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Post by grayman on Jan 12, 2024 14:18:05 GMT -8
A couple things. The Beavers only played 7 games in 2020. I'm thinking the. NCAA originally set out to make it 6 to play 4 then later turned it to a blanket extra year of eligibility because even the schools were getting confused. I could be wrong, but Jaydon Grant played for us in 6 different seasons, and aside from his freshman year (2 games) he played 6+ games every season. I believe that freshman year was deemed an injury year, but that still means he played 6 or more games every year (5 years) which means ineligible for other redshirt possibilities. Kinda confusing. As I understand it, everything is the same, except 2020 didn't count. Grant played in 2020 (didn't count) and fewer than 4 games in his frosh season (doesn't count), so 4 years that do count. You can count a season as a redshirt year with 4 or fewer games played. Once we get far enough past 2020, there should no longer be any confusion - medical exemptions notwithstanding. Yes, sorry...Oladapo played six games in 2020 but yeah, that doesn't matter because 2020 didn't count against eligibility. Jaydon Grant was granted a medical waiver which reclassified him as a redshirt sophomore at the time. Oladapo and Chatfield have both played five seasons and both had one redshirt season as well. So again, it looks like their eligibility is up barring any possible waiver they might have pursued.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 12, 2024 21:02:17 GMT -8
Grant's case is pretty clear-cut. You get one regular redshirt year, and one medical hardship year. Redshirted in 2016, still has four years Only played in three games in 2017, then hurt and missed rest of the season. Played full season in 2018, three years left Played full season in 2019, two seasons left Free year for Covid in 2020 Played full year in 2021, one season left after medical hardship waiver for 2017 granted. Played full season in 2022, eligibility exhausted. And, this is different from previous years, when having a non-injury redshirt season precluded you from being granted an additional year for a medical redshirt. I believe Tim Euhus was in this situation, where he red shirted as a true frosh, then was injured and missed a season, but in those days they would not grant a medical hardship if you had taken a non-medical redshirt year.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 13, 2024 9:55:27 GMT -8
I know that happened to Dan Rothwell and Joe Newton and Pat Chaffey too I think. Chaffey broke his leg late in fall camp in 1985 and missed the entire season.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 13, 2024 14:48:14 GMT -8
I know that happened to Dan Rothwell and Joe Newton and Pat Chaffey too I think. Chaffey broke his leg late in fall camp in 1985 and missed the entire season. I may have mixed up Newton and Euhus. It was a TE from the early 2000s. Anyhow, the point being that Grant benefitted from the relaxing of that rule, where some previous Beavers only got to participate in 3 seasons due to that rule.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 13, 2024 15:07:01 GMT -8
I know that happened to Dan Rothwell and Joe Newton and Pat Chaffey too I think. Chaffey broke his leg late in fall camp in 1985 and missed the entire season. I may have mixed up Newton and Euhus. It was a TE from the early 2000s. Anyhow, the point being that Grant benefitted from the relaxing of that rule, where some previous Beavers only got to participate in 3 seasons due to that rule. I believe that you are thinking of Newton. Newton redshirted in 2002. Newton played his freshman and sophomore seasons in 2003 and 2004, respectively, and then missed his entire junior season in 2005, being unable to redshirt, because he redshirted in 2002. Newton's injury was a big reason why the season was so awful in 2005 and why the offense had to rely so heavily on Mike Hass. Newton returned in 2006 and was a huge part in the 10-4 season.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 13, 2024 15:36:57 GMT -8
I know that happened to Dan Rothwell and Joe Newton and Pat Chaffey too I think. Chaffey broke his leg late in fall camp in 1985 and missed the entire season. I may have mixed up Newton and Euhus. It was a TE from the early 2000s. Anyhow, the point being that Grant benefitted from the relaxing of that rule, where some previous Beavers only got to participate in 3 seasons due to that rule. Yeah, and now the rules have swung two far the other way, with guys getting 6 and 7 years to play 4, with 2,3 or 4 transfers.
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Post by ag87 on Jan 14, 2024 12:40:06 GMT -8
I may have mixed up Newton and Euhus. It was a TE from the early 2000s. Anyhow, the point being that Grant benefitted from the relaxing of that rule, where some previous Beavers only got to participate in 3 seasons due to that rule. I believe that you are thinking of Newton. Newton redshirted in 2002. Newton played his freshman and sophomore seasons in 2003 and 2004, respectively, and then missed his entire junior season in 2005, being unable to redshirt, because he redshirted in 2002. Newton's injury was a big reason why the season was so awful in 2005 and why the offense had to rely so heavily on Mike Hass. Newton returned in 2006 and was a huge part in the 10-4 season. I bumped into Newton in the fall of 2011. It was the year OSU had a losing record. Newton had been cut by the Seahawks and was working as a forester. I said I wish you could help the Beavs get back on track this year. He laughed. He said he wanted to and would play under a fake name if he thought he could get away with it.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 14, 2024 13:38:29 GMT -8
I believe that you are thinking of Newton. Newton redshirted in 2002. Newton played his freshman and sophomore seasons in 2003 and 2004, respectively, and then missed his entire junior season in 2005, being unable to redshirt, because he redshirted in 2002. Newton's injury was a big reason why the season was so awful in 2005 and why the offense had to rely so heavily on Mike Hass. Newton returned in 2006 and was a huge part in the 10-4 season. I bumped into Newton in the fall of 2011. It was the year OSU had a losing record. Newton had been cut by the Seahawks and was working as a forester. I said I wish you could help the Beavs get back on track this year. He laughed. He said he wanted to and would play under a fake name if he thought he could get away with it. Joe Newton's cousin gave me my first coronavirus shot three years ago. She said that he is still in forestry in the state and is really enjoying it. I got the shot on the day of the Sweet Sixteen game against Loyola-Chicago.
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