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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 10, 2024 5:52:06 GMT -8
I was comparing Baz to some of.the other big home run hitters and found this gem while comparing K rates.
Baz has 26 HR and 25 K. You are literally more likely to throw him a dinger than strike him out.
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Post by rgeorge on May 10, 2024 8:31:54 GMT -8
I was comparing Baz to some of.the other big home run hitters and found this gem while comparing K rates. Baz has 26 HR and 25 K. You are literally more likely to throw him a dinger than strike him out. At 6'6", 215-220 Condon is pretty much the same... something close to 33 HRs/35 Ks, unless it changed last night vs SCar? While hitting .459 and able to play multiple positions, with a cannon arm. Caglianone beats them both and has no issue vs same sided pitching with more if his HRs in that way. has the most insane # for a stat I've ever read. First, he's at 27 HR/17 Ks, unless it changed over night?! But, power stats often use HR/FB ratio... # of HRs per flyballs hit. So Ohtani led all MLB in 2023 at 31.2%. This far in this college season Condon is at (39%), Montgomery (38.3%), and Bazzana (38.2%). Of course comparing to a MLB # is moot with bats and field size disparaties. However, in a purely D1 comparison Caglianone’s HR/FB rate is 48.2%! So basically there is a 50/50 chance that every FB is a HR. That's crazy.
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Post by 56chevy on May 10, 2024 9:45:34 GMT -8
So why would you ever...throw any of the players mentioned a fast ball. Much better to walk them in attempt to spot the breaking stuff.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 10, 2024 12:04:12 GMT -8
So why would you ever...throw any of the players mentioned a fast ball. Much better to walk them in attempt to spot the breaking stuff. Guys like this can homer on a off plate breaking ball though. It often comes down to if the scouting on the pit her is solid and they know what to expect. The only safe thing to do is intentional walk.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 10, 2024 12:10:47 GMT -8
I was comparing Baz to some of.the other big home run hitters and found this gem while comparing K rates. Baz has 26 HR and 25 K. You are literally more likely to throw him a dinger than strike him out. At 6'6", 215-220 Condon is pretty much the same... something close to 33 HRs/35 Ks, unless it changed last night vs SCar? While hitting .459 and able to play multiple positions, with a cannon arm. Caglianone beats them both and has no issue vs same sided pitching with more if his HRs in that way. has the most insane # for a stat I've ever read. First, he's at 27 HR/17 Ks, unless it changed over night?! But, power stats often use HR/FB ratio... # of HRs per flyballs hit. So Ohtani led all MLB in 2023 at 31.2%. This far in this college season Condon is at (39%), Montgomery (38.3%), and Bazzana (38.2%). Of course comparing to a MLB # is moot with bats and field size disparaties. However, in a purely D1 comparison Caglianone’s HR/FB rate is 48.2%! So basically there is a 50/50 chance that every FB is a HR. That's crazy. .That is nuts. The only thing I really see as a major difference between the three, in Travis advantage, is walks. Caglianone has 30-187, Condon has 43-185 and Baz has a silly 61-166. The injury and canceled USC game cost trav some AB or he is probably ahead of Caglianone and in striking distance of Condon...while playing mostly at Goss. If it's my money in the draft I take Caglianone since he can pitch too. That Travis is right there with the two best hitters over 6'5 in terms of power is really something.
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Post by rgeorge on May 10, 2024 12:46:27 GMT -8
At 6'6", 215-220 Condon is pretty much the same... something close to 33 HRs/35 Ks, unless it changed last night vs SCar? While hitting .459 and able to play multiple positions, with a cannon arm. Caglianone beats them both and has no issue vs same sided pitching with more if his HRs in that way. has the most insane # for a stat I've ever read. First, he's at 27 HR/17 Ks, unless it changed over night?! But, power stats often use HR/FB ratio... # of HRs per flyballs hit. So Ohtani led all MLB in 2023 at 31.2%. This far in this college season Condon is at (39%), Montgomery (38.3%), and Bazzana (38.2%). Of course comparing to a MLB # is moot with bats and field size disparaties. However, in a purely D1 comparison Caglianone’s HR/FB rate is 48.2%! So basically there is a 50/50 chance that every FB is a HR. That's crazy. .That is nuts. The only thing I really see as a major difference between the three, in Travis advantage, is walks. Caglianone has 30-187, Condon has 43-185 and Baz has a silly 61-166. The injury and canceled USC game cost trav some AB or he is probably ahead of Caglianone and in striking distance of Condon...while playing mostly at Goss. If it's my money in the draft I take Caglianone since he can pitch too. That Travis is right there with the two best hitters over 6'5 in terms of power is really something. Obviously there is tons of "beaver love" for Travis here and on national sites. But, I'm not sure any GM wants to use a Top 1, 2, maybe 3 pick on a player that has average defensive/movement ratings and a below average arm. Travis basically doesn't "project" to anything but a 2B, with a few of the other top guys more in the "build/characteristics" of top draft choices. But, GM's/ownership has their favs. Travis is obviously a 1st round talent and I'd love for him to be in the Red Sox or Giants system, but he's not lasting until #12/13! I'm not sure I'm drafting him before Condon or Caglianone, but I'm not a GM? Travis's power jump year over year is hard to project into pro ball. While a guy like Condon has been consistent 25 as a frosh, will approach 40 this year and has similar plate discipline. But, supposedly Cleveland is in love with Travis... my buddy still scouts for the Reds part time is hoping that is the case and Condon falls to the #2 pick. Also real factor these days is "price shopping". If you have multiple guys worthy of your top pick who can you sign for some savings to shift $ to other slots. Each pick among the top 10 rounds carries a slot value, and the individual amounts added together get each team’s total bonus pool. Teams are able to use that money however they like in the draft. Every pick doesn’t automatically sign for the assigned slot value, and saving under the slot value able to be moved elsewhere. The selections in rounds 11 to 20 don’t come with assigned slot values, yet $150k is the "limit". But, teams can sign players for over the $150k, with any money spent over that coming out of their bonus pool. So, if you can save "pool" money on early slots it helps teams later on. The #1/1 slot this year is just under $10.6 mil. If you can get a player to sign under that may help decide who a team selects?! It is also why college seniors that have little to no leverage sign for under-slot deals in the 5th-10th round range while other players with more leverage (underclassmen/high schoolers) will sign for larger amounts after the 10th round.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 10, 2024 12:50:51 GMT -8
.That is nuts. The only thing I really see as a major difference between the three, in Travis advantage, is walks. Caglianone has 30-187, Condon has 43-185 and Baz has a silly 61-166. The injury and canceled USC game cost trav some AB or he is probably ahead of Caglianone and in striking distance of Condon...while playing mostly at Goss. If it's my money in the draft I take Caglianone since he can pitch too. That Travis is right there with the two best hitters over 6'5 in terms of power is really something. Obviously there is tons of "beaver love" for Travis here and on national sites. But, I'm not sure any GM wants to use a Top 1, 2, maybe 3 pick on a player that has average defensive/movement ratings and a below average arm. Travis basically doesn't "project" to anything but a 2B, with a few of the other top guys more in the "build/characteristics" of top draft choices. But, GM's/ownership has their favs. Travis is obviously a 1st round talent and I'd love for him to be in the Red Sox or Giants system, but he's not lasting until #12/13! I'm not sure I'm drafting him before Condon or Caglianone, but I'm not a GM? Travis's power jump year over year is hard to project into pro ball. While a guy like Condon has been consistent 25 as a frosh, will approach 40 this year and has similar plate discipline. But, supposedly Cleveland is in love with Travis... my buddy still scouts for the Reds part time is hoping that is the case and Condon falls to the #2 pick. Also real factor these days is "price shopping". If you have multiple guys worthy of your top pick who can you sign for some savings to shift $ to other slots. Each pick among the top 10 rounds carries a slot value, and the individual amounts added together get each team’s total bonus pool. Teams are able to use that money however they like in the draft. Every pick doesn’t automatically sign for the assigned slot value, and saving under the slot value able to be moved elsewhere. The selections in rounds 11 to 20 don’t come with assigned slot values, yet $150k is the "limit". But, teams can sign players for over the $150k, with any money spent over that coming out of their bonus pool. So, if you can save "pool" money on early slots it helps teams later on. The #1/1 slot this year is just under $10.6 mil. If you can get a player to sign under that may help decide who a team selects?! It is also why college seniors that have little to no leverage sign for under-slot deals in the 5th-10th round range while other players with more leverage (underclassmen/high schoolers) will sign for larger amounts after the 10th round. One of the reasons that I do not see Condon going 1-1 or 1-2 is that he is a redshirt sophomore. He will cost more at 1-1 or 1-2 than Bazzana or Caglianone. You could probably sign either of those two underslot. That would be far less likely with Condon.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 10, 2024 16:31:17 GMT -8
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