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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 11, 2024 12:43:45 GMT -8
Krieg definitely needs to be the DH going forward. Trosky had a great series but we need Hainline to get going if we are going to make a run this year. This team is built off of offense and the best bats need to be in the lineup. I just wouldn’t look too far into this series. Yes, I’ll admit from a team perspective CSUN was definitely not scared to play us. They played with energy and were a scrappy bunch. They are probably a middle of the pack Big West team at best. The arms they threw against us were definitely below average. Tons of walks and not a single one of their arms had a swing and miss pitch. That’s why I stated the runners we left on base scared me a little. The pitching is the pitching. We’ve thrown a lot of guys to figure stuff out. Kmatz and Segura will be fine but need May back in that Friday role. I have a feeling batting order will be bouncing around all year. I expect both Krieg and Caraway will run into a rough patch now that teams have some scouting reports for them. We have a wealth of hitters so we're going to see plenty of matchup L/R stuff, quality backup starts with injuries and situational play. Hainlines bat has actually gotten much better going from 0.058 to 0.250 in the last two series but we all know it's about to get harder. Trosky is one of our only spread/infield type hitters as he lacks the home run power. I don't mind that a bit, someone has to be in for the homers to get extra RBI. The spot I'm most concerned with is catcher. Smith is trending better than his first two seasons but I doubt he will ever be a great hitter averaging over 300, his biggest strides are in OBP this year. Wilson Weber does not have a hit in 10 AB. I know for a fact the guy can hit and hit with power but we need him to get out of his slump. If Smith can hit above .250 all year we will be more than fine. He’s on track for double digit home runs. Gets on base enough like you said. I really think we are looking too far into scouting reports and how tough the PAC is this year. The PAC is not even close to as deep as it has been in years passed. This lineup has the depth where everyone is protected. I don’t think Caraway will have the same trouble like Turley did his freshman year in conference play. He had a rough patch against NDSU but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt as a freshman playing in that weather for the first time and being a California boy. Krieg was amazing this series but there’s some definite holes in his swing from what I saw early on against better arms. I still think Mason is the best option at 1B. He’s athletic and dynamic over there. Just needs more time. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 11, 2024 14:05:00 GMT -8
Glad I'm not MC and making these decisions. What about the weekend Trosky had, how do you take him out of lineup? .400, 7 RBI, a double, a triple, and 2 SAC's with 0 errors on 15 chances for season. Agree with opening post, CSUN had some character as a team. They were not intimidated, they kept battling every inning in every game, had a lot of energy and engagement in their dugout and they had some grit about them. I respected their game. I like Trosky at short. And I think Hainline filled 3b quite well. Tough decision for MC. I'm not sure Hainline can remain an every day starter in this lineup. Nothing against him, we just have so much talent |
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Post by richard44 on Mar 11, 2024 16:16:48 GMT -8
If I’m Canham, I would keep Caraway in the field and the lineup. If you all of a sudden pull him from the field and only DH him, you risk a big money school swooping in and paying him a s%#t ton of money to play in the field and hit next year. The guy wants to play full time, and believes he is a first round draft pick. If we don’t treat him as such, we risk losing him. I don’t like that this is the way college sports are now, but it is. I really believe he loves OSU and came here for a reason, but things can change quickly with a prospect of his status if you start limiting his playing time.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 11, 2024 18:20:53 GMT -8
If I’m Canham, I would keep Caraway in the field and the lineup. If you all of a sudden pull him from the field and only DH him, you risk a big money school swooping in and paying him a s%#t ton of money to play in the field and hit next year. The guy wants to play full time, and believes he is a first round draft pick. If we don’t treat him as such, we risk losing him. I don’t like that this is the way college sports are now, but it is. I really believe he loves OSU and came here for a reason, but things can change quickly with a prospect of his status if you start limiting his playing time. Let’s not push the red button. Other than those two errors against NDSU Caraway has been fine at 3B. He’s made some stupid mistakes and he’s made some plays that could be on Sports Center. CM has called him a good defender multiple times and so has Joey Wong. Based on the interviews he’s had asking him about those mistakes I’m extremely impressed. I seriously doubt we will see those mistakes later in the year when it matters. He’s got high standards for himself and a lot of people have big expectations for him. He competed and performed against the best pitcher in college baseball right now (Hagen Smith). He was 2nd on the team in hits before this weekend started and he’s still top 5 while not even playing this weekend from battling an illness. Let’s chill out and let the kid do his thing. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Mar 11, 2024 18:36:52 GMT -8
I like Trosky at short. And I think Hainline filled 3b quite well. Tough decision for MC. I'm not sure Hainline can remain an every day starter in this lineup. Nothing against him, we just have so much talent Hainline could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted from the portal. He performed really well at Washington State and in the Cape. We are 16 games in and he’s just starting to get going. Calm down and let the kid play. |
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Post by richard44 on Mar 11, 2024 19:17:16 GMT -8
If I’m Canham, I would keep Caraway in the field and the lineup. If you all of a sudden pull him from the field and only DH him, you risk a big money school swooping in and paying him a s%#t ton of money to play in the field and hit next year. The guy wants to play full time, and believes he is a first round draft pick. If we don’t treat him as such, we risk losing him. I don’t like that this is the way college sports are now, but it is. I really believe he loves OSU and came here for a reason, but things can change quickly with a prospect of his status if you start limiting his playing time. Let’s not push the red button. Other than those two errors against NDSU Caraway has been fine at 3B. He’s made some stupid mistakes and he’s made some plays that could be on Sports Center. CM has called him a good defender multiple times and so has Joey Wong. Based on the interviews he’s had asking him about those mistakes I’m extremely impressed. I seriously doubt we will see those mistakes later in the year when it matters. He’s got high standards for himself and a lot of people have big expectations for him. He competed and performed against the best pitcher in college baseball right now (Hagen Smith). He was 2nd on the team in hits before this weekend started and he’s still top 5 while not even playing this weekend from battling an illness. Let’s chill out and let the kid do his thing. Oh I agree. I was only responding to an earlier post or two mentioning that Caraway should DH. I love Caraway and think he should start every game in the field and at the dish. I don’t hold a few errors against him. The dude is a stud and I trust guys like him in the biggest of moments. He plays with 100% energy all the time, and I have a ton of respect for the passion he brings to the baseball field. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 11, 2024 21:23:08 GMT -8
I like Trosky at short. And I think Hainline filled 3b quite well. Tough decision for MC. I'm not sure Hainline can remain an every day starter in this lineup. Nothing against him, we just have so much talent We do have an abundance of talent. There’s no way I could make the call on who should start, but I would try to get them all involved as much as possible. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 12, 2024 5:54:24 GMT -8
Krieg definitely needs to be the DH going forward. Trosky had a great series but we need Hainline to get going if we are going to make a run this year. This team is built off of offense and the best bats need to be in the lineup. I just wouldn’t look too far into this series. Yes, I’ll admit from a team perspective CSUN was definitely not scared to play us. They played with energy and were a scrappy bunch. They are probably a middle of the pack Big West team at best. The arms they threw against us were definitely below average. Tons of walks and not a single one of their arms had a swing and miss pitch. That’s why I stated the runners we left on base scared me a little. The pitching is the pitching. We’ve thrown a lot of guys to figure stuff out. Kmatz and Segura will be fine but need May back in that Friday role. I have a feeling batting order will be bouncing around all year. I expect both Krieg and Caraway will run into a rough patch now that teams have some scouting reports for them. We have a wealth of hitters so we're going to see plenty of matchup L/R stuff, quality backup starts with injuries and situational play. Hainlines bat has actually gotten much better going from 0.058 to 0.250 in the last two series but we all know it's about to get harder. Trosky is one of our only spread/infield type hitters as he lacks the home run power. I don't mind that a bit, someone has to be in for the homers to get extra RBI. The spot I'm most concerned with is catcher. Smith is trending better than his first two seasons but I doubt he will ever be a great hitter averaging over 300, his biggest strides are in OBP this year. Wilson Weber does not have a hit in 10 AB. I know for a fact the guy can hit and hit with power but we need him to get out of his slump. I'm more worried about Hainline's defense. We knew Trosky was a better defender, but Hainline's offense was enough to offset. That may not be the case. I do think Hainline average will continue to climb, he does hit the ball well and I think some of the fly balls will start to drop in, but he has to be much better on the defensive side. At the very least, Trosky deserves at least one start per weekend series. Caraway, will come around, but 3rd is a very tough position to play. I think you keep playing him at 3rd, and take the errors that come with it, at least until the playoffs. I don't mind occasionally switching Guerra to 3rd and have him DH, but I think Caraway just needs more reps at 3rd. Smith is hitting much better. I don't think he will be a .300 hitter, but few catchers are. If he hits around .265-.275, I think that is above average and puts him within range of all Pac12 with his defensive skills. I think we do need Kasper back, and I don't think it will be this weekend. We are so righty bat heavy, his lefty can help balance the line-up out against the righty pitchers. When Kasper does come back, do you have him DH and start Macias in RF? |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 12, 2024 6:34:45 GMT -8
I'm not sure Hainline can remain an every day starter in this lineup. Nothing against him, we just have so much talent Hainline could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted from the portal. He performed really well at Washington State and in the Cape. We are 16 games in and he’s just starting to get going. Calm down and let the kid play.  I know what he did before. I also see what we have on our roster, and how he has performed. I think he will get every opp to stay in the lineup. There's no guarantee that he does. Thats all im saying. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 12, 2024 7:33:56 GMT -8
I have a feeling batting order will be bouncing around all year. I expect both Krieg and Caraway will run into a rough patch now that teams have some scouting reports for them. We have a wealth of hitters so we're going to see plenty of matchup L/R stuff, quality backup starts with injuries and situational play. Hainlines bat has actually gotten much better going from 0.058 to 0.250 in the last two series but we all know it's about to get harder. Trosky is one of our only spread/infield type hitters as he lacks the home run power. I don't mind that a bit, someone has to be in for the homers to get extra RBI. The spot I'm most concerned with is catcher. Smith is trending better than his first two seasons but I doubt he will ever be a great hitter averaging over 300, his biggest strides are in OBP this year. Wilson Weber does not have a hit in 10 AB. I know for a fact the guy can hit and hit with power but we need him to get out of his slump. I'm more worried about Hainline's defense. We knew Trosky was a better defender, but Hainline's offense was enough to offset. That may not be the case. I do think Hainline average will continue to climb, he does hit the ball well and I think some of the fly balls will start to drop in, but he has to be much better on the defensive side. At the very least, Trosky deserves at least one start per weekend series. Caraway, will come around, but 3rd is a very tough position to play. I think you keep playing him at 3rd, and take the errors that come with it, at least until the playoffs. I don't mind occasionally switching Guerra to 3rd and have him DH, but I think Caraway just needs more reps at 3rd. Smith is hitting much better. I don't think he will be a .300 hitter, but few catchers are. If he hits around .265-.275, I think that is above average and puts him within range of all Pac12 with his defensive skills. I think we do need Kasper back, and I don't think it will be this weekend. We are so righty bat heavy, his lefty can help balance the line-up out against the righty pitchers. When Kasper does come back, do you have him DH and start Macias in RF? I'm not the best grader but here's what I've got for the main lineup guys for grades as a defender/hitter Trosky ++/+ (hits for average) Hainline 0/+ (hits for power) Baz ++/++ Caraway +/+ (he gets defender because his arm and ability are impressive, just learning) Guerra +/++ Kasper +/++ MMD +/++ (wish he had a cannon arm though) Macias ++/++ (gets the double with the switch hit ability) Turley +/+ (I think he could be double ++ by the end of the season) Smith ++/+ (No adley but he picks off runners, frames well, seems to have a good report with batters and blocks/catches some real bad wild stuff sometimes) Krieg 0/++ (just haven't seen enough of his fielding) Its tough to choose but I the guys I would have in every game are Baz, Trosky, MMD, Kasper, Macias, Smith, Krieg, Guerra, and Caraway. Where they play and and lineups I would struggle to choose game by game. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Mar 12, 2024 8:01:48 GMT -8
I'm not sure Hainline can remain an every day starter in this lineup. Nothing against him, we just have so much talent Hainline could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted from the portal. He performed really well at Washington State and in the Cape. We are 16 games in and he’s just starting to get going. Calm down and let the kid play. LOL - this is the same board where it was suggested that Guerra sit after the first weekend. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 12, 2024 8:30:04 GMT -8
I have a feeling batting order will be bouncing around all year. I expect both Krieg and Caraway will run into a rough patch now that teams have some scouting reports for them. We have a wealth of hitters so we're going to see plenty of matchup L/R stuff, quality backup starts with injuries and situational play. Hainlines bat has actually gotten much better going from 0.058 to 0.250 in the last two series but we all know it's about to get harder. Trosky is one of our only spread/infield type hitters as he lacks the home run power. I don't mind that a bit, someone has to be in for the homers to get extra RBI. The spot I'm most concerned with is catcher. Smith is trending better than his first two seasons but I doubt he will ever be a great hitter averaging over 300, his biggest strides are in OBP this year. Wilson Weber does not have a hit in 10 AB. I know for a fact the guy can hit and hit with power but we need him to get out of his slump. I'm more worried about Hainline's defense. We knew Trosky was a better defender, but Hainline's offense was enough to offset. That may not be the case. I do think Hainline average will continue to climb, he does hit the ball well and I think some of the fly balls will start to drop in, but he has to be much better on the defensive side. At the very least, Trosky deserves at least one start per weekend series. Caraway, will come around, but 3rd is a very tough position to play. I think you keep playing him at 3rd, and take the errors that come with it, at least until the playoffs. I don't mind occasionally switching Guerra to 3rd and have him DH, but I think Caraway just needs more reps at 3rd. Smith is hitting much better. I don't think he will be a .300 hitter, but few catchers are. If he hits around .265-.275, I think that is above average and puts him within range of all Pac12 with his defensive skills. I think we do need Kasper back, and I don't think it will be this weekend. We are so righty bat heavy, his lefty can help balance the line-up out against the righty pitchers. When Kasper does come back, do you have him DH and start Macias in RF? I've wondered if Hainline is just kind of tight....kind of looks that way from the outside looking in. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 12, 2024 8:39:33 GMT -8
Hainline could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted from the portal. He performed really well at Washington State and in the Cape. We are 16 games in and he’s just starting to get going. Calm down and let the kid play. LOL - this is the same board where it was suggested that Guerra sit after the first weekend. I don't think it's the same. That was waaaay too soon to make that call. Guerra was a huge part of the offense last season for us. His potential is thru the roof. Hence, playing in left.....Canham wants him in the lineup. Hainline, while somewhat of a known entity to us, is new to the program. He has not lit it up at the plate, or in the field. Trosky is nipping at his heels, and has produced when called upon......Trosky is also, by all accounts, a much better defensive infielder. If I were a betting man, I'd bet on Hainline being the better hitter as we get into conf play, but if his defense doesn't tighten up, Trosky may get the nod......I don't know how it will play out, but it's a good problem to have. And who knows, maybe they platoon all year as suggested above. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 12, 2024 9:25:20 GMT -8
I'm more worried about Hainline's defense. We knew Trosky was a better defender, but Hainline's offense was enough to offset. That may not be the case. I do think Hainline average will continue to climb, he does hit the ball well and I think some of the fly balls will start to drop in, but he has to be much better on the defensive side. At the very least, Trosky deserves at least one start per weekend series. Caraway, will come around, but 3rd is a very tough position to play. I think you keep playing him at 3rd, and take the errors that come with it, at least until the playoffs. I don't mind occasionally switching Guerra to 3rd and have him DH, but I think Caraway just needs more reps at 3rd. Smith is hitting much better. I don't think he will be a .300 hitter, but few catchers are. If he hits around .265-.275, I think that is above average and puts him within range of all Pac12 with his defensive skills. I think we do need Kasper back, and I don't think it will be this weekend. We are so righty bat heavy, his lefty can help balance the line-up out against the righty pitchers. When Kasper does come back, do you have him DH and start Macias in RF? I've wondered if Hainline is just kind of tight....kind of looks that way from the outside looking in. They mentioned on the radio that they made some changes to his swing (inside put approach I think?) and it's been an adjustment. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Mar 12, 2024 9:28:37 GMT -8
If I’m Canham, I would keep Caraway in the field and the lineup. If you all of a sudden pull him from the field and only DH him, you risk a big money school swooping in and paying him a s%#t ton of money to play in the field and hit next year. The guy wants to play full time, and believes he is a first round draft pick. If we don’t treat him as such, we risk losing him. I don’t like that this is the way college sports are now, but it is. I really believe he loves OSU and came here for a reason, but things can change quickly with a prospect of his status if you start limiting his playing time. I suppose that's always a risk to some degree these days, but if money was his motivating factor he wouldn't have gone the college route to begin with. I think players who chose to come here over signing out of high school, do so for reasons like; wanting to join a program known for player development, want to be a part of pursuing something special, and maybe, just maybe, see the value in a college degree. |
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