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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -8
Northern Colorado @ North Dakota State
The most important game for Oregon State's RPI other than Oregon State @ Arizona.
Northern Colorado has runners on second and third with one out. Flyball. The runner from third touches home, and the runner from second beats the throw into third. After the play is over, North Dakota State appeals the runner on second leaving early, and Northern Colorado's runner is called out, ending the inning.
The question is does that runner from third touching home still count, despite the runner on second leaving early?
If the throw had been from the outfield to second right off the bat, I think that the answer is no.
But does it matter that they tried to get the runner at third before appealing back to second?
I have no idea. The umpires in that one gave Northern Colorado the run.
Northern Colorado 5 - NORTH DAKOTA STATE 0 in the fourth.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on May 17, 2024 19:09:12 GMT -8
Northern Colorado @ North Dakota State The most important game for Oregon State's RPI other than Oregon State @ Arizona. Northern Colorado has runners on second and third with one out. Flyball. The runner from third touches home, and the runner from second beats the throw into third. After the play is over, North Dakota State appeals the runner on second leaving early, and Northern Colorado's runner is called out, ending the inning. The question is does that runner from third touching home still count, despite the runner on second leaving early? If the throw had been from the outfield to second right off the bat, I think that the answer is no. But does it matter that they tried to get the runner at third before appealing back to second? I have no idea. The umpires in that one gave Northern Colorado the run. Northern Colorado 5 - NORTH DAKOTA STATE 0 in the fourth. probably has the answer, but I would think with the play at 2nd then being a force out the run shouldn't have counted. Not 100% sure though. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 17, 2024 19:26:49 GMT -8
Northern Colorado @ North Dakota State The most important game for Oregon State's RPI other than Oregon State @ Arizona. Northern Colorado has runners on second and third with one out. Flyball. The runner from third touches home, and the runner from second beats the throw into third. After the play is over, North Dakota State appeals the runner on second leaving early, and Northern Colorado's runner is called out, ending the inning. The question is does that runner from third touching home still count, despite the runner on second leaving early? If the throw had been from the outfield to second right off the bat, I think that the answer is no. But does it matter that they tried to get the runner at third before appealing back to second? I have no idea. The umpires in that one gave Northern Colorado the run. Northern Colorado 5 - NORTH DAKOTA STATE 0 in the fourth. probably has the answer, but I would think with the play at 2nd then being a force out the run shouldn't have counted. Not 100% sure though. Basically it is not a "force" not because it was on appeal, but the runner wasn't forced to a base. Leaving early on a tag isn't being "forced" to another bag. Appealing the leaving early happened after the run scored, so it stands. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 17, 2024 20:37:17 GMT -8
rgeorge probably has the answer, but I would think with the play at 2nd then being a force out the run shouldn't have counted. Not 100% sure though. Basically it is not a "force" not because it was on appeal, but the runner wasn't forced to a base. Leaving early on a tag isn't being "forced" to another bag. Appealing the leaving early happened after the run scored, so it stands. Huh. I thought that the rule was similar to a force out, so I was confused. The announcer was confused. The umpires had to huddle to figure it out. I thought that it was interesting. It did not end up mattering, 5-2 Northern Colorado. |
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Post by justdamwin on May 18, 2024 8:06:21 GMT -8
yes, run scores. The out is an appeal play which is a timing play.
it is not, as often mistaken a “force out” which would eliminate the run.
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