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Post by Mike84 on Oct 17, 2016 12:37:51 GMT -8
Excerpts from Wikipedia article about the 1985 OSU/UW game: "....the Seattle team was on a roll....feeling strong as a result of the...win streak that had returned the Huskies to the top of the Pac-10 standings.
In stark contrast, the Beavers were coming off....losses. To make matters worse for Oregon State, starting quarterback Erik Wilhelm was out for the season, and Pac-10 Conference (Pac-10) leading receiver Reggie Bynum was also out due to injury.
...The game seemed a clear mismatch, with the Huskies as astounding 38-point favorites to win the game."
Last I checked, the Huskies are a 33.5 to 35-point favorite this weekend. We've already got the recent losses, the games this season in which we gave up much more than we scored, and we've lost our staring QB(s). All we need now is for the Huskies to become 38-point favorites and we'll have them right where we want them.  Realistically, the Huskies may be even better this year than the were in 1985. But, the 2016 Beavers, with the apparent recent improvements on defense and at least a threat of moving the ball and scoring when things go right, are also better than in 1985. So, we'll just go with this being the same result as 1985.... a 21-20 Beaver win! Yeah, that's the ticket! If the Beavers did find a way to win, it would also be like 1985 in the sense that it would knock the Huskies out of the driver's seat. In 1985 it ended up knocking them out of the Rose Bowl. This year, it would knock them out of the playoffs. On the other hand, the 1985 Beavers did not win any more games after the UW game and ended up 9th in the Pac-10. Personally, I'd rather lose this game to the Huskies and win some more conference games this season (like the Civil War) than to somehow win this one and have it be our last conference win for the year. So, maybe it doesn't need to be 1985 again after all. Go Beavs! Mike '84 |
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Post by jimbeav on Oct 17, 2016 12:41:39 GMT -8
You're right, the situations are pretty similar. Unfortunately, I think the chances are better that the football karma evens out this year, and makes up for that 38-point upset by having the Huskies double the point spread on us this time around...
GO BEAVS!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 17, 2016 14:40:38 GMT -8
Excerpts from Wikipedia article about the 1985 OSU/UW game: "....the Seattle team was on a roll....feeling strong as a result of the...win streak that had returned the Huskies to the top of the Pac-10 standings.
In stark contrast, the Beavers were coming off....losses. To make matters worse for Oregon State, starting quarterback Erik Wilhelm was out for the season, and Pac-10 Conference (Pac-10) leading receiver Reggie Bynum was also out due to injury.
...The game seemed a clear mismatch, with the Huskies as astounding 38-point favorites to win the game."
Last I checked, the Huskies are a 33.5 to 35-point favorite this weekend. We've already got the recent losses, the games this season in which we gave up much more than we scored, and we've lost our staring QB(s). All we need now is for the Huskies to become 38-point favorites and we'll have them right where we want them. Realistically, the Huskies may be even better this year than the were in 1985. But, the 2016 Beavers, with the apparent recent improvements on defense and at least a threat of moving the ball and scoring when things go right, are also better than in 1985. So, we'll just go with this being the same result as 1985.... a 21-20 Beaver win! Yeah, that's the ticket! If the Beavers did find a way to win, it would also be like 1985 in the sense that it would knock the Huskies out of the driver's seat. In 1985 it ended up knocking them out of the Rose Bowl. This year, it would knock them out of the playoffs. On the other hand, the 1985 Beavers did not win any more games after the UW game and ended up 9th in the Pac-10. Personally, I'd rather lose this game to the Huskies and win some more conference games this season (like the Civil War) than to somehow win this one and have it be our last conference win for the year. So, maybe it doesn't need to be 1985 again after all. Go Beavs! Mike '84 Spread is now in the 35 to 36.5 range. Spread opened at 29. I would like to think that Vegas knows something. Go Beavs! |
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Post by rollotomasi on Oct 17, 2016 14:49:51 GMT -8
"Spread is now in the 35 to 36.5 range. Spread opened at 29. I would like to think that Vegas knows something. Go Beavs!"
Vegas knows that all the money is being placed on the Huskies covering, thus the line is moving...
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 17, 2016 14:52:12 GMT -8
I think Vegas knows Nall probably isn't going to play, and we are down a few qb's - I would think that might push the spread wider.
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 17, 2016 18:02:19 GMT -8
A 38 point favorite back in 1985 is probably the equivalent of a 45 point spread nowadays, considering the increase in average scoring over the past 30 years.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 18, 2016 14:51:07 GMT -8
I think Vegas knows Nall probably isn't going to play, and we are down a few qb's - I would think that might push the spread wider. What I mean to say is that Vegas sometimes sets the spread too far on one side or the other. For example, they set the initial line at 29. It is now 38.5. That represents a tremendous amount of money on Washington. If Oregon State keeps it within four touchdowns, Vegas keeps all of that Washington money. I am not saying that there is anything crooked or untoward going on, but, from my experience, I have found that Vegas usually wins when the line move 9.5 points, especially when the money is mostly on the favorite. Thus, I pose the rhetorical question: "I wonder if Vegas knows something?" I would invite Bleeda to comment. |
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