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Post by grayman on May 16, 2024 16:06:20 GMT -8
Per Daschle
Beavers and Ducks will not play in the upcoming season
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Post by finleybandbeav on May 16, 2024 18:24:20 GMT -8
If true and I assume it is, that is astounding news, and not in a good way.
We are right up the road. Two DI teams. Seriously, WTF?
I'm pretty sure someone will post the real reason, but for the moment, I'm going to enjoy my take on it: The wimpy-ass Ducks, who could barely find a win anywhere last season, are afraid to face the "lowly" WCC Beavs next year, unwilling to risk getting their butts kicked (yet again), and maybe (due to the "bad" loss) not making the post-season...as if that would ever happen anyway.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 16, 2024 19:48:24 GMT -8
If true and I assume it is, that is astounding news, and not in a good way. We are right up the road. Two DI teams. Seriously, WTF? I'm pretty sure someone will post the real reason, but for the moment, I'm going to enjoy my take on it: The wimpy-ass Ducks, who could barely find a win anywhere last season, are afraid to face the "lowly" WCC Beavs next year, unwilling to risk getting their butts kicked (yet again), and maybe (due to the "bad" loss) not making the post-season...as if that would ever happen anyway. The real reason is the same reason the men may not play. Since they would only play one once, neither team wants to play on the road. There’s a stalemate going on. |
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Post by messi on May 17, 2024 6:16:36 GMT -8
They didn't want their BIG pride hurt losing to a WCC school.
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Post by rgeorge on May 17, 2024 11:27:23 GMT -8
They didn't want their BIG pride hurt losing to a WCC school. It may be true IF OSU had a roster... but right now Oregon has the superior team on paper. And, I've not read it was one school or the other unwilling to schedule. But, not as if a date could be set anyway at this point. Not sure where the seeming animosity is coming from. It seems the other sports are still going to schedule one another... for now. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 17, 2024 11:52:54 GMT -8
I wish we weren't playing them in anything until we get things straightened out conference -wise. If we land in the Big 12 in the future maybe we continue to compete with hole. If we continue to be relegated, we are going to be at such a disadvantage, what's the point? At least before we had the Pac 12 status.
I just don't want to end up being a "tune up" game for them, with our hand out for a pay day.
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Post by rgeorge on May 17, 2024 11:59:41 GMT -8
I wish we weren't playing them in anything until we get things straightened out conference -wise. If we land in the Big 12 in the future maybe we continue to compete with hole. If we continue to be relegated, we are going to be at such a disadvantage, what's the point? At least before we had the Pac 12 status. I just don't want to end up being a "tune up" game for them, with our hand out for a pay day. I get your point in terms of not being a purely $ game. But, Pac12 "status" doesn't change the always present budget disparity. OSU has always been at a "disadvantage". But, Oregon provides a market and financial positive. It reduces expenses for a quality NC opponent and adds far more revenue than an out of state NC opponent. OSU needs all the financial and marketing advantages and marketing it can get. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 17, 2024 13:37:18 GMT -8
Amazingly stupid short-term thinking on both side's fault. If the series is to remain home-and-home, who cares who gets the first game?
And the "can't fit it on the schedule" excuse is BS. Both teams will have several OOC games against POS opponents that could have easily been dropped to accommodate a matchup.
Jesus, even the football programs figured this one out, and they're dealing with real money.
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Post by beaveragain on May 17, 2024 14:33:00 GMT -8
Graves has always said "sure, love to play the Beav's". While Rueck has always said "we will have to see if it's in our best interests". Why he feels it's not in OSU's interests to play the Ducks he hasn't ever said, but I'd bet that the no is from Rueck.
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Post by lebaneaver on May 17, 2024 14:42:29 GMT -8
BFD....FTd.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 18, 2024 8:35:21 GMT -8
I wish we weren't playing them in anything until we get things straightened out conference -wise. If we land in the Big 12 in the future maybe we continue to compete with hole. If we continue to be relegated, we are going to be at such a disadvantage, what's the point? At least before we had the Pac 12 status. I just don't want to end up being a "tune up" game for them, with our hand out for a pay day. I get your point in terms of not being a purely $ game. But, Pac12 "status" doesn't change the always present budget disparity. OSU has always been at a "disadvantage". But, Oregon provides a market and financial positive. It reduces expenses for a quality NC opponent and adds far more revenue than an out of state NC opponent. OSU needs all the financial and marketing advantages and marketing it can get. Yea, this is the same argument every time something like this is brought up. I guess there's the purely business angle, and there's the emotional/pride angle. If we can compete, I'm all for it. My point with Pac 12 status is it allowed us to be the "best college town in the Pac 12.". You can recruit to that. Rueck recruited McDonald's All Americans to that! And they promptly bailed when we got relegated to the WCC. We are NOT getting that level of talent as long as we play a WCC schedule. Hole will likely continue to recruit at a very high level. Rueck's a great coach, but if you don't have horses, you don't have em. I just don't want to be blown out for a pay day |
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Post by jimbob on May 19, 2024 0:13:06 GMT -8
I get your point in terms of not being a purely $ game. But, Pac12 "status" doesn't change the always present budget disparity. OSU has always been at a "disadvantage". But, Oregon provides a market and financial positive. It reduces expenses for a quality NC opponent and adds far more revenue than an out of state NC opponent. OSU needs all the financial and marketing advantages and marketing it can get. Yea, this is the same argument every time something like this is brought up. I guess there's the purely business angle, and there's the emotional/pride angle. If we can compete, I'm all for it. My point with Pac 12 status is it allowed us to be the "best college town in the Pac 12.". You can recruit to that. Rueck recruited McDonald's All Americans to that! And they promptly bailed when we got relegated to the WCC. We are NOT getting that level of talent as long as we play a WCC schedule. Hole will likely continue to recruit at a very high level. Rueck's a great coach, but if you don't have horses, you don't have em. I just don't want to be blown out for a pay day And I think that is exactly what Coach Rueck is thinking here---it is just not in OS's best interests to get blown out for a pay day especially by "Hole"! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 19, 2024 9:32:41 GMT -8
Yea, this is the same argument every time something like this is brought up. I guess there's the purely business angle, and there's the emotional/pride angle. If we can compete, I'm all for it. My point with Pac 12 status is it allowed us to be the "best college town in the Pac 12.". You can recruit to that. Rueck recruited McDonald's All Americans to that! And they promptly bailed when we got relegated to the WCC. We are NOT getting that level of talent as long as we play a WCC schedule. Hole will likely continue to recruit at a very high level. Rueck's a great coach, but if you don't have horses, you don't have em. I just don't want to be blown out for a pay day And I think that is exactly what Coach Rueck is thinking here---it is just not in OS's best interests to get blown out for a pay day especially by "Hole"! The money aspect of a WBB game is minimal. This is just stubbornness on both sides, which is monumentally stupid. The OSU fan base wants to play Oregon (and vice-versa). That's why the crowds are larger than almost any other game, at both venues. |
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Post by jackburton on May 19, 2024 14:48:48 GMT -8
And I think that is exactly what Coach Rueck is thinking here---it is just not in OS's best interests to get blown out for a pay day especially by "Hole"! The money aspect of a WBB game is minimal. This is just stubbornness on both sides, which is monumentally stupid. The OSU fan base wants to play Oregon (and vice-versa). That's why the crowds are larger than almost any other game, at both venues. I second this. Whole thing is stupid on both sides. Regardless on what the outcome 'may' be, it makes sense to play them in every sport, male or female, that each school has. Fans like the rivalry aspect of it, bragging rights, etc. |
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