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Post by easyheat on Mar 5, 2024 15:42:11 GMT -8
Import stat: TB divided by PA's. Walks count the same as singles.
You can also calculate TB divided by AB's to confine it to hitting only.
As you know, Coaches study slash lines carefully. BA/ OBP/ SLG/ OPS. Each tells a story but OPB is the stat on steroids for this staff. Billy Beane taught the baseball world how important that analytic really was.
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Post by irimi on Mar 5, 2024 20:19:46 GMT -8
We've also had 110 strikeouts in 12 games. Nearly 10 a game. I don't have access to whatever database wilkyisdashiznit has, but I'm curious if the pace is up this year as compared to years past. I'm wondering if we're becoming like the big leagues where the home runs are aplenty and the strikeouts are too. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 5, 2024 20:47:18 GMT -8
We've also had 110 strikeouts in 12 games. Nearly 10 a game. I don't have access to whatever database wilkyisdashiznit has, but I'm curious if the pace is up this year as compared to years past. I'm wondering if we're becoming like the big leagues where the home runs are aplenty and the strikeouts are too. 2011 722012 952013 842014 572015 642016 742017 512018 672019 902020 1292021 1112022 902023 99
2024 110 |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 5, 2024 21:25:38 GMT -8
Looks pretty par for the course under Mitch except now the power hitting is legit.
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Post by easyheat on Mar 5, 2024 21:57:41 GMT -8
The analytics community minimizes the importance of a strike out. "It is just another out", preferable to a DP out but not as desirable as a fly or ground out where the defense has to make a play on the ball to record the out.
Rule of thumb in MLB is anything above 22% of AB's is an unacceptable number of K's.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 5, 2024 22:31:19 GMT -8
The analytics community minimizes the importance of a strike out. "It is just another out", preferable to a DP out but not as desirable as a fly or ground out where the defense has to make a play on the ball to record the out. Rule of thumb in MLB is anything above 22% of AB's is an unacceptable number of K's. 2011 18.00%2012 23.00%2013 21.05%2014 14.58%2015 15.38%2016 16.55%2017 13.56%2018 16.92%2019 23.32%2020 31.16%2021 27.07%2022 21.74%2023 23.57%2024 28.50% |
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Post by irimi on Mar 6, 2024 5:24:34 GMT -8
The analytics community minimizes the importance of a strike out. "It is just another out", preferable to a DP out but not as desirable as a fly or ground out where the defense has to make a play on the ball to record the out. Rule of thumb in MLB is anything above 22% of AB's is an unacceptable number of K's. So a strikeout is better than GIDP, but not better than a ground out or a fly out. Which means it is still one of the more undesirable ways to make an out. I suspect at the pro level, this is more true than the college level, where three players can miss a routine foul pop up. I also think there’s a psychological effect of strikeouts that isn’t being accounted for. Luckily, it has only cost the Beavs one game. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 6, 2024 9:26:27 GMT -8
We do need some table setters. If you aren't slapping singles and not hitting HRs, you better be getting on base through walks. So far we have 75 walks in 12 games which is a very high number, but 37 came against NDSU so that number is really inflated. Still if you take them out, it's 38 walks in 8 games, for almost 5 per game.
When we are on base, I'm seeing a lot less steal attempts compared to last couple years. If your team is hitting alot of HRs, why risk getting thrown out if the next guy up has a decent chance at a HR.
In the past we stressed pitchers by getting on base and have a threat to steal and manufacture runs. Now we stress out pitchers by just having an entire lineup with HR power. It seems like almost a hybrid west coast baseball and SEC baseball. Batting we lean more towards SEC style swing for the fences. Pitching is more West Coast with a lot less dependency on the fast ball. If this is the way we are going to build this team going forward under Mitch, does it make sense to bring in the fences at Goss to more align with a power hitting team like SEC schools?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 6, 2024 11:02:45 GMT -8
We do need some table setters. If you aren't slapping singles and not hitting HRs, you better be getting on base through walks. So far we have 75 walks in 12 games which is a very high number, but 37 came against NDSU so that number is really inflated. Still if you take them out, it's 38 walks in 8 games, for almost 5 per game. When we are on base, I'm seeing a lot less steal attempts compared to last couple years. If your team is hitting alot of HRs, why risk getting thrown out if the next guy up has a decent chance at a HR. In the past we stressed pitchers by getting on base and have a threat to steal and manufacture runs. Now we stress out pitchers by just having an entire lineup with HR power. It seems like almost a hybrid west coast baseball and SEC baseball. Batting we lean more towards SEC style swing for the fences. Pitching is more West Coast with a lot less dependency on the fast ball. If this is the way we are going to build this team going forward under Mitch, does it make sense to bring in the fences at Goss to more align with a power hitting team like SEC schools? I kind of like it being harder to homer in Goss. Whenever we get to a easier location we go ham which is fun to watch during road games. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 6, 2024 12:25:31 GMT -8
What's our slash line?
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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 6, 2024 12:41:56 GMT -8
Avg .326 OBP .455 SLG .606 Those all lead Pac-12 stats by quite a bit. Although that is not saying much this year. Nationally Avg is 24th OBP is 14th SLG is 10th |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 6, 2024 14:34:29 GMT -8
Avg .326 OBP .455 SLG .606 Those all lead Pac-12 stats by quite a bit. Although that is not saying much this year. Nationally Avg is 24th OBP is 14th SLG is 10th Yeah, a lot of great pitching to face in conference |
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Post by easyheat on Mar 6, 2024 20:34:30 GMT -8
The SBA is a tactical move usually determined by score, inning and game situation.
To date, I don't think the Beavers have been in very many situations that required a SB.
In most games we have either had a commanding lead or were down by 5 runs (NDSU) where risking an SBA didn't make much sense. Needing to avoid the DP or moving a runner into scoring position haven't presented themselves too often. That may change with PAC-12 play.
We have the speed to steal a lot of bases but the Staff has been great at not taking the bat out of their hitter's hands this year. When you have HR power, use it.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 6, 2024 21:10:10 GMT -8
The SBA is a tactical move usually determined by score, inning and game situation. To date, I don't think the Beavers have been in very many situations that required a SB. In most games we have either had a commanding lead or were down by 5 runs (NDSU) where risking an SBA didn't make much sense. Needing to avoid the DP or moving a runner into scoring position haven't presented themselves too often. That may change with PAC-12 play. We have the speed to steal a lot of bases but the Staff has been great at not taking the bat out of their hitter's hands this year. When you have HR power, use it. That's how I feel about it. Yeah I love small ball and grit but this team is built for 10 runs a game. I think where SEC teams get in trouble is when they don't know how to use small ball against a really good pitcher. I think our players and staff all know how to use it and the situation just hasn't called for it much. It probably would have been good to see more against Smith and Arky but at the same time bunting against a 100 mph fire hose is dangerous. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 7, 2024 6:35:24 GMT -8
The SBA is a tactical move usually determined by score, inning and game situation. To date, I don't think the Beavers have been in very many situations that required a SB. In most games we have either had a commanding lead or were down by 5 runs (NDSU) where risking an SBA didn't make much sense. Needing to avoid the DP or moving a runner into scoring position haven't presented themselves too often. That may change with PAC-12 play. We have the speed to steal a lot of bases but the Staff has been great at not taking the bat out of their hitter's hands this year. When you have HR power, use it. That's how I feel about it. Yeah I love small ball and grit but this team is built for 10 runs a game. I think where SEC teams get in trouble is when they don't know how to use small ball against a really good pitcher. I think our players and staff all know how to use it and the situation just hasn't called for it much. It probably would have been good to see more against Smith and Arky but at the same time bunting against a 100 mph fire hose is dangerous. Back in Surprise, I was afraid that we had become a different team than the great Beaver teams of recent years. But since then, I have seen enough to know that we have some versatile hitters who can launch the deep ball or lay down a bunt to move a runner along. Best of both worlds really. Probably some of you hear Canham’s pregame talk on Saturday or Sunday. He was talking about getting the players to hold off on the first pitch (especially the first pitch but others as well) unless it’s right down the middle of the plate. He said that they are working with the men to crowd the plate when necessary. And the result is getting better opportunities and hanging a higher pitch count on the pitcher. The Beavs are doing so well that sometimes it’s hard to remember that all of this is just work in progress. Every day learning. |
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