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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jun 3, 2024 15:50:22 GMT -8
According to the announcers (several times during the game), this year's edition of the Beavers has already matched the record for second most HRs hit by a Pac-12 team in a season...... According to the game notes, "Oregon State has now hit 118 home runs on the year. That's tied with the 2022 Stanford Cardinal for the second-most ever in conference history." Anyone know how the teams ahead of us in the record books fared in terms of CWS success, esp. the record holder? Also, I thought that when the new Omaha venue was unveiled not that long ago, the field dimensions were changed such that long ball teams had a harder time hitting HRs? So maybe past performance is not an indication of future success.....
Apparently the top HR hitting team in the Pac-12 set an unobtainable record, as the announcers also said something along the lines of "the Beavers would need to play 30 more games to maybe get near that record". Of course, not sure how Pac-12 records will be thought about in years to come when 8-10 of the 12 teams are new members (assuming the optimistic rebuild scenario).
Go Beavers!
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 3, 2024 15:59:41 GMT -8
According to the announcers (several times during the game), this year's edition of the Beavers has already matched the record for second most HRs hit by a Pac-12 team in a season...... According to the game notes, "Oregon State has now hit 118 home runs on the year. That's tied with the 2022 Stanford Cardinal for the second-most ever in conference history." Anyone know how the teams ahead of us in the record books fared in terms of CWS success, esp. the record holder? Also, I thought that when the new Omaha venue was unveiled not that long ago, the field dimensions were changed such that long ball teams had a harder time hitting HRs? So maybe past performance is not an indication of future success..... Apparently the top HR hitting team in the Pac-12 set an unobtainable record, as the announcers also said something along the lines of "the Beavers would need to play 30 more games to maybe get near that record". Of course, not sure how Pac-12 records will be thought about in years to come when 8-10 of the 12 teams are new members (assuming the optimistic rebuild scenario). Go Beavers! 1997 team broke (10) records...The team broke 10 records: wins in a season (47), runs scored in a season (631), runs scored in an inning (13), hits in an inning (10), runs scored in an inning without an out being recorded (13), hits in a game (31), hits in a doubleheader (51), runs in a doubleheader (36), home runs in a season (142) and doubles in a season (173). "The 1997 team won the Pac-10 title with a 43–18 record (21–9 Pac-10) and reached in the CWS. The team was led by head coach Gary Adams and included future Major League Baseball players Troy Glaus, Jim Parque, and Eric Byrnes. Jon Heinrichs, Tom Jacquez, Eric Valent, and Peter Zamora also played on the team. During the season, UCLA held a number one ranking, and the team finished the season ranked sixth. At the NCAA tournament Midwest Regional in Stillwater, Oklahoma, the Bruins lost the first game to Harvard, but won the next four games, against Ohio, Tennessee, Harvard, and Oklahoma State, in order to advance to the College World Series. At the College World Series, UCLA struggled with poor pitching and defense and lost its first game to Miami, 7–3 (12 innings), and was eliminated by Mississippi State, 7–5, in their second game." I believe they said they had (3) guys hit more than (25) HRs, Troy Glaus lead with (34)... still the record. It appears (20) guy off that roster ('97 or '98 drafts) were drafted, Glaus (1-3), with (5) having multiple seasons at the MLB level. With (6) more topping out at AAA.
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Post by gnawitall on Jun 3, 2024 16:09:14 GMT -8
According to the announcers (several times during the game), this year's edition of the Beavers has already matched the record for second most HRs hit by a Pac-12 team in a season...... According to the game notes, "Oregon State has now hit 118 home runs on the year. That's tied with the 2022 Stanford Cardinal for the second-most ever in conference history." Anyone know how the teams ahead of us in the record books fared in terms of CWS success, esp. the record holder? Also, I thought that when the new Omaha venue was unveiled not that long ago, the field dimensions were changed such that long ball teams had a harder time hitting HRs? So maybe past performance is not an indication of future success..... Apparently the top HR hitting team in the Pac-12 set an unobtainable record, as the announcers also said something along the lines of "the Beavers would need to play 30 more games to maybe get near that record". Of course, not sure how Pac-12 records will be thought about in years to come when 8-10 of the 12 teams are new members (assuming the optimistic rebuild scenario). Go Beavers! 1997 team broke (10) records...The team broke 10 records: wins in a season (47), runs scored in a season (631), runs scored in an inning (13), hits in an inning (10), runs scored in an inning without an out being recorded (13), hits in a game (31), hits in a doubleheader (51), runs in a doubleheader (36), home runs in a season (142) and doubles in a season (173). "The 1997 team won the Pac-10 title with a 43–18 record (21–9 Pac-10) and reached in the CWS. The team was led by head coach Gary Adams and included future Major League Baseball players Troy Glaus, Jim Parque, and Eric Byrnes. Jon Heinrichs, Tom Jacquez, Eric Valent, and Peter Zamora also played on the team. During the season, UCLA held a number one ranking, and the team finished the season ranked sixth. At the NCAA tournament Midwest Regional in Stillwater, Oklahoma, the Bruins lost the first game to Harvard, but won the next four games, against Ohio, Tennessee, Harvard, and Oklahoma State, in order to advance to the College World Series. At the College World Series, UCLA struggled with poor pitching and defense and lost its first game to Miami, 7–3 (12 innings), and was eliminated by Mississippi State, 7–5, in their second game." I believe they said they had (3) guys hit more than (25) HRs, Troy Glaus lead with (34)... still the record. It appears (20) guy off that roster ('97 or '98 drafts) were drafted, Glaus (1-3), with (5) having multiple seasons at the MLB level. With (6) more topping out at AAA. live bat era too?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 3, 2024 16:13:44 GMT -8
The 1998 Bruins featured Chase Utley, Eric Valent, Garrett Atkins and Eric Byrnes. All had solid MLB careers; some consider Utley a borderline HOFer and Atkins had some great years with Colorado before flaming out at 30.
We swept them in the final series at Coleman Field.
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Post by ftd on Jun 3, 2024 16:16:55 GMT -8
clearly now Mitch's team. Pat was more small ball. Mitch is just hit the crap out of the ball. Now we just need some Casey fielding prowess!
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 3, 2024 16:33:00 GMT -8
1997 team broke (10) records...The team broke 10 records: wins in a season (47), runs scored in a season (631), runs scored in an inning (13), hits in an inning (10), runs scored in an inning without an out being recorded (13), hits in a game (31), hits in a doubleheader (51), runs in a doubleheader (36), home runs in a season (142) and doubles in a season (173). "The 1997 team won the Pac-10 title with a 43–18 record (21–9 Pac-10) and reached in the CWS. The team was led by head coach Gary Adams and included future Major League Baseball players Troy Glaus, Jim Parque, and Eric Byrnes. Jon Heinrichs, Tom Jacquez, Eric Valent, and Peter Zamora also played on the team. During the season, UCLA held a number one ranking, and the team finished the season ranked sixth. At the NCAA tournament Midwest Regional in Stillwater, Oklahoma, the Bruins lost the first game to Harvard, but won the next four games, against Ohio, Tennessee, Harvard, and Oklahoma State, in order to advance to the College World Series. At the College World Series, UCLA struggled with poor pitching and defense and lost its first game to Miami, 7–3 (12 innings), and was eliminated by Mississippi State, 7–5, in their second game." I believe they said they had (3) guys hit more than (25) HRs, Troy Glaus lead with (34)... still the record. It appears (20) guy off that roster ('97 or '98 drafts) were drafted, Glaus (1-3), with (5) having multiple seasons at the MLB level. With (6) more topping out at AAA. live bat era too? Yep... the tail end of it. The weight/length differential was a big deal back then. You could swing a 34" big barrel that weight 28 ounces. Then the BESR and (-3) weight ratio was implemented. But, it really did not last long as better alloys/composites were made and player/teams could create "hot" bats. Even though these bats met BESR initially, they were never retested. And, players found the more the bats were used, the better the "pop" off the bat became (trampoline effect). I had teams that would use the same bat or two until it was cracked. Personal bats once never used for BP were used all the time to "break them in", called "rolled" bats. In a 8-9 years the offensive output was back to "gorilla ball" standards. "In 2009, the NCAA tested 25 bats at the College World Series. Although all of those bats had met BESR standards when new, it found that 20 of the 25 bats failed to meet the BESR standards when retested after being used in games."If you look thru the history it is a never ending battle to limit, fix overcorrection, fix again. In 2010-2011 the BBCOR standard went into effect to control the trampoline effect. An overcorrection... as a team like UCLA who had hit 142 HRs in 1997 The 1998 title game was 21-14 USC over ASU!) and was 2 and cue in the CWS, won the CWS title in 2013 hitting a TOTAL of (19) HRs!! "By 2014, the home run rate around Division I was 0.39 per game, lower than it was in the final years of the wood bat era in the early 1970s. In 2014, batters hit one home run every 98 plate appearances. In 2010, they had hit one every 43 plate appearances."So... of course a new "fix! But this time it was to lower the seams on the ball itself to lower the drag coefficient. Less drag, more distance. Doesn't help averages or Ks as they have climbed, but HRs have kept runs per game higher and back to the norm before all the changes. Bats are also test prior to a season and prior to each series. Ok... there is more info than anyone wanted to know...
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2024 16:42:41 GMT -8
The 1998 Bruins featured Chase Utley, Eric Valent, Garrett Atkins and Eric Byrnes. All had solid MLB careers; some consider Utley a borderline HOFer and Atkins had some great years with Colorado before flaming out at 30. We swept them in the final series at Coleman Field. The final series at Ralph Coleman Field was the sweep against UCLA. When Oregon State started up the 1999 season, they were playing at Goss Stadium at Coleman Field. Fun fact. The Athletic Director for Oregon State at the time was Mitch Barnhart, who is now the Athletic Director at Kentucky. Barnhart was present at the 1998 ground breaking ceremony for Goss Stadium.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2024 17:46:24 GMT -8
According to the announcers (several times during the game), this year's edition of the Beavers has already matched the record for second most HRs hit by a Pac-12 team in a season...... According to the game notes, "Oregon State has now hit 118 home runs on the year. That's tied with the 2022 Stanford Cardinal for the second-most ever in conference history." Anyone know how the teams ahead of us in the record books fared in terms of CWS success, esp. the record holder? Also, I thought that when the new Omaha venue was unveiled not that long ago, the field dimensions were changed such that long ball teams had a harder time hitting HRs? So maybe past performance is not an indication of future success..... Apparently the top HR hitting team in the Pac-12 set an unobtainable record, as the announcers also said something along the lines of "the Beavers would need to play 30 more games to maybe get near that record". Of course, not sure how Pac-12 records will be thought about in years to come when 8-10 of the 12 teams are new members (assuming the optimistic rebuild scenario). Go Beavers! UCLA hit 142 home runs in 1997. Troy Glaus hit 34 homers, Jon Heinrichs hit 28, Eric Valent hit 27, Eric Byrnes hit 17, Peter Zamora hit 16, Nick Theodorou hit 6, Brett Nista hit 4, Casey Cloud hit 3, Jack Santora hit 2, and five others hit one. UCLA finished second in the Pac-10 South behind Stanford at 19-11 and 40-18-1 overall. The Pac-10 South Championship came down to a final three-game series against Stanford at Jackie Robinson. Much like Oregon State this year, UCLA needed to sweep to claim the Pac-10 South Championship. UCLA won Game One 10-9 and Game Two 13-8 but dropped Game Three 9-6 and the Pac-10 South as a result. UCLA followed that up by losing to Cal State Northridge 12-6 to finish up the regular season. The Pac-10 South Champion, Stanford, hosted the six-team West Regional and beat Northeastern 12-3, Texas A&M 3-1, Santa Clara 10-7, and Fresno State 5-2 in the Championship Game. UCLA was named a #1 seed but was shipped to the Midwest Regional, hosted by Oklahoma State, which was awarded a #3 seed. UCLA was upset by #6 Harvard 7-2. UCLA came out of the losers' bracket with a 15-1 win over #5 Ohio, a 5-3 win over #2 Tennessee, a 14-9 win over #6 Harvard, and then two hilarious wins over the hosts, 14-2 and 22-2. The five consecutive wins punched UCLA's ticket to Omaha with an overall record of 45-19-1. UCLA finished ninth in the nation in scoring at 9.7 runs/game. In 2024, 9.7 runs/game would be good for third. By winning the Midwest Regional, UCLA played in its first College World Series in 28 years and second ever. The Bruins had never won a game at the College World Series, going 0-2 in 1969. UCLA would not win a game at the College World Series for another 13 years, first winning a College World Series game in 2010. At the time, the Tournament was reseeded between the Regionals and the College World Series. The five one-seeds which won Regionals were given seeds 1-5. The three two-seeds were given seeds 6-8. UCLA was seeded four and played Miami the five-seed. Miami and UCLA were the only one seeds, who had to play each other. The 1-3 seeds--Bama, LSU, and Stanford--each won their opener. At the time, the College World Series started the Friday after Memorial Day. Miami and UCLA played in the first game on Saturday. Miami won in 12 innings after UCLA's closer tired and gave up four straight walks in the 12th. The Bruins blew their ace, Saturday starter, and closer in the loss. Byrnes singled in the ninth, and Glaus hit the game-tying homer right after Byrnes singled. Glaus broke Mark McGwire's single season Pac-10 home run record (32) with his 33rd home run. UCLA issued a College World Series record 16 walks in the loss. Against Mississippi State, UCLA led 3-2 in the sixth and 4-3 in the seventh but could hold neither lead. The Bruins' closer, who went long against the Canes came back and gave up three runs in two innings on four hits and a walk. Although, to be fair, none of the runs were earned. Glaus hit his 34th home run against Mississippi State to set the Pac-10/12 record. Glaus' two homers were the only UCLA homers in Omaha after the Bruins combined to hit140 in the 65 games before. Oregon State has 11 games left at most. In order to tie the record, the Beavs would have to average hitting more than two per game. However, The Beavs have already hit seven twice this year. Oregon State absolutely needs to go to Omaha to catch UCLA. It would be unbelievable to tie the record in three and lose twice. With all of that said, Oregon State would need to play the maximum 11 games in order to play in the same 67 games that UCLA played in in 1997.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 3, 2024 19:37:50 GMT -8
Washington was the Pacific-10 Conference baseball champion in 1997 and 1998. It won the North-South playoff both seasons to earn the conference's automatic NCAA tournament bid.
So much arrogance in the old Six-Pac toward the North, even though the North kicked Stanford's butt in both playoff series.
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