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Post by skyrider on Feb 12, 2024 17:02:29 GMT -8
Great wins by the Beavs these past several games!
I would like the expert opinion of my fellow posters on a basketball strategy question.
I live in Spokane now and for the past 10 years or so have watched a lot of Gonzaga women's basketball games.
They have always ran an offense where there was a lot of high/low action going on. That is an excellent mid to 3 point range shooter (Like Timea G.) positioned between the top of the key and the foul line and an outstanding post player (like Raegan B.) posting up down low near the basket. I believe with the Beavers the two players could be interchangeable at times (that is Raegan up high and Timea down low).
What a tremendously difficult situation for defenses to handle!
Anyway, perhaps they are already doing this and I am just not aware of it?
Go Beavs!
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 12, 2024 17:37:32 GMT -8
What you are, I think, describing is just one variation of the inside - out game, where the low post player looks, when doubled, to get the ball back outside, where somebody, by definition, must be open. Raegan is extremely good at this, the best we've had in years, and the Beavs do it all the time. Rather than looking for someone at the elbow, however, they tend to look for an open 3 point shooter = with great success. The ball then moves around the perimeter until the open shot is found. This contributed greatly to yesterday's 18 assists on 22 baskets - and Timea's four 3 point baskets.
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Post by skyrider on Feb 12, 2024 17:56:34 GMT -8
What you are, I think, describing is just one variation of the inside - out game, where the low post player looks, when doubled, to get the ball back outside, where somebody, by definition, must be open. Raegan is extremely good at this, the best we've had in years, and the Beavs do it all the time. Rather than looking for someone at the elbow, however, they tend to look for an open 3 point shooter = with great success. The ball then moves around the perimeter until the open shot is found. This contributed greatly to yesterday's 18 assists on 22 baskets - and Timea's four 3 point baskets.
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Post by skyrider on Feb 12, 2024 17:58:59 GMT -8
bvrbooster,
Thank you for your insightful and excellent response. What you describe is variations of the high, low that provide even more choices for the various positions on the floor.
Again, thank you!
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Post by beaveragain on Feb 12, 2024 18:21:49 GMT -8
Coach Payne described OSU's offense "they run a million different sets, you can't prepare for them all".
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 12, 2024 18:50:44 GMT -8
Coach Payne described OSU's offense "they run a million different sets, you can't prepare for them all". That is why what the Oregon girls do is so impressive. They had to learn a lot in a short period of time.
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Post by bvrbooster on Feb 12, 2024 19:26:35 GMT -8
Coach Payne described OSU's offense "they run a million different sets, you can't prepare for them all". Is "you can't prepare for them all" something like "they can't call them all"? Seriously, not only do we run "a million different sets," everybody on this year's team runs them very well and knows how they're supposed to react. Individually, they all do their jobs properly and efficiently, on both ends of the floor, which, collectively, leads to a great team effort, on both ends of the floor. And the best part is they're improving every week. We can see it, the coaches can see it, they, the players, can see it, and, oh yeah, UCLA and USC can see it. I can hardly wait for Friday!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 12, 2024 19:49:26 GMT -8
I also like Raegan at the top of the key distributing to the guards. The play going through her is really working.
I truly enjoy her playing the point post bringing the ball up the court. Not many post players can do that. Other teams just back off and let her go. A couple times last year she was challenged. If it was a post she just went around them and created an odd woman situation. And if it was a guard she passed over them to the open player.
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 12, 2024 21:12:21 GMT -8
I also like Raegan at the top of the key distributing to the guards. The play going through her is really working. I truly enjoy her playing the point post bringing the ball up the court. Not many post players can do that. Other teams just back off and let her go. A couple times last year she was challenged. If it was a post she just went around them and created an odd woman situation. And if it was a guard she passed over them to the open player. What cracked me up was when Raegan would bring the ball up court, and then no point guard was in a hurry to come and get the ball. Raegan stood at the top of the key, and Rueck signaled the play in just like she was the regular PG. Fun times, although I was nervous.
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 13, 2024 7:10:31 GMT -8
I also like Raegan at the top of the key distributing to the guards. The play going through her is really working. I truly enjoy her playing the point post bringing the ball up the court. Not many post players can do that. Other teams just back off and let her go. A couple times last year she was challenged. If it was a post she just went around them and created an odd woman situation. And if it was a guard she passed over them to the open player. What cracked me up was when Raegan would bring the ball up court, and then no point guard was in a hurry to come and get the ball. Raegan stood at the top of the key, and Rueck signaled the play in just like she was the regular PG. Fun times, although I was nervous.
It's a old trick that you don't see often with the women, and Scott has been doing it a LOT recently. Raegan's defender is standing in the key trying to get a little rest before the next round of the wrestling match. You might was well take advantage of the total lack of pressure to bring the ball up and let the coaches call the play in. It's been good for three or four plays usually, until the other team adjusts.
About those "million different sets" . . . that doesn't account for their ability to improvise. Remember that cut by Lily and assist by Dom that led to the three-point play? Raegan said that was nothing they practiced - just Lily's "basketball IQ". She should have mentioned Dom's perfect recognition, too. You would have thought that the two practiced that play every day for lifetime.
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