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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 29, 2024 6:29:26 GMT -8
Seems like every season batting averages come back down to earth in conf play. And beyond that, our lineup is definitely in a bit of a funk. Hopefully we can get hot soon, and stay hot. Analytics pile up too. Krieg is a good example, he was murdering on first pitch for awhile, now pitchers throw edge of zone and he gets his first strike on a bad swing. Coaches need to adjust when guys are seining at things. To me we have a strategy that is very reliant on the umpire having a tight zone so we spend a lot of time watching strikes. That's more of an MLB approach imo. Lots of college teams swing a ton and to hell with it. I'd like to see our guys less reliant on a good ump and more reliant on making contact. At the end of the day you are only going to walk in the pitcher is bad (most of those guys are buried in the ones now) or they are forced to the edge of the zones to avoid getting hit on. We need to make pitchers scared to throw anything over the plate. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 29, 2024 6:34:56 GMT -8
Agree. Too much looking for the perfect pitch to hit over the fence and not enough looking for the pitch to make contact.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 29, 2024 8:37:18 GMT -8
Seems like every season batting averages come back down to earth in conf play. And beyond that, our lineup is definitely in a bit of a funk. Hopefully we can get hot soon, and stay hot. Analytics pile up too. Krieg is a good example, he was murdering on first pitch for awhile, now pitchers throw edge of zone and he gets his first strike on a bad swing. Coaches need to adjust when guys are seining at things. To me we have a strategy that is very reliant on the umpire having a tight zone so we spend a lot of time watching strikes. That's more of an MLB approach imo. Lots of college teams swing a ton and to hell with it. I'd like to see our guys less reliant on a good ump and more reliant on making contact. At the end of the day you are only going to walk in the pitcher is bad (most of those guys are buried in the ones now) or they are forced to the edge of the zones to avoid getting hit on. We need to make pitchers scared to throw anything over the plate. Yea, that all makes sense. Right now, seems like we are a little behind in the analytics arm race with our hitters vs opposing pitching staffs That hole pitcher yesterday was dialed, and he really killed us with his off speed stuff, which is typical of our teams. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 29, 2024 9:03:51 GMT -8
BAs do drop every year once conference play begins. And, whoa be it to anyone if you point that out when OSU is beating up inferior talent at a .335 clip or so.
Last I checked OSU is hitting about 60 points lower in conference play. That's a sizable drop.
In Pac12 play the # of Ks (181) plus FO (152... a very low GO/FO number 0.84 last in the Pac12) shows OSU doesn't make opposing defenses make a lot of pressure plays. That's 52.6% of conference AB are Ks or FO (333 of 632).
Add OSU is last in SB (8/10... only 10 total attempts with this team speed?), next to last in sac bunts. I can't remember even a handful of H&R attempts? OSU is not even pretending to move 'em up, score em. It's live or die on XBH.
Appears to be a LOT like MiLB/MLB philosophy. And, as pitching has improved it really hasn't panned out.
Oregon has good pitching, not great. And it took two career outings to win a home series because the offense is basically become a one trick pony.
How many times in a season can you count on "career" outings?
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 29, 2024 9:13:49 GMT -8
Last 3 weeks or so...this team does not have it to get to Omaha...will be luck to host a regional if it continues Please. Hosting a regional...outside of a total meltdown at this point is a lock. Going 2-3 every weekend and winning a mid-week game(like we just did) from here on out will get it done. Hosting a Super...on the left coast...is still very much a possibility. Omaha does not feel as likely as it did 2 months ago, but then again getting to Omaha is always HARD. |
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Post by badwack on Apr 29, 2024 9:17:27 GMT -8
I have a dumb question. In the "New Baseball" have they divided up the Strike Zone. Like, 6 or 8 Zone Boxes and then train these kids to only swing a balls in their "Hit Zone"? There has to be some reason soo many of these guys watch really good pitches go flying by.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 29, 2024 9:30:12 GMT -8
Last 3 weeks or so...this team does not have it to get to Omaha...will be luck to host a regional if it continues Please. Hosting a regional...outside of a total meltdown at this point is a lock. Going 2-3 every weekend and winning a mid-week game(like we just did) from here on out will get it done. Hosting a Super...on the left coast...is still very much a possibility. Omaha does not feel as likely as it did 2 months ago, but then again getting to Omaha is always HARD. Based on how this team performs at Goss, vs away, our chances to get to Omaha are exponentially higher if we are lined up to host a super. Someone on here pointed out (forget who now) a while back that the regional would be harder for us than a super, based on pitching depth. I tend to agree.....depending on what the draw is.....this Beaver team, as they currently sit, seems like a squad who could easily dominate a regional, and easily lose a regional......but that's why we love baseball, right?! |
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Post by messi on Apr 29, 2024 9:35:54 GMT -8
Please. Hosting a regional...outside of a total meltdown at this point is a lock. Going 2-3 every weekend and winning a mid-week game(like we just did) from here on out will get it done. Hosting a Super...on the left coast...is still very much a possibility. Omaha does not feel as likely as it did 2 months ago, but then again getting to Omaha is always HARD. Based on how this team performs at Goss, vs away, our chances to get to Omaha are exponentially higher if we are lined up to host a super. Someone on here pointed out (forget who now) a while back that the regional would be harder for us than a super, based on pitching depth. I tend to agree.....depending on what the draw is.....this Beaver team, as they currently sit, seems like a squad who could easily dominate a regional, and easily lose a regional......but that's why we love baseball, right?! Gotta win a minimum 3 games to win a regional, and that's where having an good Sunday starter comes in. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 29, 2024 9:35:58 GMT -8
I have a dumb question. In the "New Baseball" have they divided up the Strike Zone. Like, 6 or 8 Zone Boxes and then train these kids to only swing a balls in their "Hit Zone"? There has to be some reason soo many of these guys watch really good pitches go flying by. not dumb at all, you are on to something. I talked to a hitter coach about sort of the same thing. We talked about the “looking for your pitch ahead in the count” he finds that a lot of hitters make their sweet spot so small that they never take advantage of a plus count. If you are looking at the size of a tuna can you rarely get “your pitch “ , should be dinner plate or pizza pan size in order to take advantage of the count. It seems a lot of our hitters let the pitcher back in the count without ever swinging the bat |
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Post by lebaneaver on Apr 29, 2024 10:01:58 GMT -8
I have a dumb question. In the "New Baseball" have they divided up the Strike Zone. Like, 6 or 8 Zone Boxes and then train these kids to only swing a balls in their "Hit Zone"? There has to be some reason soo many of these guys watch really good pitches go flying by. not dumb at all, you are on to something. I talked to a hitter coach about sort of the same thing. We talked about the “looking for your pitch ahead in the count” he finds that a lot of hitters make their sweet spot so small that they never take advantage of a plus count. If you are looking at the size of a tuna can you rarely get “your pitch “ , should be dinner plate or pizza pan size in order to take advantage of the count. It seems a lot of our hitters let the pitcher back in the count without ever swinging the bat Chicks dig the long ball…….🫤 |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 29, 2024 10:54:57 GMT -8
Based on how this team performs at Goss, vs away, our chances to get to Omaha are exponentially higher if we are lined up to host a super. Someone on here pointed out (forget who now) a while back that the regional would be harder for us than a super, based on pitching depth. I tend to agree.....depending on what the draw is.....this Beaver team, as they currently sit, seems like a squad who could easily dominate a regional, and easily lose a regional......but that's why we love baseball, right?! Gotta win a minimum 3 games to win a regional, and that's where having an good Sunday starter comes in. Segura was a little shaky. I think he's the future, but I'm not super confident with him starting in the post season right now. Be nice if Hunter shows he's back in form. Is Lattery ever coming back? |
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Post by badwack on Apr 29, 2024 11:00:57 GMT -8
Makes me crazy watching very good pitches being taken with runners on. Note, what happened when Trosky tapped a ball toward SS. They could not make the play.
With all the Data now available I sure could understand being able to identify what area of the Strike Zone produces the most contact of each hitter. % of Contract for each zone then trying to teach hitters to select only those pitches. I am guessing the Pitching Report now have all that info.
There is something to be said about walking up to the plate and hitting the first darn pitch. Cal did a job on us doing just that!
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