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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 16, 2024 18:00:35 GMT -8
Comparing a DIII Championship to a DI championship is apples to oranges. He’s not won a championship at this level. That's not the point, it's the fact that winning it didn't do anything for him. He's about the voyage and not the destination. Well, he better have a boat that can handle some rough seas. |
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Post by beavdowg on Apr 17, 2024 5:26:59 GMT -8
I’ll take the paragraph recommendations and work to do better next time. I will admit, this forum tends to cater more to my stream of consciousness than worrying about proper composition. But, it seems as though you all got the jist of my point(s). Cheers!
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Post by 411500 on Apr 17, 2024 6:32:03 GMT -8
I think the comments about your paragraphs were merely intended to draw attention to how your observations could be made more understandable to the reader.
I'm not a syntax freak, but I do appreciate clarity when reading someone's viewpoint. Paragraph breaks allow for shorter, more concise statements.
A rough parallel exists when you ask someone to slow down their speech. "Hey, if you talk slower I can understand you better."
Stream of consciousness speaking is par for the course. Stream of consciousness writing is rarely effective for communicating essential points.
At least that's how I see it.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by escott58 on Apr 17, 2024 7:14:29 GMT -8
I think the comments about your paragraphs were merely intended to draw attention to how your observations could be made more understandable to the reader. I'm not a syntax freak, but I do appreciate clarity when reading someone's viewpoint. Paragraph breaks allow for shorter, more concise statements. A rough parallel exists when you ask someone to slow down their speech. "Hey, if you talk slower I can understand you better." Stream of consciousness speaking is par for the course. Stream of consciousness writing is rarely effective for communicating essential points. At least that's how I see it. GO BEAVS!! This is a good reminder for me as I'm (very) prone to not explaining the object of my discourse. My wife can fill in the missing words (unless she can't!). As for paragraphs, these old eyes have trouble finding where I last read. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 17, 2024 8:41:56 GMT -8
Didn't realize I stepped into an English 101 class.
I'm gonna keep my crystal ball prediction shorter, and to the point......s%#tty grammar still though.
If Rueck stays, I think the Beavs get back to the dance within 2, or 3 years. That teams ceiling would be to win a game or two in the tourney.
If Rueck is not running it.......who frickin knows!?
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Post by 93beav on Apr 17, 2024 8:49:48 GMT -8
Didn't realize I stepped into an English 101 class. I'm gonna keep my crystal ball prediction shorter, and to the point......s%#tty grammar still though. If Rueck stays, I think the Beavs get back to the dance within 2, or 3 years. That teams ceiling would be to win a game or two in the tourney. If Rueck is not running it.......who frickin knows!? The thing I wonder about is the appeal once we're in the WCC. What do we offer that, say, Gonzaga doesn't offer? I think the biggest thing we have is a large community supportive of the product and Gill - when it's mostly full - as compared to some of the other relative stadiums. Yeah, we have Rueck, but I don't know if his draw is personality or success? I guess we also have the oppt that we might move back into a P4 conference at some point. 2 years seems a bit aggressive given the severity of the loss. 3 years, maybe? I guess we'll see when the transfer portal period concludes. I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 17, 2024 9:16:00 GMT -8
"I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying."
Me too!
Are they contract-bound to stay at OSU?
Would also like to hear something from Rees.
Eventually Rueck must make some kind of announcement about the program. Maybe he is waiting for the first transfer.
Maybe he's waiting for someone to talk him down off the ledge.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 17, 2024 9:28:23 GMT -8
"I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying." Me too! Are they contract-bound to stay at OSU? Would also like to hear something from Rees. Eventually Rueck must make some kind of announcement about the program. Maybe he is waiting for the first transfer. Maybe he's waiting for someone to talk him down off the ledge. GO BEAVS!! He must? Why? That won't accomplish anything. He didn't make a statement after Brown, Jones and the rest left 2 years ago. |
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 17, 2024 10:10:05 GMT -8
"I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying." Me too! Are they contract-bound to stay at OSU? Would also like to hear something from Rees. Eventually Rueck must make some kind of announcement about the program. Maybe he is waiting for the first transfer. Maybe he's waiting for someone to talk him down off the ledge. GO BEAVS!! He must? Why? That won't accomplish anything. He didn't make a statement after Brown, Jones and the rest left 2 years ago. Agree - Rueck tends to focus on the positive, and there's not much he can say other than talk about who is still there, and who new is coming in. With 'who is still here' being still in flux, even talking about that is problematic. He could come on and rip those that left, but that is both not his style no a good idea. He could rip the system that works against OSU all, but he already did that. So I don't expect to hear from him at all until what this team looks like next year is pretty settled. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 17, 2024 10:29:32 GMT -8
"I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying." Me too! Are they contract-bound to stay at OSU?Would also like to hear something from Rees. Eventually Rueck must make some kind of announcement about the program. Maybe he is waiting for the first transfer. Maybe he's waiting for someone to talk him down off the ledge. GO BEAVS!! Is there any "contract-bound" coaches? Assistants are typically on a 1 or 2 years deal. Most have no buyout or payoff if they choose to leave. Most have little added incentives and why many assistants are vagabonds constantly looking for upgrades to enhance their career. The younger they are the more likely they are to leave for any job that may lead to a HC gig. So, in simple terms the assistants at OSU are not bound in anyway to stay put. Of the key on court staff... Jonas has been a D1 assistant for about 20 years... unless he received some attractive offer to be a HC in a place he really liked, I do not see him leaving. But, he is originally from SLC and previously worked in Utah and Colorado. So if staying in a P4 position is important he could leave for a spot near his roots?? Deven and Aleah are youngsters in the profession and unless there is some personal reason (move for a relationship, etc.) neither one is ready for a HC, nor really a lead assistant/associate HC role. And, I'm not sure they could find a more comfortable spot in which to learn before leaving. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 17, 2024 10:31:06 GMT -8
Didn't realize I stepped into an English 101 class. I'm gonna keep my crystal ball prediction shorter, and to the point......s%#tty grammar still though. If Rueck stays, I think the Beavs get back to the dance within 2, or 3 years. That teams ceiling would be to win a game or two in the tourney. If Rueck is not running it.......who frickin knows!? The thing I wonder about is the appeal once we're in the WCC. What do we offer that, say, Gonzaga doesn't offer? I think the biggest thing we have is a large community supportive of the product and Gill - when it's mostly full - as compared to some of the other relative stadiums. Yeah, we have Rueck, but I don't know if his draw is personality or success? I guess we also have the oppt that we might move back into a P4 conference at some point. 2 years seems a bit aggressive given the severity of the loss. 3 years, maybe? I guess we'll see when the transfer portal period concludes. I'd also like to hear if our assistant coaches are staying. Corvallis is a nice clean college town. Spokane is a dump.....so there's that. |
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Post by greybeav on Apr 17, 2024 20:14:52 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 17, 2024 20:43:54 GMT -8
paragraphs Hear! Hear! Ok, now that I'm feeling myself slightly less disgusted with the recent happenings, perhaps grown a bit apathetic, defeated, I'm finding my thoughts going to what's next. This is how I see the next 2-4 years looking. And, I'd probably almost bet on it. Knowing what SR has done HIS ENTIRE COACHING CAREER, how he's built championship teams from little to nothing, I fully expect that he'll do it again. I just bet that he will find some girls in this transfer portal and recruiting cycle that can compete in the WCC and he'll put together a decent team this year. I'm really not that impressed with Heidi (sp?) as anything but a defensive shot changer and what's left right now isn't too terribly exciting but Schuler is a spark plug and will work her rear end off on defense and I bet will develop an offensive game that will be successful in the WCC. Reese will rediscover her game that made her an asset at Utah and AJ will blossom into a threat. This is all at a WCC level, mind you. I think this next season we'll be pretty competitive with just about everyone in the WCC other than Gonzaga. Not that we won't compete with them I just think they'll win those games this season. We'll probably take our licks in our OOC games just because of our lack of talent. But by the end of this season we'll finish in the top half to 1/4 of the WCC. SR's coaching acumen is simply a step above most of the other coaches in the WCC so his game planning/scheming alone will put us at an advantage. Then he'll get another recruiting cycle in and improve our talent a little more, again we're talking at the WCC level. I bet by year 2 in the WCC we're playing for the WCC championship, perhaps even has us back in the dance. SR is that good, we've all seen it. Now here is where I foresee the fork in the road. The program will go one of two ways after the next 2 years. Route 1-OSU gets taken in by a P4 conference (Big 12 or ACC) and Rueck decides to stay and rebuild his program and alma mater back to deep tournament run levels as he's done twice already. Because we're in a P4 conference, at that point, SR will be committed to finishing his career out and taking OSU as far as he can and we'll have a conference to attract better than WCC talent again. Will it be the same 4* and 5* recruits that we've had before? Not sure about that because at that point they'll probably be 2 major conferences that will attract the top level of talent. We will be happy Beaver fans because we're relevant again and hopefully talking about a better MBB coach by then with some program growth to show for. Now for Route 2- We DON'T get taken in by a P4 conference and Rueck says "The hell with this! I love OSU with all my heart but I want to see how high on the mountain I can get a team. I can't do that coming from the WCC in the current college conference landscape. Thank you OSU for giving me the opportunity to become the coach I am today. You gave me the chance I needed. I am forever grateful! This isn't OSU's fault at all, it's what's happened to college athletics." And we watch as major programs (UConn 'cause Auriemma retires, Tennessee 'cause that hire didn't work out, Stanford 'cause that hire didn't work out and they're now in a real conference, etc.) lure him to resurrect their once great programs or keep the greatness going. He goes on to have multiple F4 runs and maybe even finally gets into the championship game. None of us blame him for a second because he gave us a couple extra years to get our sh%t together and get in a real conference but it didn't happen. He deserves better and he didn't sign up for what he was dealt. We become a WCC athletic program for the foreseeable future and it's OSU's new unfortunate reality. We all remain HUGE Scott Rueck fans because he was the GREATEST coach, regardless of sport, that OSU has ever had. That's what'll keep me interested in this saga for the next few years. Sit back, let's see what happens. Go Beavs! A readable post, in the style of the old Minneapolis Star &Tribune. Paragraphs of copy, followed by a double-space before the next paragraph. Like this. So easy to read. Sid Hartman and Joe Soucheray would approve. |
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Post by grad1973 on Apr 18, 2024 17:28:20 GMT -8
. FOR SEVERAL YEARS RUMORS WERE ON THE HORRIZON ABOUT THE SHAKEY PICTURE WITH OUR CONFERENCE.
I WOULD NOT BE SUPRISED IF RUECK LOSES THE OSU LUSTER. HE CAN COACH D-1 iI PREDICT HE WILL END UP PRESSURED BY GOOD D-1 COLLEGES TO MOVE ON. IT IS NOT HIS JOB TO SAVAGE THIS MESS.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 18, 2024 18:06:00 GMT -8
. FOR SEVERAL YEARS RUMORS WERE ON THE HORRIZON ABOUT THE SHAKEY PICTURE WITH OUR CONFERENCE. I WOULD NOT BE SUPRISED IF RUECK LOSES THE OSU LUSTER. HE CAN COACH D-1 iI PREDICT HE WILL END UP PRESSURED BY GOOD D-1 COLLEGES TO MOVE ON. IT IS NOT HIS JOB TO SAVAGE THIS MESS. Savage Horrizon's (suprisingly), always leave a mess. |
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