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Post by rgeorge on Jan 21, 2024 16:44:24 GMT -8
With 3 min left on 4th... Beers has 3 post touches, 2 turnovers, 1 FGA.
A bunch of dribbling by Dom, passing around the perimeter, jump shots.
Last 3 min... - entry to Beers and assist - entry to Beers turnover - Beers high screen, AJ fouled - Beers high screen Timea 3 After that OSU needed 3's.
Really was OSU going away from Beers vs Stanford taking her away.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 21, 2024 16:51:47 GMT -8
I think this team is about as good as we could expect right now considering how young it is. Is it short a second consistent scorer? Yes. That will most likely be a problem against the better teams, particularly ones that play good defense like Stanford. Overall, I really like this team. I hope Rueck can figure out a few things to boost the offense. I agree with that. The moment just proved too big for our very young team, particularly our freshmen. We're a year away from being able to contend for a championship in a conference like this - just a damn shame that we won't get that chance. Going forward, we need to win 1 of 2 next weekend, and then beat Oregon. That would put us at 6-4 in conference, 17-4 overall, and set us up for a strong enough finish to get a good seeding in the tournament. I can see us winning 2 in March if we're a 6 seed - not going to be any 3 seed that's better than the teams in this conference that we're hanging in with. I agree with everything but the #3 seed. There are some VERY good teams in the top 10-15 that are easily as good as the top of the Pac12 on any given night on a neutral court. But, a 6 seed and winning the first would be great start.
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Post by newduke2 on Jan 21, 2024 16:56:33 GMT -8
Point guards need to score, but are not, hence Paurova was used as PG in 4th quarter.
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Post by standerd on Jan 21, 2024 17:06:50 GMT -8
It’s a shame that this is more about missing so many open mid range shots than Stanford overpowering and smothering us when we had the ball. The opportunities have been there I agree. Right now we pretty much have a 2-dimensional offense: low post-driving layups and the 3. Our mid-range offense is so incredibly inconsistent. We had many open opportunities and shot bricks, which is super problematic when we are struggling with the other 2 options. If the Beavs can start to bring the mid-range offense with consistency, they will be hard to beat. Beavs are already an elite defensive team. Now SR needs to get busy with the mid-range offense.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 21, 2024 17:08:15 GMT -8
I think this team is about as good as we could expect right now considering how young it is. Is it short a second consistent scorer? Yes. That will most likely be a problem against the better teams, particularly ones that play good defense like Stanford. Overall, I really like this team. I hope Rueck can figure out a few things to boost the offense. I agree with that. The moment just proved too big for our very young team, particularly our freshmen. We're a year away from being able to contend for a championship in a conference like this - just a damn shame that we won't get that chance. Going forward, we need to win 1 of 2 next weekend, and then beat Oregon. That would put us at 6-4 in conference, 17-4 overall, and set us up for a strong enough finish to get a good seeding in the tournament. I can see us winning 2 in March if we're a 6 seed - not going to be any 3 seed that's better than the teams in this conference that we're hanging in with. Given the mental makeup of this team...and how they battled both USC and Stanford on the road...I'm hoping (and I believe that it's at least a possibility), that the Colo / Utah weekend in Corvallis produces in a 2-0 result: a.) Crowds should be at a season high
b.) the team now knows that they can challenge even top PAC-12 teams on the road
c.) Paurova is emerging
d.) Gardiner's rebounding is exploding
e.) Hunter & Rees are both due for a 'bounce-back', re: ball going thru the hoop.
f.) Beav defense is awesome. Beavs are 12-0 at home this season. Look for at least 2 (or 3) of Hansford / Gardiner / Blacklock/ Rees to be stroking 3's with regularity within the friendly confines of Gill. Yes. I wear orange colored glasses.
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Post by standerd on Jan 21, 2024 17:14:32 GMT -8
Once again the Beav's PG's aren't an offensive threat. Hunter and Shuler are just ignored at the perimeter, which makes it hard for anyone else to get open. Definitely have to greatly improve this aspect of our offense.
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Post by osu82 on Jan 21, 2024 17:16:34 GMT -8
It’s a shame that this is more about missing so many open mid range shots than Stanford overpowering and smothering us when we had the ball. The opportunities have been there I agree. Right now we pretty much have a 2-dimensional offense: low post-driving layups and the 3. Our mid-range offense is so incredibly inconsistent. We had many open opportunities and shot bricks, which is super problematic when we are struggling with the other 2 options. If the Beavs can start to bring the mid-range offense with consistency, they will be hard to beat. Beavs are already an elite defensive team. Now SR needs to get busy with the mid-range offense. Agree, but if you play 4 out-1-in offense how does that enhance a mid-range offense? Honest question. Rueck’s offense has been predicated on a strong post and good/great 3 pt shooting. The problem the past couple seasons is they don’t have consistent 3 pt scoring. Plus, it’s compounded when the 1’s aren’t a 3 pt threat.
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Post by lotrader on Jan 21, 2024 17:28:10 GMT -8
Tonight's loss was on the coach not making the right in-game adjustments. Kiki went off and we did nothing about it. Why didn't we go zone? Why did Adlee (our best instant offense) not see the floor today? I really like our team, and they played their butts off. Throwing Dom at the point for the first time in Q4 at Stanford was a lot to ask of Dom. Dom did the best she could but what a game to throw her to the wolves.
I am a huge AJ fan, but right now unless AJ's defender falls down, AJ can't make an open shot. Adlee should have seen action in this game. Good news we get another crack at Stanford in Gill, but this time we'll see Brink on the floor as well.
I just can't stand bad refs. I don't know how many times Raegan got pummeled with no foul. And Kiki took 1 extra (traveling) step on her layup at end of 1st half. Refs have been all over the traveling call, and they miss an absolute obvious travel at a very important moment.
Oh well, with mostly freshmen and sophomores, this team is actually playing very well. Gotta take the long view with this team. They will improve. OSU WBB continue their streak of holding the best teams to their lowest offensive scores of their season to date. Now OSU WBB need some offense.
I am proud of this group. GO BEAVS!
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 21, 2024 17:35:39 GMT -8
Nice highlight. TENACITY!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 21, 2024 18:04:17 GMT -8
I agree. Right now we pretty much have a 2-dimensional offense: low post-driving layups and the 3. Our mid-range offense is so incredibly inconsistent. We had many open opportunities and shot bricks, which is super problematic when we are struggling with the other 2 options. If the Beavs can start to bring the mid-range offense with consistency, they will be hard to beat. Beavs are already an elite defensive team. Now SR needs to get busy with the mid-range offense. Agree, but if you play 4 out-1-in offense how does that enhance a mid-range offense? Honest question. Rueck’s offense has been predicated on a strong post and good/great 3 pt shooting. The problem the past couple seasons is they don’t have consistent 3 pt scoring. Plus, it’s compounded when the 1’s aren’t a 3 pt threat. That’s a definite problem. I know SR likes to bring Timea off the bench, but I think the offensive would be much more effective starting her and having her play the high post with Beers low. She needs to either take that jumper at the high post or dump it down to Beers. Timea is too talented to just sit out at the 3 point line, which she often does.
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Post by grad1973 on Jan 21, 2024 18:26:13 GMT -8
I don't watch wbb as close as others here but is there something wrong with TVO physically or otherwise. She just looks like something is off. I think she fell pretty hard on the floor against Cal
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Post by osu82 on Jan 21, 2024 18:37:10 GMT -8
Agree, but if you play 4 out-1-in offense how does that enhance a mid-range offense? Honest question. Rueck’s offense has been predicated on a strong post and good/great 3 pt shooting. The problem the past couple seasons is they don’t have consistent 3 pt scoring. Plus, it’s compounded when the 1’s aren’t a 3 pt threat. That’s a definite problem. I know SR likes to bring Timea off the bench, but I think the offensive would be much more effective starting her and having her play the high post with Beers low. She needs to either take that jumper at the high post or dump it down to Beers. Timea is too talented to just sit out at the 3 point line, which she often does. Yep, plus would put her in a better position for O boards. She’s a very good rebounder, at least at the other end. I think she could be a Lauren Cox type player (Baylor) at the 4.
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Post by grad1973 on Jan 21, 2024 18:44:08 GMT -8
Point guards need to score, but are not, hence Paurova was used as PG in 4th quarter. You dont want Dom at point guard that ruins her affectiveness. She is good in transition where she can create shots. We have three pt players this just doesnt make sense that they were this inaffective against a stanford in a down year for them. They have more losses and close games this year then most years. The same ugly fact happened like against Cal. No production from the starters in league play. We all had cold feet for some reason this game the team appeared to just have zero confidence today on offense. [ I dont get how there were very few fouls called yet we didnt really defend stanfords post. She was our achillese heal. She put stanford on her back. We could have zoned more fronted and backed her their offense wasnt very affective as a hole. The basket was ours to protect but when you defend a excellent post inside player without collapsing on her she did what was expected today. You cant defend her with one player. Our game plan to stop her wasnt well thought out. ]
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 21, 2024 18:49:05 GMT -8
Point guards need to score, but are not, hence Paurova was used as PG in 4th quarter. You dont want Dom at point guard that ruins her affectiveness. She is good in transition where she can create shots. We have three pt players this just doesnt make sense that they were this inaffective against a stanford in a down year for them. They have more losses and close games this year then most years. The same ugly fact happened like against Cal. No production from the starters in league play. We all had cold feet for some reason this game the team appeared to just have zero confidence today on offense. Beers laughs at your “no production from starters”
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Post by jimbob on Jan 21, 2024 19:28:10 GMT -8
That’s a definite problem. I know SR likes to bring Timea off the bench, but I think the offensive would be much more effective starting her and having her play the high post with Beers low. She needs to either take that jumper at the high post or dump it down to Beers. Timea is too talented to just sit out at the 3 point line, which she often does. Yep, plus would put her in a better position for O boards. She’s a very good rebounder, at least at the other end. I think she could be a Lauren Cox type player (Baylor) at the 4. Exactly what I've been saying about Timea!....Currently for the most part we are just wasting her talent having her roam around out there at the 3 pt. line. With the current offensive woes of most of our starters I would like to see Timea and Dom inserted into the starting lineup replacing AJ and Kelsey with Timea playing the high post as Judge suggests. Both of these players are instant offense and in my opinion better all around players than Kelsey and AJ. I think this move would really help us put a hurt on our opponent's early in the games and make them have to play from behind rather than us mostly trying to comeback from our slowish starts. I've always been a proponent of starting your best 5 players and I know some of you think that it's the overall minutes played in the game and not who starts is what counts but I'm not in that camp. Put your best 5 out there at the start and put the other team in a big hole and go from there is a better winning strategy I think!
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