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Post by 411500 on Apr 14, 2024 8:17:02 GMT -8
From the question I ask you will be able to tell that I don't understand NIL very well.
So, maybe someone can help me with this.
The Beavs are trying to locate good players for next year's roster.
Can an NIL group representing Oregon State contact the parents of Good Player "A" and ask them if their daughter might be interested in an NIL deal with OSU.
If parents say "Yes", can she then learn about the offer, enter the portal, and then transfer to OSU?
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Mainly I'm trying to learn how a program (OSU) makes an overture to "Good Player A" when she is not currently in the portal.
Or, do NIL offers only come after a player has entered the portal?
Thanks for your help.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by TheGlove on Apr 14, 2024 8:18:27 GMT -8
From the question I ask you will be able to tell I don't understand NIL very well. So, maybe someone can help me with this. The Beavs are trying to locate good players for next year's roster. Can an NIL group representing Oregon State contact the parents of Good Player "A" and ask them if their daughter might be interested in an NIL deal with OSU. If parents say "Yes", can she then enter the portal, have further discussions with OSU, and then transfer to OSU? -------------------------- Mainly I'm trying to learn how a program (OSU) makes an overture to "Good Player A" when she is not currently in the portal. Or, do NIL offers only come after a player has entered the portal? Thanks for your help. GO BEAVS!! I think the rules and what is actually happening are two different things. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 14, 2024 8:57:39 GMT -8
TheGlove - thanks. What you say is likely true.
Perhaps you could give me a brief summary of the rules. And then a brief summary of what is actually happening?
As I say, I'm basically trying to learn how OSU makes an overture to a player they want to transfer in. Thanks.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by hkronini on Apr 14, 2024 9:04:08 GMT -8
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Post by ag87 on Apr 14, 2024 10:07:30 GMT -8
Times have changed and it's crazy. Give or take in 1982, Charlie Sitton worked on a fishing boat in the Bering Sea one summer. He made quite a bit of money for the times. Maybe 25K. The NCAA got involved, I guess, because it appeared to be pay for play. At the end of the day, nothing happened regarding punishment. Back then it was difficult for a player to even have a job because of issues like this. Now a booster promises $400K for wearing the uniform and all is ok.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 14, 2024 10:35:05 GMT -8
Scanned, but didn't see two important components that are nationwide... - NIL deals can't be offered to induce a signing. A signed athlete can enter into negotiations. This might be the aspect broken most; - athletes can't enter into any NIL deal with an individual booster that is not "pooling" $ within a business or collective. Also pretty difficult to separate in many cases. But, donors are not supposed to be able to direct their donations and the contract is to state what "work" is to be provided. Both pretty weak attempts to stop "pay for play" which everyone knows is exactly what NIL is! And, is no where near what the original lawsuit was b about and has morphed into. As I've stated before it's another way schools like OSU can't keep up with the Jones. That the rich benefit and those that were having trouble finding unethical means to recruit now have an open door. |
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 14, 2024 11:24:52 GMT -8
From the question I ask you will be able to tell I don't understand NIL very well. So, maybe someone can help me with this. The Beavs are trying to locate good players for next year's roster. Can an NIL group representing Oregon State contact the parents of Good Player "A" and ask them if their daughter might be interested in an NIL deal with OSU. If parents say "Yes", can she then enter the portal, have further discussions with OSU, and then transfer to OSU? -------------------------- Mainly I'm trying to learn how a program (OSU) makes an overture to "Good Player A" when she is not currently in the portal. Or, do NIL offers only come after a player has entered the portal? Thanks for your help. GO BEAVS!! I think the rules and what is actually happening are two different things. ie, don't waste your time trying to find out what the rules are. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 14, 2024 13:20:33 GMT -8
I think the rules and what is actually happening are two different things. ie, don't waste your time trying to find out what the rules are. Agreed - the Golden rule is in effect - "they who have the gold make the rules"..... There is too much money involved now for NCAA sports to remain true to the spirit we all try to associate with them (and maybe it was always a bit of a con job). Gambling, TV networks, coaches' salaries, boosters, wealthy alumni, corporate interests, lavish facility projects etc. have all sullied the concept that "gifted athletes can gain a valuable education" - and note, I think the socio-political landscape has also shifted generationally - delayed gratification, value of education, the notion of middle class "enough"........ I remember a computer poster from the 1980s that had a law on it: Zymurgy's first law of evolving system dynamics, which went: "Once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is to use a larger can." We need a REALLY BIG can right now for sports loosely associated with educational institutions right about now. Go Beavers! |
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Post by hoopheritic on Apr 19, 2024 18:01:53 GMT -8
The NCAA lost a case a few months ago arguing that athletes could not engage NIL collectives until signing. Now, once an athlete is released, they can engage with NIL collectives to hear their terms. Same goes for players looking to sign while in high school.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 19, 2024 21:53:01 GMT -8
I think an interesting study can be made of how Memphis teams do in the coming years.
Their NIL has $25M over 5 years to work with from FedEx for football and men's/women's basketball (and other women sports). Does this buy the talent necessary for them to become more competitive in each sport?
Since this is a WBB forum - this past season Google tells me they were 9-9 and 13-17 in the AAC.
(MBB 11-7/22-10, Football 10-3, won Liberty Bowl over Iowa St)
Will they win instant success in any sport? Football seemed to be nearing a high water mark anyway.....What does "success" mean now? I suspect there are other deep pockets in Memphis area, and you just need a couple outstanding purchases in WBB to flip the switch. Can they buy those players this year?
I also suspect they want to create enough success to get to a more major conference than AAC, and FedEx wants its employees to have entertaining sports to watch and maybe pick up some brand representatives early and appealing to the younger demographics.
Next question - does Uncle Phil endow uo with a huge NIL slush fund sometime soon as well?? I suspect that is coming soon......or maybe will happen on the down-low - does it have to be reported?
Good times, let the NIL experiment begin!
Go Beavers!
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