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Post by Bodhisattva on Jan 29, 2024 8:27:53 GMT -8
With Canham's presser he mentioned how good Trosky is on defense. Does he lock down one of the infield positions? Hainline, I believe, is considered an average defender. Caraway is still an unknown. Bazzana really isn't known as a great defender, not bad, just not great.
Trying to figure out where everyone slots in the infield positions plus DH out of Guerra, Bazzana, Hainline, Caraway, and Trosky. Does Krieg or Peterson come into the discussion? I do think Bazzana has 2nd base locked down, I just don't see moving him to another infield position.
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Post by jayvinson on Jan 29, 2024 8:47:56 GMT -8
Trosky starts. In 2025. Hainline's bat is too important.
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Post by bazzana4days on Jan 29, 2024 8:59:19 GMT -8
Hainline was probably promised playing time and if he doesn't get it future transfers might shy away. Caraway needs day 1 playing time or he might transfer,
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 29, 2024 10:05:31 GMT -8
Depth......It's a good problem to have. I think Guerra's bat is in the lineup no matter what. Hainline has proven to be an every day Pac 12 level starter, at a high level. Bazzana is obviously in the lineup every day. Peterson.....gonna be tough to keep that kid out of the lineup. Krieg is a question mark.....maybe he's odd man out and Guerra plays first? Caraway first, or 3rd?
The more I think about it, Trosky may have a hard time cracking the lineup unless he is a flat out wizard on D and is swinging the bat well.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 10:17:01 GMT -8
We're 12+ deep on the field right now. I expect plenty of platooning as we have seen through coaches tenure. Guys will just get better competing and we are well positioned for any injuries.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 11:43:15 GMT -8
With Canham's presser he mentioned how good Trosky is on defense. Does he lock down one of the infield positions? Hainline, I believe, is considered an average defender. Caraway is still an unknown. Bazzana really isn't known as a great defender, not bad, just not great. Trying to figure out where everyone slots in the infield positions plus DH out of Guerra, Bazzana, Hainline, Caraway, and Trosky. Does Krieg or Peterson come into the discussion? I do think Bazzana has 2nd base locked down, I just don't see moving him to another infield position. My guess at initial starting lineup; c platoon 1B Guerra 2B Baz 3B Carraway SS Hainline LF Turley CF McDowel RF Kasper Off bench with lots of opportunity: Trosky, Cedillo, Krieg, Reeder, Macias, Talt, Peterson
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Post by jayvinson on Jan 29, 2024 13:56:17 GMT -8
Gonna be a long walk for Cedillo from the bench to the field.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2024 14:08:18 GMT -8
With Canham's presser he mentioned how good Trosky is on defense. Does he lock down one of the infield positions? Hainline, I believe, is considered an average defender. Caraway is still an unknown. Bazzana really isn't known as a great defender, not bad, just not great. Trying to figure out where everyone slots in the infield positions plus DH out of Guerra, Bazzana, Hainline, Caraway, and Trosky. Does Krieg or Peterson come into the discussion? I do think Bazzana has 2nd base locked down, I just don't see moving him to another infield position. My guess at initial starting lineup; c platoon 1B Guerra 2B Baz 3B Carraway SS HainlineLF Turley CF McDowel RF Kasper Off bench with lots of opportunity: Trosky, Cedillo, Krieg, Reeder, Macias, Talt, Peterson No idea what the most used lineup will be, but it needs to diminish the amount of swing and misses while accentuating the defense. As others have mention I have a feeling this staff may need a very solid D behind them. At least early on. If Hainline is truly an average SS with as similar 3:1 K:BB ratio in Pac12 play OSU needs a good to great SS to pair with Baz. I saw him in Pac12 play where he was (.981 FA with only 2 Es), which is pretty solid. On the WSU site he was (.953 / 10) overall. A post above mentioned "promises" to Elijah. Just do not see MC promising anyone anything but a shot at earning a spot. The same he promises everyone and every future transfer. You play your way into the lineup is the OSU way. Depth & the ensuing competition is a good thing.
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Post by easyheat on Jan 29, 2024 14:37:53 GMT -8
Roster depth is a huge tool for the coaches. They can change the lineup and not see much if any drop off. I expect to see a solid lineup with small adjustments that can increase our advantage from situation to situation.
A small tilt to LH hitters facing RHP. Vice versa. Replacement for injury Replacement for a slumping hitter Substituting for defense. A tilt to HR potential over average v certain pitchers. vice versa Substituting for speed Pinch hitting to up the odds of getting a needed a SAC fly or to get a SAC bunt down. Giving an every game starter a day of rest.
Example: If the scouting report's spray chart shows the opponent hits a lot of hard balls to the left side, you may see Trosky start at SS or appear in the late innings.
Our staff are always looking to gain an advantage depending on inning and score and game situation. Sometimes that just means going to the bench with a good lead and rewarding a hard worker with some PT (innings on the field).
Oregon State plays their guys, they can all play and can fill roles as needed. It's a team effort when everybody sees some action. It's a perfect deal, the guys want to play and Coach wants to play them.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 14:47:37 GMT -8
Gonna be a long walk for Cedillo from the bench to the field. Are you saying another county type long walk? I haven't seen anything he's left or transferred and the Eggers article last month also mentions him as a backup OF and in competition for DH.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 14:50:38 GMT -8
My guess at initial starting lineup; c platoon 1B Guerra 2B Baz 3B Carraway SS HainlineLF Turley CF McDowel RF Kasper Off bench with lots of opportunity: Trosky, Cedillo, Krieg, Reeder, Macias, Talt, Peterson No idea what the most used lineup will be, but it needs to diminish the amount of swing and misses while accentuating the defense. As others have mention I have a feeling this staff may need a very solid D behind them. At least early on. If Hainline is truly an average SS with as similar 3:1 K:BB ratio in Pac12 play OSU needs a good to great SS to pair with Baz. I saw him in Pac12 play where he was (.981 FA with only 2 Es), which is pretty solid. On the WSU site he was (.953 / 10) overall.A post above mentioned "promises" to Elijah. Just do not see MC promising anyone anything but a shot at earning a spot. The same he promises everyone and every future transfer. You play your way into the lineup is the OSU way. Depth & the ensuing competition is a good thing. Not that it's the benchmark or gold standard, but how were Dernnedes Conference fielding #'s in comparison?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 15:51:51 GMT -8
No idea what the most used lineup will be, but it needs to diminish the amount of swing and misses while accentuating the defense. As others have mention I have a feeling this staff may need a very solid D behind them. At least early on. If Hainline is truly an average SS with as similar 3:1 K:BB ratio in Pac12 play OSU needs a good to great SS to pair with Baz. I saw him in Pac12 play where he was (.981 FA with only 2 Es), which is pretty solid. On the WSU site he was (.953 / 10) overall.A post above mentioned "promises" to Elijah. Just do not see MC promising anyone anything but a shot at earning a spot. The same he promises everyone and every future transfer. You play your way into the lineup is the OSU way. Depth & the ensuing competition is a good thing. Not that it's the benchmark or gold standard, but how were Dernnedes Conference fielding #'s in comparison? .995 w/ 1 error. His only non-perfect conference game was the rubber match with WSU.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 16:20:49 GMT -8
Not that it's the benchmark or gold standard, but how were Dernnedes Conference fielding #'s in comparison? .995 w/ 1 error. His only non-perfect conference game was the rubber match with WSU. Well maybe that is the benchmark, not much room for improvement there. Though I do seem to recall there was some debate/discussion on alleged "generosity" by the scorer giving hits vs errors at times. I guess if you were on the mound it wouldn't be considered generosity though.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 29, 2024 16:25:37 GMT -8
.995 w/ 1 error. His only non-perfect conference game was the rubber match with WSU. Well maybe that is the benchmark, not much room for improvement there. Though I do seem to recall there was some debate/discussion on alleged "generosity" by the scorer giving hits vs errors at times. I guess if you were on the mound it wouldn't be considered generosity though. I would be in that camp but I'm not much of a baseball mind. He was very solid, the only reason anyone ever brought up his on field performance is because he was a pedestrian to bad hitter. If Haineline has 0.95 and 5 errors but bats .350 with power no one is gonna care much about the errors.
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Post by babeav on Jan 29, 2024 16:34:38 GMT -8
Cedillo isn’t on the official roster handed out at the Diamond Dinner.
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