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Post by hottubbeaver on Apr 24, 2024 11:05:32 GMT -8
8th place ASU is only 4.5 games behind current leader UofA. Past the midway point and there's a lot of teams still in striking distance. Who will get hot down the stretch, who will fight, scratch, and claw their way to the top? Looks to be a good battle brewing and may come down to the final weekend and game before it's settled.
The eyeball test tells me several teams have improved substantially since the start of the season and as a result the conference and competition is better than the perception due to early season results in nonconference play.
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Post by beaverphd on Apr 24, 2024 14:50:49 GMT -8
In D1 baseballs latest field of 64 projections they had both OSU and Arizona hosting regionals and Utah, Cal, and the ucks getting in as 3 seeds. Five pac-12 teams getting in is pretty average or slightly above average right?
The conference may be stronger than we originally thought
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Post by messi on Apr 25, 2024 6:47:33 GMT -8
In D1 baseballs latest field of 64 projections they had both OSU and Arizona hosting regionals and Utah, Cal, and the ucks getting in as 3 seeds. Five pac-12 teams getting in is pretty average or slightly above average right? The conference may be stronger than we originally thought Five seems like average. However among the five, one would usually have been a top 8, and at least one of those who have to travel would have been rated a #2 seed in a regional. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 25, 2024 7:33:50 GMT -8
I'd take that with a huge grain of salt. That list has 6 SEC hosts. It's extremely unlikely they backslide from the 8 hosts and 11 playoff teams they had last year.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 25, 2024 22:57:29 GMT -8
I'd take that with a huge grain of salt. That list has 6 SEC hosts. It's extremely unlikely they backslide from the 8 hosts and 11 playoff teams they had last year. Last year's Tournament was a freaking joke. It is not how the Tournament should ever look again. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Apr 26, 2024 14:58:52 GMT -8
No one cares about the future P12 race. Win out and be as high a seed as possible. Added bonus if we win A P12 but in reality other than a couple flags hanging around the field do we really remember/care about conference championships?
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Post by RenoBeaver on Apr 27, 2024 14:59:00 GMT -8
No one cares about the future P12 race. Win out and be as high a seed as possible. Added bonus if we win A P12 but in reality other than a couple flags hanging around the field do we really remember/care about conference championships? I do. Last year of the conference as we know it? I'd love to go out as champions. |
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Post by ftd on Apr 29, 2024 15:29:34 GMT -8
Remaining Series by current P12 Leaders
Utes @ *ucks; vs UA; @$C
'cats: vs 'furd; @ Utes; vs Beavs
Beavs : @ Cougs, vs fUCLA, @ 'cats
*ucks :vs Utes;@puppies; vs Cougs
ToeJams : vs Kal; @ Cougs; vs Utes
Looks to me on paper like the Beavs and the *ucks have the easiest path, Utah and UA has a tough row to hoe. ToeJams win two more losses than Utes and Cats have a tough path
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Post by hottubbeaver on Apr 29, 2024 16:06:54 GMT -8
Remaining Series by current P12 Leaders Utes @ *ucks; vs UA; @$C 'cats: vs 'furd; @ Utes; vs Beavs Beavs : @ Cougs, vs fUCLA, @ 'cats *ucks :vs Utes;@puppies; vs Cougs ToeJams : vs Kal; @ Cougs; vs Utes Looks to me on paper like the Beavs and the *ucks have the easiest path, Utah and UA has a tough row to hoe. ToeJams win two more losses than Utes and Cats have a tough path We've not fared well @ Arizona in recent years (the whole damn state). Usually good opponents, heat, dry air, hard surfaces, etc... whatever the reason/s would be nice to resolve that issue this final conference season. Ducks' road trip to UW looks quite a bit different today than it did a few weeks back and UU will be a tough series for them too. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 29, 2024 16:26:53 GMT -8
Remaining Series by current P12 Leaders Utes @ *ucks; vs UA; @$C 'cats: vs 'furd; @ Utes; vs Beavs Beavs : @ Cougs, vs fUCLA, @ 'cats *ucks :vs Utes;@puppies; vs Cougs ToeJams : vs Kal; @ Cougs; vs Utes Looks to me on paper like the Beavs and the *ucks have the easiest path, Utah and UA has a tough row to hoe. ToeJams win two more losses than Utes and Cats have a tough path Don't count out Stanford. The Cardinal finished the season 9-0 in 2022 to win the Pac-12 by a game over Oregon State. The Cardinal finished the season 8-1 to win the Pac-12 in 2023. Stanford: @ Arizona; vs. Arizona State; @ UCLA Utah plays the third-, first-, and fourth-best teams (other than themselves) in the Pac-12. Tough. Arizona plays the fifth-,first, and second-best teams (other than themselves) in the Pac-12. Almost as tough. The worst records to win the Pac-12 in the past eight seasons (i.e. since the Utah debacle in 2016) were Arizona's 21-9 in 2021 and Stanford's 21-9 in 2022. Oregon State would have to win out to better those records. 2022 Stanford was sitting at 12-9 at this point of the season two years ago before going 22-2 into Omaha. Utah won the Pac-12 at 19-11 but started 13-8, going 6-3 over the final nine to win the Pac-12. The only other team in Pac-12 history to win the Pac-12 and finish worse than 21-9 was UCLA in 2012, 20-10. The Bruins were 12-9, 31-12 after 43 games. UCLA won eight of nine to win the Pac-12 at 20-10. It should be noted that, although UCLA won the Pac-12, Arizona tied UCLA for the Pac-12 Championship, losing on tiebreakers. Arizona would end up beating UCLA in Omaha 4-0 en route to a National Championship. The Wildcats started 13-8 before finishing 7-2 and allowing UCLA to win the Pac-12 Championship. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 29, 2024 16:32:33 GMT -8
Remaining Series by current P12 Leaders Utes @ *ucks; vs UA; @$C 'cats: vs 'furd; @ Utes; vs Beavs Beavs : @ Cougs, vs fUCLA, @ 'cats *ucks :vs Utes;@puppies; vs Cougs ToeJams : vs Kal; @ Cougs; vs Utes Looks to me on paper like the Beavs and the *ucks have the easiest path, Utah and UA has a tough row to hoe. ToeJams win two more losses than Utes and Cats have a tough path We've not fared well @ Arizona in recent years (the whole damn state). Usually good opponents, heat, dry air, hard surfaces, etc... whatever the reason/s would be nice to resolve that issue this final conference season. Ducks' road trip to UW looks quite a bit different today than it did a few weeks back and UU will be a tough series for them too. The Beavs went 3-2 in Scottsdale in 2022. Oregon State also won series in Phoenix in 2017 and 2019. The Beavs have also historically done well in Surprise and at GCU. That said, Oregon State has not won a series in Tucson since 2014. |
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 29, 2024 16:58:08 GMT -8
We've not fared well @ Arizona in recent years (the whole damn state). Usually good opponents, heat, dry air, hard surfaces, etc... whatever the reason/s would be nice to resolve that issue this final conference season. Ducks' road trip to UW looks quite a bit different today than it did a few weeks back and UU will be a tough series for them too. The Beavs went 3-2 in Scottsdale in 2022. Oregon State also won series in Phoenix in 2017 and 2019. The Beavs have also historically done well in Surprise and at GCU. That said, Oregon State has not won a series in Tucson since 2014. Surprise, (unfortunately) is a non-factor as: a.) it's in February... and, b.) it's been awhile since a quality opponent showed up there. The UA series looms HUGE. UA has not lost a home PAC-12 game since March 16 (7-0 at Hi-Corbett in Conference since then) . At present it's surely 'advantage' UA to win the PAC-12 regular season. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 29, 2024 17:23:33 GMT -8
The Beavs went 3-2 in Scottsdale in 2022. Oregon State also won series in Phoenix in 2017 and 2019. The Beavs have also historically done well in Surprise and at GCU. That said, Oregon State has not won a series in Tucson since 2014. Surprise, (unfortunately) is a non-factor as: a.) it's in February... and, b.) it's been awhile since a quality opponent showed up there. The UA series looms HUGE. UA has not lost a home PAC-12 game since March 16 (7-0 at Hi-Corbett in Conference since then) . At present it's surely 'advantage' UA to win the PAC-12 regular season. I say that Oregon State has not beat Arizona in Tucson since 2014, but that was March 28-30. The last time that Oregon State beat Arizona in Tucson later was 2011, April 1-3. 2009 was April 9-11. 2009 remains the Beavs' latest series win in Tucson in program history. Arizona has to get by Utah in Salt Lake City before playing Oregon State, which is no gimme. Utah, in turn, has to get by Oregon this weekend in Eugene, which is also no gimme. Oregon State, on the other hand has lost four straight road games and six of the last seven on the road. The Beavs need to buck those trends starting tomorrow, or Arizona will be the least of Oregon State's problems. A lot of baseball left to play. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Apr 30, 2024 12:08:08 GMT -8
We've not fared well @ Arizona in recent years (the whole damn state). Usually good opponents, heat, dry air, hard surfaces, etc... whatever the reason/s would be nice to resolve that issue this final conference season. Ducks' road trip to UW looks quite a bit different today than it did a few weeks back and UU will be a tough series for them too. The Beavs went 3-2 in Scottsdale in 2022. Oregon State also won series in Phoenix in 2017 and 2019. The Beavs have also historically done well in Surprise and at GCU. That said, Oregon State has not won a series in Tucson since 2014. The UA series from a couple years ago, ASU last year, along with the P12 tourney ucla game were mainly what what's burned into my "recent" memory. Surprise is a bit different given it's usually not in the 100's yet, it was a near perfect 75 this year. The ball plays a lot faster off the ground a few months later.... |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 30, 2024 14:41:04 GMT -8
The Beavs went 3-2 in Scottsdale in 2022. Oregon State also won series in Phoenix in 2017 and 2019. The Beavs have also historically done well in Surprise and at GCU. That said, Oregon State has not won a series in Tucson since 2014. The UA series from a couple years ago, ASU last year, along with the P12 tourney ucla game were mainly what what's burned into my "recent" memory. Surprise is a bit different given it's usually not in the 100's yet, it was a near perfect 75 this year. The ball plays a lot faster off the ground a few months later.... Surprise is a completely different field with modern geo engineering for the field and drainage. It is also a regular MLB Spring Training site that gets first class maintenance. Hi Corbett is a late 1930's field that has had some renewals down, but is a completely different base and plays like asphalt year round. It also does not appear to get the best of field maintenance. If you are down there early for a series and golf next door I was amazed at the lackadaisical work being done after practices. Phoenix muni is about the same but a 1960's build. Although a better surface that Hi Corbett is is still a different base and upkeep is not done by high level MiLB/MLB ground crews. I'll also assume since it was the A's old facility it was not built to a high standard?? Scottsdale is a far better venue as far as the field plays, but still very different than playing on turf. OSU's D should be far better than it has been with all the games it plays on synthetic surfaces. |
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