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Post by lebaneaver on May 23, 2024 21:19:55 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 23, 2024 22:26:28 GMT -8
Noticed it was the Power 5 that agreed. Seems to me several say it’s the Power 4 going forward. Hmmmm.
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Post by clydebeav on May 23, 2024 22:47:28 GMT -8
Noticed it was the Power 5 that agreed. Seems to me several say it’s the Power 4 going forward. Hmmmm. Power 5 until August 1st. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 24, 2024 9:11:37 GMT -8
Noticed it was the Power 5 that agreed. Seems to me several say it’s the Power 4 going forward. Hmmmm. Power 5 until August 1st. I'm kinda focusing on the part that says "That process is expected to take several months, and sources said schools likely will begin sharing revenue in fall 2025." There seems to be people who think the Pac 12 will not and cannot exist as a Power 5 conference in the future. While odds are against it, things are in flux as far as how the NCAA conferences will look a couple years from now. My personal opinion is I think several of the rulings the last few months have left wiggle room for the conference to remain a Power 5 conference "IF" they can reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. The future isn't certain. |
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Post by grayman on May 24, 2024 12:04:30 GMT -8
Power 5 until August 1st. I'm kinda focusing on the part that says "That process is expected to take several months, and sources said schools likely will begin sharing revenue in fall 2025." There seems to be people who think the Pac 12 will not and cannot exist as a Power 5 conference in the future. While odds are against it, things are in flux as far as how the NCAA conferences will look a couple years from now. My personal opinion is I think several of the rulings the last few months have left wiggle room for the conference to remain a Power 5 conference "IF" they can reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. The future isn't certain. Well, it is certain that the Pac-12 (2) is not going to be a "power" conference after Aug. 1. So, as you say, it would have to reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. IMO, best case would be that Stanford, Cal and SMU wind up out of the ACC and look to join with OSU and WSU. Then you MIGHT have a strong enough foundation along with Boise State, San Diego State, etc. But it would be borderline at best. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 24, 2024 19:53:21 GMT -8
I'm kinda focusing on the part that says "That process is expected to take several months, and sources said schools likely will begin sharing revenue in fall 2025." There seems to be people who think the Pac 12 will not and cannot exist as a Power 5 conference in the future. While odds are against it, things are in flux as far as how the NCAA conferences will look a couple years from now. My personal opinion is I think several of the rulings the last few months have left wiggle room for the conference to remain a Power 5 conference "IF" they can reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. The future isn't certain. Well, it is certain that the Pac-12 (2) is not going to be a "power" conference after Aug. 1. So, as you say, it would have to reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. IMO, best case would be that Stanford, Cal and SMU wind up out of the ACC and look to join with OSU and WSU. Then you MIGHT have a strong enough foundation along with Boise State, San Diego State, etc. But it would be borderline at best. Nothing is "certain". There are rumors of all types, including the Pac 2 cherry picking the best of the MWC and adfing a few ACC teams. OSU, WSU, BSU, UNLV, AFA, SJS, WYO and FSU all received top 25 football polling votes the last season. SDSU is not far removed from success. That'd be a fairly strong 8-9 team conference right there. Add in a few ACC teams if the lawsuits go a certain way and that conference goes bye bye, and you've potentially got a fairly strong conference in the Pac 12, and a potential weak conference in what was the ACC. I cannot say this will happen in the next 3-28 months, but I cannot say it won't. Just look at what has happened with NIL in a few short months time. The Pac 12 may not be a power conference after August 1st, it may temporarily not be power conference after August first, or it may be agreed in principle that it is and will continue to be a power conference in the future. The word "certain" ... just flat out isn't any more, when it comes to speaking of future events. The Pac 12 went to the Pac 2 dang fast, despite being one of the strongest Power conferences in the NCAA . Nothing is set in stone anymore. |
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Post by grayman on May 28, 2024 10:13:48 GMT -8
Well, it is certain that the Pac-12 (2) is not going to be a "power" conference after Aug. 1. So, as you say, it would have to reconstitute with a strong mix of teams. IMO, best case would be that Stanford, Cal and SMU wind up out of the ACC and look to join with OSU and WSU. Then you MIGHT have a strong enough foundation along with Boise State, San Diego State, etc. But it would be borderline at best. Nothing is "certain". There are rumors of all types, including the Pac 2 cherry picking the best of the MWC and adfing a few ACC teams. OSU, WSU, BSU, UNLV, AFA, SJS, WYO and FSU all received top 25 football polling votes the last season. SDSU is not far removed from success. That'd be a fairly strong 8-9 team conference right there. Add in a few ACC teams if the lawsuits go a certain way and that conference goes bye bye, and you've potentially got a fairly strong conference in the Pac 12, and a potential weak conference in what was the ACC. I cannot say this will happen in the next 3-28 months, but I cannot say it won't. Just look at what has happened with NIL in a few short months time. The Pac 12 may not be a power conference after August 1st, it may temporarily not be power conference after August first, or it may be agreed in principle that it is and will continue to be a power conference in the future. The word "certain" ... just flat out isn't any more, when it comes to speaking of future events. The Pac 12 went to the Pac 2 dang fast, despite being one of the strongest Power conferences in the NCAA . Nothing is set in stone anymore. It has lost its autonomous status. It is certain that the Pac-12 will not be a power conference as of Aug. 2. That won't suddenly change for a number of reasons. It would be virtually impossible to put together a group of teams to create an official conference in two months, much less bring in enough "power" schools to be considered a power conference. Not to mention the Pac-2 already has set landing places for most of its sports for the 2024-25 school year. The death of the Pac-12 will have taken over two years when it becomes reality in August. It seems like a lot of it went fast but the Pac-12 still exists with 12 members as of today. I agree that nothing is set in stone as far as college sports so many possibilities are not out of the question but that doesn't mean anything is possible, either. For example, the Pac-2 will not be asked to join the SEC. The Pac-12 returning to viable power status is extremely doubtful as it stands right now. And if it does, it won't be for at least a year and probably more. |
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