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Post by ftd on Jan 9, 2024 10:18:26 GMT -8
Beavs out of top 25. Not a surprise
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Post by highincascadia on Jan 9, 2024 17:54:51 GMT -8
Yep truly an unfortunate way to end a historical season, especially with such promise in the preseason to boot. Really would have been nice if Washington won yesterday so we could at least say we held the undefeated "champions" to the slimmest margin.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 9, 2024 19:00:55 GMT -8
Yep truly an unfortunate way to end a historical season, especially with such promise in the preseason to boot. Really would have been nice if Washington won yesterday so we could at least say we held the undefeated "champions" to the slimmest margin. You would have to hear the huskies talk about it until you die. Ever hear a duck talk about the natty? No you don't and it's the best.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 9, 2024 21:57:26 GMT -8
Yep truly an unfortunate way to end a historical season, especially with such promise in the preseason to boot. Really would have been nice if Washington won yesterday so we could at least say we held the undefeated "champions" to the slimmest margin. You would have to hear the huskies talk about it until you die. Ever hear a duck talk about the natty? No you don't and it's the best. The Huskies already have five national championships, though. Plus, Washington is not Oregon State's primary rival like Oregon. Add to that that Washington made no real effort to continue one of the most-played rivalry games in the country. Illinois and Michigan were the primary schools responsible for luring away Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington in the first place. They are the cause of Oregon State's current problems, and Washington was merely a symptom. Still, at least now you can claim there was an asterisk, because Michigan should get this "championship" vacated soon.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 9, 2024 22:34:34 GMT -8
You would have to hear the huskies talk about it until you die. Ever hear a duck talk about the natty? No you don't and it's the best. The Huskies already have five national championships, though. Plus, Washington is not Oregon State's primary rival like Oregon. Add to that that Washington made no real effort to continue one of the most-played rivalry games in the country. Illinois and Michigan were the primary schools responsible for luring away Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington in the first place. They are the cause of Oregon State's current problems, and Washington was merely a symptom. Still, at least now you can claim there was an asterisk, because Michigan should get this "championship" vacated soon. Why would it be vacated? It's not an NCAA event, not hamstrung by any NCAA ruling.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 10, 2024 5:19:07 GMT -8
The Huskies already have five national championships, though. Plus, Washington is not Oregon State's primary rival like Oregon. Add to that that Washington made no real effort to continue one of the most-played rivalry games in the country. Illinois and Michigan were the primary schools responsible for luring away Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington in the first place. They are the cause of Oregon State's current problems, and Washington was merely a symptom. Still, at least now you can claim there was an asterisk, because Michigan should get this "championship" vacated soon. Why would it be vacated? It's not an NCAA event, not hamstrung by any NCAA ruling. It won’t be vacated. They are just the Houston Astros of college football.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 10, 2024 5:51:10 GMT -8
You would have to hear the huskies talk about it until you die. Ever hear a duck talk about the natty? No you don't and it's the best. The Huskies already have five national championships, though. Plus, Washington is not Oregon State's primary rival like Oregon. Add to that that Washington made no real effort to continue one of the most-played rivalry games in the country. Illinois and Michigan were the primary schools responsible for luring away Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington in the first place. They are the cause of Oregon State's current problems, and Washington was merely a symptom. Still, at least now you can claim there was an asterisk, because Michigan should get this "championship" vacated soon. Sure they do. As Chris hilariously stated on the broadcast, "The only one that really counts" referring to 1991.
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Post by bdc101 on Jan 10, 2024 9:23:56 GMT -8
This year it seems almost inappropriate to publish a final poll. The landscape of the "top 25" has changed so drastically that it doesn't look anything like it did in the last week of the regular season. Teams throughout the top 25 are completely dismantled. Hardly anything is the same as it was. Saying that OSU was not in the best 25 teams this season was wrong, but only because of events that happened after the last game of the regular season. In the first 14 weeks OSU was inarguably among the top 25. So it's more apparent than ever that the final poll is just "what happened this week"
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 10, 2024 22:42:04 GMT -8
This year it seems almost inappropriate to publish a final poll. The landscape of the "top 25" has changed so drastically that it doesn't look anything like it did in the last week of the regular season. Teams throughout the top 25 are completely dismantled. Hardly anything is the same as it was. Saying that OSU was not in the best 25 teams this season was wrong, but only because of events that happened after the last game of the regular season. In the first 14 weeks OSU was inarguably among the top 25. So it's more apparent than ever that the final poll is just "what happened this week" The polls are as accurate as the day that they come out. If you want to see an accurate poll of where Oregon State was this season, look at the one seven weeks ago. But that opens the door for mythical national championships by other teams.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 10, 2024 22:50:18 GMT -8
The Huskies already have five national championships, though. Plus, Washington is not Oregon State's primary rival like Oregon. Add to that that Washington made no real effort to continue one of the most-played rivalry games in the country. Illinois and Michigan were the primary schools responsible for luring away Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington in the first place. They are the cause of Oregon State's current problems, and Washington was merely a symptom. Still, at least now you can claim there was an asterisk, because Michigan should get this "championship" vacated soon. Why would it be vacated? It's not an NCAA event, not hamstrung by any NCAA ruling. Reggie Bush lost his Heisman Trophy. Non-NCAA events can still be affected by NCAA rulings. The NCAA has near absolute power over its member universities.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 10, 2024 23:08:51 GMT -8
Why would it be vacated? It's not an NCAA event, not hamstrung by any NCAA ruling. Reggie Bush lost his Heisman Trophy. Non-NCAA events can still be affected by NCAA rulings. The NCAA has near absolute power over its member universities. The CFP has no connection to NCAA management. The Heisman and NCAA are also not connected organizations. USC returned their copy of the trophy because of NCAA sanctions vs the school. Reggie was not required to return his as the Heisman Committee is not controlled by any NCAA sanctions. After the 2010 ruling and heavy sanctions against USC Reggie voluntarily returned his trophy, but not til 2012. And not because the NCAA had the power to make him. The Heisman Trust has stated that the trophy is his again if & when USC reinstates his 2005 records. Think what you want about the NCAA's absolute power, they have none over the CFP or the playoff & title.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 10, 2024 23:13:41 GMT -8
Reggie Bush lost his Heisman Trophy. Non-NCAA events can still be affected by NCAA rulings. The NCAA has near absolute power over its member universities. The CFP has no connection to NCAA management. The Heisman and NCAA are also not connected organizations. USC returned their copy of the trophy because of NCAA sanctions vs the school. Reggie was not required to return his as the Heisman Committee is not controlled by any NCAA sanctions. After the 2010 ruling and heavy sanctions against USC Reggie voluntarily returned his trophy, but not til 2012. And not because the NCAA had the power to make him. The Heisman Trust has stated that the trophy is his again if & when USC reinstates his 2005 records. Think what you want about the NCAA's absolute power, they have none over the CFP or the playoff & title. Thank you for more eloquently elucidating my point. The NCAA has the power to make a member institution give back any trophy and vacate any championship.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 10, 2024 23:17:59 GMT -8
The CFP has no connection to NCAA management. The Heisman and NCAA are also not connected organizations. USC returned their copy of the trophy because of NCAA sanctions vs the school. Reggie was not required to return his as the Heisman Committee is not controlled by any NCAA sanctions. After the 2010 ruling and heavy sanctions against USC Reggie voluntarily returned his trophy, but not til 2012. And not because the NCAA had the power to make him. The Heisman Trust has stated that the trophy is his again if & when USC reinstates his 2005 records. Think what you want about the NCAA's absolute power, they have none over the CFP or the playoff & title. Thank you for more eloquently elucidating my point. The NCAA has the power to make a member institution give back any trophy and vacate any championship. 1) it's not "their" championship to vacate; (2) the trophy goes to an individual. SC's was a replica... not the actual trophy. They made SC return a copy. Had no power to take Reggie's. And... "PHOENIX (AP) — NCAA President Charlie Baker says Michigan won the national championship “fair and square...”
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Post by easyheat on Jan 10, 2024 23:40:28 GMT -8
Michigan was the best team in the country.
Harbaugh was the best coach in the country. Poll his peers.
There are politics at work within the B1G - Michigan is kicking everybody's a$$ and there are folks that would like to see Michigan sanctioned and Harbaugh out of the building.
Inappropriate contact with a prospective recruit during a "Quiet" or "dead" period during the Covid Pandemic? Stealing signals? Harbaugh is the first coach in history to ever be accused of or commit those awful sins.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 11, 2024 0:07:12 GMT -8
Michigan was the best team in the country. Harbaugh was the best coach in the country. Poll his peers. There are politics at work within the B1G - Michigan is kicking everybody's a$$ and there are folks that would like to see Michigan sanctioned and Harbaugh out of the building. Inappropriate contact with a prospective recruit during a "Quiet" or "dead" period during the Covid Pandemic? Stealing signals? Harbaugh is the first coach in history to ever be accused of or commit those awful sins. Lol! Hilarious satire! Great stuff! But seriously, no, absolutely not. No. Harbaugh sucks. And Michigan and their fanbase suck worse. They can all die in a meteor strike. Thanks for your input, though, Jim H., whoever you are.
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