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Post by 996648 on May 5, 2024 17:22:05 GMT -8
That leaves Dom and Marta still unannounced
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 5, 2024 23:48:59 GMT -8
That leaves Dom and Marta still unannounced Would be interesting to see if there are other foreign players in the transfer portal, and what kind of timeline they have been on to land at a new school..... Just wondering if it might take a while for them to say something about their new landing spots due to their visa and/or inability to earn money in this country from direct NIL collective agreements. The US chapter of the Exodus 8, all 6 of them, have landed.... Go Beavers!
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Post by beavs6 on May 6, 2024 7:26:34 GMT -8
That leaves Dom and Marta still unannounced Would be interesting to see if there are other foreign players in the transfer portal, and what kind of timeline they have been on to land at a new school..... Just wondering if it might take a while for them to say something about their new landing spots due to their visa and/or inability to earn money in this country from direct NIL collective agreements. The US chapter of the Exodus 8, all 6 of them, have landed.... Go Beavers! Yep. Just really sucks. Sigh...
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Post by justheretoread on May 6, 2024 7:59:08 GMT -8
I am onboard with players making moves when it is legitimately in their best interest. What I find frustrating with the women, is it seems several of them are making moves that are perhaps NOT in their best interests solely for the sake of conference affiliation. Schools like TCU, Iowa State…even Oklahoma are arguably steps back from a program prospective. It reminds me of the many times in my career where I’ve seen young people leave my established, well paying company for lesser pay and a “title” at a different company.
Having said that, I acknowledge that every situation is different and other factors (playing time, team dynamics, offensive gameplays, etc) influence the decision. Its just frustrating seeing some of these moves that, on their face, look like poor decisions. I guess time will tell…
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Post by fridaynightlights on May 6, 2024 8:48:22 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making?
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Post by escott58 on May 6, 2024 8:58:36 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? That's a good question. I'd probably think twice about their commitment level. It does make me think of the old song, "You Picked a Fine Time to Leave Me Lucille "
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Post by fridaynightlights on May 6, 2024 10:03:04 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? That's a good question. I'd probably think twice about their commitment level. It does make me think of the old song, "You Picked a Fine Time to Leave Me Lucille " The problem is, that if we use past norms of commitment in today's society, not many would qualify as committed. Somewhat related I am in the early stages of reading a book titled: The Impulse Society: America in the age of instant gratification, by Paul Roberts. So far it is interesting.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 6, 2024 10:23:08 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? Probly not. But, we are not in that position, and likely never will be. Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference.
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Post by standerd on May 6, 2024 10:41:22 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? Probly not. But, we are not in that position, and likely never will be. Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference. Seeing as 6 of the 8 have now dispersed each to separate teams, I think it possible that they didn’t actually internalize what they could achieve by staying together! And now we’ll never know.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2024 10:42:17 GMT -8
"Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference."
Maryland,2021-2022, Angel Reese soph year. National ranking #4. Lost to Stanford second round (Maybe) 5 player hit the portal next day after loss. Reese told coach she was staying but left for LSU by afternoon. 3 more, graduated, or quit. Anyway at seasons end she had two players left.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 6, 2024 10:45:58 GMT -8
"Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference." Maryland,2021-2022, Angel Reese soph year. National ranking #4. Lost to Stanford second round (Maybe) 5 player hit the portal next day after loss. Reese told coach she was staying but left for LSU by afternoon. 3 more, graduated, or quit. Anyway at seasons end she had two players left. Yea that sounds s%#tty......but, not apples to apples. Maryland is in the B1G, and did not get relegated. They did not lose a big part of their draw to be able to attract top level talent like we did.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 6, 2024 10:58:57 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? Probly not. But, we are not in that position, and likely never will be. Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference. The only comparison to be drawn is likely with Washington State - and sadly a similar scenario (or worse) is playing out over there - MBB/WBB/Football players transferring, successful coaches finding "better"/P4 jobs, the AD bolting in a real gut-punch to the sister school that helped seal the doom. And I don't know if even WSU indulged in the "we are family" or "success built not bought" sort of branding that we have been emphasizing recently. Will be interesting to see how well WSU/OSU can come back from these body blows. The next two years are certainly somewhat transitory, but to what form of future state? The Exodus 8 were staring at living basically 10% of their lives navigating all this uncertainty that they didn't sign up for, and so they bailed. Us alumni and lifelong fans don't have that luxury. I think what is disquieting is the level of loyalty that we are finding exists among the participants in this arena - but I think at the end of the day the idealized view of college sports is colliding with business. And business is carrying the day, and if this is all just a business - should we expect loyalty? And should we take it personal when someone makes a "business decision"? Go Beavers!
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Post by 02beav on May 6, 2024 11:09:20 GMT -8
Everybody tells these kids that it’s a business and to view their relationships with coaches as transactional because that’s how their coaches view them. For example, go there and play as expected or better, coach treats you well. Go and underperform, coach starts hoping you leave and treating you accordingly.
I think as college sports fans, our best bet is to root for the team each year and get attached to nobody. Otherwise, you’ll be upset a lot.
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Post by grayman on May 6, 2024 11:45:53 GMT -8
So lets say another program was in the same situation as OSU is in now and lost 8 of its best players to the portal on a team that looked like a potential final 4 team next season and these players were transferring to Oregon State. Would people on this site be talking about what poor decisions they were making? Probly not. But, we are not in that position, and likely never will be. Can anyone think of another situation like this? It's pretty unique with the portal, NIL, and us being relegated to a lesser conference. There never has been and probably never will be in the future. We're talking an Elite Eight team at a school that is dropping from what was (arguably) the best college women's basketball conference to the WCC. We can all point our fingers at the NIL and transfer portal but those just made for an easy out for the eight players. Again, Beers could have left last offseason. Gardiner could have left last offseason. TVO could have left last offseason. Etc. One major change happened. I think there might have been something else as well but unless the players actually come out with some concrete statements, we'll probably never know for sure. And then there are additional issues like playing time that factored into some decisions.
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Post by fridaynightlights on May 6, 2024 11:48:11 GMT -8
Everybody tells these kids that it’s a business and to view their relationships with coaches as transactional because that’s how their coaches view them. For example, go there and play as expected or better, coach treats you well. Go and underperform, coach starts hoping you leave and treating you accordingly. I think as college sports fans, our best bet is to root for the team each year and get attached to nobody. Otherwise, you’ll be upset a lot. Agreed. It is probably best, especially in basketball to assume when a player comes to OSU that it is for one season. If they end up staying for more, it is icing on the cake. Assuming a multiple year commitment is setting ones self-up for disappointment.
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