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TINKLE
Jan 11, 2024 22:56:19 GMT -8
Post by lefty on Jan 11, 2024 22:56:19 GMT -8
How much does Tinkle earned (bad wording) GET for coaching and how much longer is it contract. Can any of his assistant coach?
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 11, 2024 23:11:31 GMT -8
How much does Tinkle earned (bad wording) GET for coaching and how much longer is it contract. Can any of his assistant coach? Yes... the lead assistant former D1 HC... 9 yrs assist at Stanford 11 yrs HC U of Portland 7 yrs assist at Georgia Tech If fired by June 30th, OSU would owe WT $8.7 mil for the last 3 years on his extension. |
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Post by messi on Jan 12, 2024 7:35:57 GMT -8
I'm certain he'll have more conference wins by this time next year, unless the front end of the schedule is loaded with Gonzaga, Washington State, St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Santa Clara. But I'm certain the Beavs can take care of business against the likes of Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego.
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 12, 2024 7:49:04 GMT -8
I'm certain he'll have more conference wins by this time next year, unless the front end of the schedule is loaded with Gonzaga, Washington State, St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Santa Clara. But I'm certain the Beavs can take care of business against the likes of Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego. What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. |
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Post by messi on Jan 12, 2024 8:10:37 GMT -8
I'm certain he'll have more conference wins by this time next year, unless the front end of the schedule is loaded with Gonzaga, Washington State, St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Santa Clara. But I'm certain the Beavs can take care of business against the likes of Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego. What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. I took a peak over at the NET rankings, and those four are ranked lower than OSU at the moment. But yeah, its going to be a stinker like right now. Especially since in the final NET rankings last season, only San Diego placed worse than Oregon State. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 12, 2024 9:25:00 GMT -8
I'm certain he'll have more conference wins by this time next year, unless the front end of the schedule is loaded with Gonzaga, Washington State, St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Santa Clara. But I'm certain the Beavs can take care of business against the likes of Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego. What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. |
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TINKLE
Jan 12, 2024 9:25:23 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 12, 2024 9:25:23 GMT -8
What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. I took a peak over at the NET rankings, and those four are ranked lower than OSU at the moment. But yeah, its going to be a stinker like right now. Especially since in the final NET rankings last season, only San Diego placed worse than Oregon State. Portland State disagrees 🤣 |
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Jan 12, 2024 9:35:16 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Jan 12, 2024 9:35:16 GMT -8
I took a peak over at the NET rankings, and those four are ranked lower than OSU at the moment. But yeah, its going to be a stinker like right now. Especially since in the final NET rankings last season, only San Diego placed worse than Oregon State. Portland State disagrees 🤣 He was talking WCC, not the mighty Big Sky..... |
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TINKLE
Jan 12, 2024 10:34:55 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 12, 2024 10:34:55 GMT -8
Portland State disagrees 🤣 He was talking WCC, not the mighty Big Sky..... Yep... whoosh |
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TINKLE
Jan 12, 2024 12:10:49 GMT -8
Post by ag87 on Jan 12, 2024 12:10:49 GMT -8
What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. That's the problem. If Pope, Bilodeau, Rataj, Akanno, Ibekwe, and Chol (or not) all return, the team will be better. How are you going to get those guys to stay? For instance if Rataj leaves, what are the chances you can find a similar player in the portal? |
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Jan 12, 2024 12:38:15 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 12, 2024 12:38:15 GMT -8
If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. That's the problem. If Pope, Bilodeau, Rataj, Akanno, Ibekwe, and Chol (or not) all return, the team will be better. How are you going to get those guys to stay? For instance if Rataj leaves, what are the chances you can find a similar player in the portal? I really like Rataj and think he will be a very nice Pac-12 level player for us if he stays the next 2 years. I would hope he doesn't leave. I do think there could be portal players at approximately his level available in April. A few weeks ago we had people on the football forum saying we're doomed talent-wise for next year. I think whether our players choose to stay or not next year will depend on how the season goes. Last year at this time we only had 7 wins, and we only got 4 more. Yet all but all but 1 significant player stayed. This year we're up to 9 wins, we've had a chance to win in 5-6 of our losses, and there's a lot of season left. A few years back, same coach, the Beavs didn't win their 9th game until February, yet by some "fluke", as some call it, ended up doing more than ok. I'm waiting to see how the season goes. Then I'll wait to see if the kids stick around or not, if we have the same coaches or not, and if we get some new portal players or not. It's hard to say what might happen. I doubt we're the only Pac-12 team in that boat. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 12, 2024 14:07:37 GMT -8
What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. That's a pretty big IF in my opinion. Players leave annually. |
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TINKLE
Jan 12, 2024 14:08:45 GMT -8
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 12, 2024 14:08:45 GMT -8
That's the problem. If Pope, Bilodeau, Rataj, Akanno, Ibekwe, and Chol (or not) all return, the team will be better. How are you going to get those guys to stay? For instance if Rataj leaves, what are the chances you can find a similar player in the portal? I really like Rataj and think he will be a very nice Pac-12 level player for us if he stays the next 2 years. I would hope he doesn't leave. I do think there could be portal players at approximately his level available in April. A few weeks ago we had people on the football forum saying we're doomed talent-wise for next year. I think whether our players choose to stay or not next year will depend on how the season goes. Last year at this time we only had 7 wins, and we only got 4 more. Yet all but all but 1 significant player stayed. This year we're up to 9 wins, we've had a chance to win in 5-6 of our losses, and there's a lot of season left. A few years back, same coach, the Beavs didn't win their 9th game until February, yet by some "fluke", as some call it, ended up doing more than ok. I'm waiting to see how the season goes. Then I'll wait to see if the kids stick around or not, if we have the same coaches or not, and if we get some new portal players or not. It's hard to say what might happen. I doubt we're the only Pac-12 team in that boat. At this point in 2021, Oregon State was 5-4, having just lost to Stanford at Gill by 10. Some gems from the official thread in 2021: Only person that doesn't seem to know Thompson isn't a point guard is Tinkle.geez sTINK-ball rears its ugly head again. Year 7.... still NO recognizable/effective offensive sets! I guess we're ok with living and dying by chucking up 3's...if that's the case, we need better shooters. It's ok to sit Ethan sometimes...38 mins is too much...and he is NOT a point guard. TW's post game pressers are painful to listen to...ugh. There are plenty of recognizable offensive sets. The problem, is that they run one rotation through and then give up and improvise. That is on Tinkle to get them to stick with the sets for longer. He complained about the freelancing last week, but it's up to him to impose the discipline in them to run the offense. Its year 7. Its been the same for the previous 6. Change isn't going to happen. Oregon State lost the next home game against Arizona by 34 before turning things around. 5-2 in Corvallis after that and 4-5 on the road. Then, six straight neutral site games to put up the best season finish in the past 60 years. Oregon State only has eight left on the road. Need to go at least 9-6 the rest of the way. The issue is that the next three look to be three of the four most difficult of the remaining game and five of the next six will be five of the six most difficult remaining games. Arizona State is near a must-win, and Oregon State probably needs to steal one or both from UCLA and USC, just to make the backstretch more manageable. |
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Jan 12, 2024 14:39:14 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 12, 2024 14:39:14 GMT -8
If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. That's a pretty big IF in my opinion. Players leave annually. I'm expecting change, that's not a huge deal. What would be a big deal in my mind is if an employer walked in and and told his employees "By the way, I just signed a contract or two, and 10-20 percent of you are going to be replaced in a few months. Keep up the good work." I'd think productivity and morale would likely suffer in at least the short run, and they may lose more employees than bargained for because of the employer's announcement. |
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Post by irimi on Jan 18, 2024 13:34:20 GMT -8
What’s behind your optimism that this team, coach, program can beat Portland, Pepperdine, LMU, and San Diego? Because I see this team struggle against everyone. If everyone already here stays, do you actually think this team will get worse? Freshmen and sophomore heavy teams usually improve a fair amount when they become upperclassman heavy teams that have stayed together a couple years. Heck, that even happened during the Blume/Radford/Johnson years. Granted their early years were at a higher level than our current team, but their ceiling went up as the team aged, I expect this team’s ceiling will raise some as well. You know it's a bad year when the fans are already looking for the next year. |
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