5 team vs stating another non-conference team will regularly come to Reser and sell out the stadium is invalid. Whether one is in favor of the CW being played having Oregon every 2 years (IF it happens??) is a guaranteed money maker/sellout. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 11, 2024 11:34:54 GMT -8
OSU says the official capacity is 35,548. Argue with them if you wish. osubeavers.com/facilities/reser-stadium/3And yes, no OOC team will draw as well as Oregon. Which is why I advocate playing them on an annual basis. |
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 12, 2024 5:52:03 GMT -8
The official seating capacity of Reser Stadium is 35,548, not 38,000. Announced attendance at every 2023 conference game exceeded 37K. The announced attendance for both the UC Davis and SDSU home games last year exceeded capacity. You can argue with the numbers all you want. But they are what they are. I think there will be a significant Purdue representation at their game here this fall. Purdue graduates engineers and there are many Purdue alums in the region who will jump at the chance to see their team play a rare game on the West Coast. There were a ton of Wisconsin and Minnesota fans at Reser when we played them. Big Ten schools are huge, twice to three times the size of OSU; their alumni diaspora is nationwide, and they also travel well. . Ahhh.... well actually official capacity is actually over 38k in the ticket office in that selling of SRO tix is counted in the possible ticket office sales allotment. Attendance is attendance, in seats or standing. And, the average NC visitor tix from OSU's ticket office averaged under 550 last season. Secondary market increases that, but there is no P4 team that will regularly visit Reser and draw more fans and $ than Oregon. Pretty simple concept. The OP stated another NC team could be substituted for Oregon and would sell out. Conflating past attendance in general while a P5 team vs stating another non-conference team will regularly come to Reser and sell out the stadium is invalid. Whether one is in favor of the CW being played having Oregon every 2 years (IF it happens??) is a guaranteed money maker/sellout. I'm not trying to get in the mud here and I'm only quoting you rgeorge as you had the last response about this but as someone who has worked in athletics in events/facility management for nearly two decades SOP for official capacity is based on # of seats. SRO is surplus and if a team is regularly going into their SRO's than they could actually average over 100% capacity (see below tweet from Penn St hockey as an example). Just figured I would throw that out there to potentially clear up some semantics issues because both sides can be correct; official capacity to determine a sellout and what Oregon St Athletics would use when they do the math is based on the # of seats and would be a lower number/metric than what Reser could actually hold but if you want to argue about what teams coming to Corvallis would bring in max revenue and bodies inside Reser than actual facility capacity is the higher number but that is not the "official" number. Now if you want to argue that the goal should always be max capacity in regards to as many people as possible inside the venue or if including SRO should be how you determine official capacity . . . well those are totally different conversations but across 3 different NCAA D1 conferences I've worked in, every school in all 3 conferences in every sport deems a "sellout" to be if all seats are sold regardless of if SRO is available/sold or if the ticketholder even redeem their ticket and is inside the venue. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 12, 2024 8:13:33 GMT -8
Ahhh.... well actually official capacity is actually over 38k in the ticket office in that selling of SRO tix is counted in the possible ticket office sales allotment. Attendance is attendance, in seats or standing. And, the average NC visitor tix from OSU's ticket office averaged under 550 last season. Secondary market increases that, but there is no P4 team that will regularly visit Reser and draw more fans and $ than Oregon. Pretty simple concept. The OP stated another NC team could be substituted for Oregon and would sell out. Conflating past attendance in general while a P5 team vs stating another non-conference team will regularly come to Reser and sell out the stadium is invalid. Whether one is in favor of the CW being played having Oregon every 2 years (IF it happens??) is a guaranteed money maker/sellout. I'm not trying to get in the mud here and I'm only quoting you rgeorge as you had the last response about this but as someone who has worked in athletics in events/facility management for nearly two decades SOP for official capacity is based on # of seats. SRO is surplus and if a team is regularly going into their SRO's than they could actually average over 100% capacity (see below tweet from Penn St hockey as an example). Just figured I would throw that out there to potentially clear up some semantics issues because both sides can be correct; official capacity to determine a sellout and what Oregon St Athletics would use when they do the math is based on the # of seats and would be a lower number/metric than what Reser could actually hold but if you want to argue about what teams coming to Corvallis would bring in max revenue and bodies inside Reser than actual facility capacity is the higher number but that is not the "official" number. Now if you want to argue that the goal should always be max capacity in regards to as many people as possible inside the venue or if including SRO should be how you determine official capacity . . . well those are totally different conversations but across 3 different NCAA D1 conferences I've worked in, every school in all 3 conferences in every sport deems a "sellout" to be if all seats are sold regardless of if SRO is available/sold or if the ticketholder even redeem their ticket and is inside the venue. Really wasn't semantics as my "number" was a approximation to point to post regarding another P4 team could regularly sellout Reser like Oregon can. The numbers game from a the poster who wanted to conflate my point with official seating numbers. Which in doing so mentioned the fact of games at over 100% capacity. My response regarding SRO was to indicate my acquaintance in the ticket office has said about 3k is the SRO limit, which brings the total to over 38k. So, as usual here ideas and/or points made are often lost in the weeds! Thx for your info. |
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Post by scottishsteel on Jul 12, 2024 8:27:28 GMT -8
I'm not trying to get in the mud here and I'm only quoting you rgeorge as you had the last response about this but as someone who has worked in athletics in events/facility management for nearly two decades SOP for official capacity is based on # of seats. SRO is surplus and if a team is regularly going into their SRO's than they could actually average over 100% capacity (see below tweet from Penn St hockey as an example). Just figured I would throw that out there to potentially clear up some semantics issues because both sides can be correct; official capacity to determine a sellout and what Oregon St Athletics would use when they do the math is based on the # of seats and would be a lower number/metric than what Reser could actually hold but if you want to argue about what teams coming to Corvallis would bring in max revenue and bodies inside Reser than actual facility capacity is the higher number but that is not the "official" number. Now if you want to argue that the goal should always be max capacity in regards to as many people as possible inside the venue or if including SRO should be how you determine official capacity . . . well those are totally different conversations but across 3 different NCAA D1 conferences I've worked in, every school in all 3 conferences in every sport deems a "sellout" to be if all seats are sold regardless of if SRO is available/sold or if the ticketholder even redeem their ticket and is inside the venue. Really wasn't semantics as my "number" was a approximation to point to post regarding another P4 team could regularly sellout Reser like Oregon can. The numbers game from a the poster who wanted to conflate my point with official seating numbers. Which in doing so mentioned the fact of games at over 100% capacity. My response regarding SRO was to indicate my acquaintance in the ticket office has said about 3k is the SRO limit, which brings the total to over 38k. So, as usual here ideas and/or points made are often lost in the weeds! Thx for your info. I'm pretty new to this board so I don't know the mannerisms of individual posters but I am familiar with how message boards can tangent into really dumb arguments sometimes. I've enjoyed reading the back and forth debate about scheduling/scheduling philosophy in regards to opponents and didn't want that to turn into a petty argument on what official capacity was or wasn't. My whole goal was to merely nip that in the bud and let hopefully a more productive conversation continue. |
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Post by beavs6 on Jul 12, 2024 9:29:52 GMT -8
Really wasn't semantics as my "number" was a approximation to point to post regarding another P4 team could regularly sellout Reser like Oregon can. The numbers game from a the poster who wanted to conflate my point with official seating numbers. Which in doing so mentioned the fact of games at over 100% capacity. My response regarding SRO was to indicate my acquaintance in the ticket office has said about 3k is the SRO limit, which brings the total to over 38k. So, as usual here ideas and/or points made are often lost in the weeds! Thx for your info. I'm pretty new to this board so I don't know the mannerisms of individual posters but I am familiar with how message boards can tangent into really dumb arguments sometimes. I've enjoyed reading the back and forth debate about scheduling/scheduling philosophy in regards to opponents and didn't want that to turn into a petty argument on what official capacity was or wasn't. My whole goal was to merely nip that in the bud and let hopefully a more productive conversation continue.Valiant effort! Unfortunately you engaged the WRONG board regular. Welcome aboard. |
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Post by darthbeavs on Jul 12, 2024 14:41:15 GMT -8
Ahhh.... well actually official capacity is actually over 38k in the ticket office in that selling of SRO tix is counted in the possible ticket office sales allotment. Attendance is attendance, in seats or standing. And, the average NC visitor tix from OSU's ticket office averaged under 550 last season. Secondary market increases that, but there is no P4 team that will regularly visit Reser and draw more fans and $ than Oregon. Pretty simple concept. The OP stated another NC team could be substituted for Oregon and would sell out. Conflating past attendance in general while a P5 team vs stating another non-conference team will regularly come to Reser and sell out the stadium is invalid. Whether one is in favor of the CW being played having Oregon every 2 years (IF it happens??) is a guaranteed money maker/sellout. I'm not trying to get in the mud here and I'm only quoting you rgeorge as you had the last response about this but as someone who has worked in athletics in events/facility management for nearly two decades SOP for official capacity is based on # of seats. SRO is surplus and if a team is regularly going into their SRO's than they could actually average over 100% capacity (see below tweet from Penn St hockey as an example). Just figured I would throw that out there to potentially clear up some semantics issues because both sides can be correct; official capacity to determine a sellout and what Oregon St Athletics would use when they do the math is based on the # of seats and would be a lower number/metric than what Reser could actually hold but if you want to argue about what teams coming to Corvallis would bring in max revenue and bodies inside Reser than actual facility capacity is the higher number but that is not the "official" number. Now if you want to argue that the goal should always be max capacity in regards to as many people as possible inside the venue or if including SRO should be how you determine official capacity . . . well those are totally different conversations but across 3 different NCAA D1 conferences I've worked in, every school in all 3 conferences in every sport deems a "sellout" to be if all seats are sold regardless of if SRO is available/sold or if the ticketholder even redeem their ticket and is inside the venue. "And this one, it's special, right? All the rest of these go to 10, but this one, see? It goes to 11!" - or something like that  |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 17, 2024 9:43:42 GMT -8
I'm not trying to get in the mud here and I'm only quoting you rgeorge as you had the last response about this but as someone who has worked in athletics in events/facility management for nearly two decades SOP for official capacity is based on # of seats. SRO is surplus and if a team is regularly going into their SRO's than they could actually average over 100% capacity (see below tweet from Penn St hockey as an example). Just figured I would throw that out there to potentially clear up some semantics issues because both sides can be correct; official capacity to determine a sellout and what Oregon St Athletics would use when they do the math is based on the # of seats and would be a lower number/metric than what Reser could actually hold but if you want to argue about what teams coming to Corvallis would bring in max revenue and bodies inside Reser than actual facility capacity is the higher number but that is not the "official" number. Now if you want to argue that the goal should always be max capacity in regards to as many people as possible inside the venue or if including SRO should be how you determine official capacity . . . well those are totally different conversations but across 3 different NCAA D1 conferences I've worked in, every school in all 3 conferences in every sport deems a "sellout" to be if all seats are sold regardless of if SRO is available/sold or if the ticketholder even redeem their ticket and is inside the venue. "And this one, it's special, right? All the rest of these go to 10, but this one, see? It goes to 11!" - or something like that  |
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 19, 2024 21:35:46 GMT -8
I’m holding out for the Bi-Mart TWO fer ONEs.
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