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Post by 411500 on Feb 8, 2024 13:44:33 GMT -8
There have been so many solid and well thought through comments written about the team this past few days that I find myself not having much new to add.
Nevertheless, here are a few amateur observations about the Beavs, where they're at, and where they're going.
1. Even the visual pollution of Matt Knight court cannot account for the poor shooting the Beavs showed in Eugene. The fact that Gardiner & Hansford hit critical shots in the 4th does not take away from what was pretty much a pathetic offensive display for 3/4 of the game.
2. Like most of us on this board, it's pretty obvious to me that the Beaver defense is ahead of the offence - probably by quite a bit. The good news is that defense will carry them thru a lot of turmoil. The bad news is it's not enough.
The starting 5 is scoring-impaired way too much of the time. Especially when Beers is effectively bracketed.
3. It's now clear that AJ & Rees are solid all-around players, but neither can score with any consistency. If you believe that offence wins, this is a negative indicator for ending the season in the top 4 in the conference.
4. Hansford & Gardiner can shoot - which is a good thing. Actually, a VERY good thing. Neither has reached the level where they can be called "scorers" in that neither attacks the basket with authority, and neither can create shots that are not there. But they are proving to be good shooters on a team that desperately needs exactly that.
5. Beers is better than almost anyone predicted she would be. She's downright awesome.
She is THE focus of every opposing team, and it is now standard practice to play cheat defenses that overly concentrate on her and challenge (almost dare) others to score. That is what the Beavs have come to expect and it will continue until the rest of the starting five can find the basket.
6. This team is good, even superb, at what some call "the intangibles" and others "the silent game." Coaches love it. So do I. This is one of the reasons I like this team so much, and it is one of the reasons they are able to muscle and hustle to victory when their offence is struggling.
7. On the practical side of things, I do not see a win this weekend. But a sweep of the LA schools and a sweep of the Washington schools plus a win at Gill against Cal could set the stage for a helluva Pac 12 tourney finale.
8. I love this team. I'm flying in for the LA games....But I wish like hell that AJ & Rees could score some points.
It would help the Beavs win a few more games, and it would help my emotional stability immensely.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by beaveragain on Feb 8, 2024 18:20:37 GMT -8
!- Lets see, the Beav's shot 69% in the last game and 42% this game so they are "pathetic"? You don't think your expectations might be a tad high?
2- The starting 5 is irrelevant, it's about who gets the minutes. And last game Rees got 10 minutes and Gardiner got 32 and was the high scorer in the game.
3- I think Rueck is correct, that it's defense that is mostly gets you to the very top. Occasionally it's offense, but rarely.
4- Gardiner, and others on the team, can hit the mid range shot and against most defenses this will be open. Now if Rueck will let them shoot it.
5- Yes, Beers is awesome. Along with her offense her defensive metrics are second only to Brinks in the Pac-12. And Brinks is about the best there is in the country.
6- What the team has is depth. This is something they've missed for years as folks have transferred out and the transfers in have required time to get up to snuff on SR's version of defense.
7- On the practical side of things I think that the Beav's will win both games this weekend if they play average games for themselves. If they can do that at the higher elevation we will find out this weekend!
8- The nature of this team is that it doesn't require Rees or AJ to have big scoring games, lots of folks on the bench can come in to provide that.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 8, 2024 20:00:37 GMT -8
In fairness to 411500, he did say the Beaver offense was pathetic for 3/4 of the Oregon game. To get to 42% for the game they had to hit 8 out of 10 shots down the stretch.
As for Beers, I tried to tell anyone who would listen that she would be the one who would put of the big numbers for the Beavs. Most on this board thought it would be Gardiner. Gardiner is more fluid, and can do a lot of things Raegan can't do, but Raegan is so good at what she can do, and so strong, that she was destined to put up the big numbers. I'm not right that often, but this is one I called correctly.
Best part about this year's Beavs, how much they love each other and how much they all want to improve and become the best team they can be.
I doubt the Beavs win this weekend, but I hope they do. I know they can, but it's not an easy task. Stanford couldn't win both games at the mountain schools. UCLA and USC couldn't get it done. If the Beavs do win both games they will accomplish something nobody else has done yet.
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Post by jefframp on Feb 9, 2024 21:29:31 GMT -8
In fairness to 411500, he did say the Beaver offense was pathetic for 3/4 of the Oregon game. To get to 42% for the game they had to hit 8 out of 10 shots down the stretch. As for Beers, I tried to tell anyone who would listen that she would be the one who would put of the big numbers for the Beavs. Most on this board thought it would be Gardiner. Gardiner is more fluid, and can do a lot of things Raegan can't do, but Raegan is so good at what she can do, and so strong, that she was destined to put up the big numbers. I'm not right that often, but this is one I called correctly. Best part about this year's Beavs, how much they love each other and how much they all want to improve and become the best team they can be. I doubt the Beavs win this weekend, but I hope they do. I know they can, but it's not an easy task. Stanford couldn't win both games at the mountain schools. UCLA and USC couldn't get it done. If the Beavs do win both games they will accomplish something nobody else has done yet. Beavs are half way there to a sweep. I wouldn't bet against these gals! |
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 9, 2024 21:55:52 GMT -8
I watched the Colorado at Beavs games numerous times and it was a real slugfest. In many ways that victory was more impressive than the Utah win at home. This team may have the biggest desire to win than any team I ever remember. They are still super young but their desire to learn, grow, and win is unmatched.
I've been conservative on this team, but they keep beating my expectations. Win or lose against Colorado on Sunday, I think they could win the remainder of their regular season games after this week. They could always have a letdown game against one of the Washington schools, but they haven't had one of those games yet.
Keep it up Beavs! You are a joy to watch.
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Post by 411500 on Feb 9, 2024 22:09:28 GMT -8
Boy was I wrong on this game. I've been wrong plenty before. But I never dreamed I'd be this wrong.
I think rmancarl said it perfectly in the post above: "This team may have the biggest desire to win than any team I ever remember. They are still super young but their desire to learn, grow, and win is unmatched. I've been conservative on this team, but they keep beating my expectations." [Me too, rmancarl.]
Bottom line: A win like this on the road, against a very good offensive team, in a tough environment, is totally impressive. Congrats to coach Rueck and congrats to the Beavs. Helluva game.
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by jrbeav59 on Feb 9, 2024 22:14:18 GMT -8
Boy was I wrong. But I never dreamed I'd be this wrong. I think rmancarl said it perfectly: "This team may have the biggest desire to win than any team I ever remember. They are still super young but their desire to learn, grow, and win is unmatched. I've been conservative on this team, but they keep beating my expectations." Bottom line: A win like this on the road, against a very good offensive team, in a tough environment, is totally impressive. Congrats Beavs. Helluva game. GO BEAVS!! The defense is just insane. Prior to this game, Utah's lowest score was 58 points and were held to 14 points under that. Utah was 1 for 12 in the 4th Qtr. |
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Post by beaveragain on Feb 9, 2024 22:27:10 GMT -8
Played an average game, won the game.
The bench outscored Utah's 20 to 2.
My fortune telling future's so bright, maybe I should buy some shades....
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Post by rmancarl on Feb 10, 2024 9:58:11 GMT -8
I've watched the game twice now. Beavs won both times. Does that count as two wins this weekend?
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Post by greybeav on Feb 10, 2024 10:22:30 GMT -8
I've watched the game twice now. Beavs won both times. Does that count as two wins this weekend? I'm glad you had the nerve, I was thinking the same thing, made me laugh, thanks. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 11, 2024 13:44:04 GMT -8
In fairness to 411500, he did say the Beaver offense was pathetic for 3/4 of the Oregon game. To get to 42% for the game they had to hit 8 out of 10 shots down the stretch. As for Beers, I tried to tell anyone who would listen that she would be the one who would put of the big numbers for the Beavs. Most on this board thought it would be Gardiner. Gardiner is more fluid, and can do a lot of things Raegan can't do, but Raegan is so good at what she can do, and so strong, that she was destined to put up the big numbers. I'm not right that often, but this is one I called correctly. Best part about this year's Beavs, how much they love each other and how much they all want to improve and become the best team they can be. I doubt the Beavs win this weekend, but I hope they do. I know they can, but it's not an easy task. Stanford couldn't win both games at the mountain schools. UCLA and USC couldn't get it done. If the Beavs do win both games they will accomplish something nobody else has done yet. You were not alone. I doubt any Beav fan would have put money down on a road sweep vs the Mountain teams. But, hey, they done did it. How do you think about a home sweep vs the LA schools? |
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Post by rgeorge on Feb 11, 2024 13:53:13 GMT -8
In fairness to 411500, he did say the Beaver offense was pathetic for 3/4 of the Oregon game. To get to 42% for the game they had to hit 8 out of 10 shots down the stretch. As for Beers, I tried to tell anyone who would listen that she would be the one who would put of the big numbers for the Beavs. Most on this board thought it would be Gardiner. Gardiner is more fluid, and can do a lot of things Raegan can't do, but Raegan is so good at what she can do, and so strong, that she was destined to put up the big numbers. I'm not right that often, but this is one I called correctly. Best part about this year's Beavs, how much they love each other and how much they all want to improve and become the best team they can be. I doubt the Beavs win this weekend, but I hope they do. I know they can, but it's not an easy task. Stanford couldn't win both games at the mountain schools. UCLA and USC couldn't get it done. If the Beavs do win both games they will accomplish something nobody else has done yet. You were not alone. I doubt any Beav fan would have put money down on a road sweep vs the Mountain teams. But, hey, they done did it. How do you think about a home sweep vs the LA schools? I don't make predictions, but this isn't the MBB program. Hence, I'm not seeing this momentum being wasted. |
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