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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 24, 2024 13:28:17 GMT -8
I'm an RPI novice, but it seems that any boost Cal gets (like winning it all), might help the Beavs a bit (since they swept OSU). Also of interest: The final four remaining teams include only one certainty for inclusion in the 64 team field (Arizona).... one 'bubble team' (California - according to 5/24 DI BB, the 64th team in, at present)....and two 'stolen bid' teams (USC and Stanford). USC and Stanford do NOT play each other today (Friday), potentially setting up an 'All-Stolen Bid" Final. You want teams that you beat to win more in a close situation, but the games today are not particularly close. You want Cal to beat USC, because Oregon State only played USC twice. So, USC's wins in conference play always hurt Oregon State's RPI. You want Stanford to beat Arizona for several reasons. Oregon State played Stanford four times, so you generally root for Stanford. But Stanford's RPI also boosts Cal's RPI and Texas Tech's RPI. Arizona's RPI only helps New Mexico's RPI, which helps less than Cal and Texas Tech getting the RPI boost. You definitely want Stanford to win it all, if at all possible. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 24, 2024 13:30:52 GMT -8
who wins the remaining P12 tourney games? Any RPI help/hurt from any of the remaining teams? For RPI purposes, you want Cal and Stanford to win. And you want Stanford to win it all I believe. You want North Dakota State to win today and win the Summit League Championship tomorrow. You want CSUN to beat Irvine. You want Bakersfield to beat Davis. You want Gonzaga to hold on to beat St. Mary's and for Portland to beat later today. Tonight, you want Gonzaga to finish off San Diego. I believe that Gonzaga beating Portland helps RPI more than the other way around, but it will probably be close. You want New Mexico to beat Fresno today and then win the next three. You want Texas Tech to beat Oklahoma State (probably bumps Oregon State up a spot) and then win out. You want Michigan to beat Illinois, Penn State twice and then beat Indiana/Nebraska/Ohio State. Want to be a champion, focus on playing your best wherever and whoever you play next from here on out. Time to put it all together and win whether we're at home or on the road. Everything else is out of our control and a distraction. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 24, 2024 13:36:05 GMT -8
Biggest result we probably want isn't a PAC result. We need Tennessee to beat Mississippi State today so we stay above them in the hosting pecking order. An MSU win today over #1 Tennessee probably jumps them above us and puts us in very real danger of not hosting (and likely going to MSU). Oklahoma State versus Texas Tech is probably a bigger result today. You are cheering on Texas Tech. Texas Tech also helps Oregon State's RPI in other ways beyond the obvious. Mississippi State probably needs to at least make the SEC Championship Game to pass Oregon State. (I do not think that beating Tennessee alone does it.) A perfect result would probably be Mississippi State beating Tennessee and Vandy beating Mississippi State. But you are kind of playing with fire, letting Mississippi State getting that close. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 24, 2024 13:37:29 GMT -8
For RPI purposes, you want Cal and Stanford to win. And you want Stanford to win it all I believe. You want North Dakota State to win today and win the Summit League Championship tomorrow. You want CSUN to beat Irvine. You want Bakersfield to beat Davis. You want Gonzaga to hold on to beat St. Mary's and for Portland to beat later today. Tonight, you want Gonzaga to finish off San Diego. I believe that Gonzaga beating Portland helps RPI more than the other way around, but it will probably be close. You want New Mexico to beat Fresno today and then win the next three. You want Texas Tech to beat Oklahoma State (probably bumps Oregon State up a spot) and then win out. You want Michigan to beat Illinois, Penn State twice and then beat Indiana/Nebraska/Ohio State. Want to be a champion, focus on playing your best wherever and whoever you play next from here on out. Time to put it all together and win whether we're at home or on the road. Everything else is out of our control and a distraction. Maybe for the coaches and players. Fans, though? Might as well cheer on the best possible bracket possible for Oregon State. And the recipe for that is what I attempted to outline above. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 24, 2024 13:40:13 GMT -8
I have vague memories of prior years where we entered the last weekend needing certain scenarios to happen, and when they did or didn't happen, the committee's decision seemed to ignore the final weekend results. I suspect they've already made their decision, and based on our stretch run at the end of the season, I think we're hosting. The Committee decisions sometimes ignores the final weekend results and sometimes overvalues the final weekend results, depending on the whims of the Committee. You do not want to trust the Committee will ignore the final weekend, because then you get things like Ole Miss passing Oregon State the final weekend like in 2019. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 24, 2024 13:45:09 GMT -8
An Oklahoma State loss today doesn't hurt either.... It would hurt our overall RPI. But may help us be seen above them. Might need wilky math to know what result would actually be better for us. Oklahoma State losses generally hurt Oregon State's RPI, but they are playing Texas Tech, so a Texas Tech win actually helps Oregon State's RPI. Go Tech! |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 24, 2024 14:25:37 GMT -8
Not really. Committee usually only considers regular season RPI. How you do in a tourney is just something to help an argument for bubble teams like any other stat or superlative. RPI #s will change. How much they effect seeding is a committee decision on teams they are deciding between. They also get a "conference sheet". It includes games vs ALL conference opponents... conference, midweek, tourney games are all on that list. When teams are tightly bunched for seeding purposes RPI, how a team finished vs what type of competition, and RPI "trend" are looked at. But, really it comes down to committee "opinions". Confirmation bias using whatever data points they can find to back up their seeding. Spot on George |
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Post by justheretoread on May 24, 2024 15:54:52 GMT -8
I am so tired of the RPI apologists on this board. It’s one thing to acknowledge that the committee (stupidly, IMO) relies on it so heavily. It’s completely another thing to legitimize the RPI as some type of objective assessment. IT IS NOT. It is heavily flawed, self perpetuating and put in place by the conferences benefiting the most from it. We unfortunately have to accept it for what it is, but stop arguing with people who understandably call it out for what it is.
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Post by rgeorge on May 24, 2024 19:23:13 GMT -8
I am so tired of the RPI apologists on this board. It’s one thing to acknowledge that the committee (stupidly, IMO) relies on it so heavily. It’s completely another thing to legitimize the RPI as some type of objective assessment. IT IS NOT. It is heavily flawed, self perpetuating and put in place by the conferences benefiting the most from it. We unfortunately have to accept it for what it is, but stop arguing with people who understandably call it out for what it is. Lol... "put in place by the conferences benefiting the most from it" 🙄 So, RPI was created by a conference(s)?🤣 "Apologist" vs "legitimize" Do you just make stuff up? Often? Maybe stick to the moniker?? |
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Post by justheretoread on May 24, 2024 20:34:11 GMT -8
Lololol…what a joke
I am so glad you knew who I was talking to.
😂😂😂😂
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