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Post by grayman on Jan 8, 2024 15:56:02 GMT -8
Hunter is a true point guard. The Beavers do need to focus more on passing to move the ball down the court but they showed in earlier games that they are quite capable of doing so. But I disagree if anyone is trying to imply that Hunter isn't able to handle the ball against pressure. She's shown time and again that she is more than capable. And has done it without piling up a ton of turnovers to this point. I think the matchups were really bad for Rees. She just seems to struggle to hang on to the ball in traffic or have any real ability to be effective on offense, particularly in the inside game, against players of this caliber. That probably won't change much for the Pac-12 season and a big reason that they need Gardiner in the lineup and not rely as much on Rees. Personally, I think Rueck should have a quicker hook for Marotte. I've not seen too many players that look so good when they play well and then totally disappear in other games. She played a ton of minutes over the weekend for eight total points a few rebounds and a couple turnovers. If she was an elite defensive stopper, then maybe. And I mean elite, not somewhat better on D than those that spend more time on the bench.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 8, 2024 16:15:14 GMT -8
OSU dribbles too much no matter who has the ball. Donovan is young and handling herself well, but she isn't the "answer" (yet) when facing quality and experience at that position. It is a lot of the same issue with the MBB program. With (1) or no real instead presence the ball is on the outside far too much, typically being dribbled to move the ball vs the creation of passing lanes with off-ball movement. Part of the issue with SR's construct is you much have great off ball movement or the defense will take away reversals/ball movement. OSU seems to be stuck on one side of the court too often. Every so often Beers will find an opposite diagonal, but people are just standing/waiting and the passing lanes are very tight. There simply needs to be more off ball movement, being harder to guard especially when the ball goes inside. Simple "exchanges" make the defense turn their head to find movement and open windows. OSU has looked good vs below par defensive teams, but are too stagnant vs better athletes that close down lanes and can get to stationary shooters. The good news is is more of an OSU issue that can be adjusted than a lack of ability/talent. Rees is what she is... same as when with Utah. She got a bit too much hype on here due to the quality of the NC competition. She is a backup that can provided some versatile, valuable minutes in that role. But, you can't expect much more, that is not who she is. I've noticed we get better ball movement with Timea at the high post, and better high post to low post (Raegan) passing. Ball gets stuck when it comes into Kelsey and Kelsey gets pushed around & knocked off center by even small defenders. I like Kelsey, but it is time to insert Timea into the starting lineup. Timea has earned it with her rebounding, passing and shooting. It's a waste to not have Timea in the starting lineup. Plus, and obviously don't coach her, but Timea doesn't seem to come off the bench with rhythm. She might need to be a starter to stay in the flow from warm-ups. Not every one can pop off the bench and get into playing mode. She just seems to be the type that needs to start.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 8, 2024 16:28:02 GMT -8
People got a little over their skis in several ways due to the NC competition.
Donovan will be fine. But, in Pac12 play she come crashing back to reality in terms of what some here were saying.
31 min/g 7.3 pts/g 41%/31% 12 A / 7 TO 2 rebounds 0 FTA
True Frosh... but, that's not overall real productive.
Timea is noticeably worse forwhat she should bring to the table:
24.7 min/g 7 pts/g 32%/21% 3 A / 2 TO 20 rebounds... very sound 4 FTA
Just need more consistent production from at least two more players. Even TVO is shooting just 39%/31%.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 8, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -8
People got a little over their skis in several ways due to the NC competition. Donovan will be fine. But, in Pac12 play she come crashing back to reality in terms of what some here were saying. 31 min/g 7.3 pts/g 41%/31% 12 A / 7 TO 2 rebounds 0 FTA True Frosh... but, that's not overall real productive. Timea is noticeably worse forwhat she should bring to the table: 24.7 min/g 7 pts/g 32%/21% 3 A / 2 TO 20 rebounds... very sound 4 FTA Just need more consistent production from at least two more players. Even TVO is shooting just 39%/31%. I think EVERYONE was aware that this road trip against 2 top ten ranked teams was a major step up in competition level from what the team had faced to date. 0-2 for the weekend is no surprise to literally anyone.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 8, 2024 17:49:46 GMT -8
People got a little over their skis in several ways due to the NC competition. Donovan will be fine. But, in Pac12 play she come crashing back to reality in terms of what some here were saying. 31 min/g 7.3 pts/g 41%/31% 12 A / 7 TO 2 rebounds 0 FTA True Frosh... but, that's not overall real productive. Timea is noticeably worse forwhat she should bring to the table: 24.7 min/g 7 pts/g 32%/21% 3 A / 2 TO 20 rebounds... very sound 4 FTA Just need more consistent production from at least two more players. Even TVO is shooting just 39%/31%. I think EVERYONE was aware that this road trip against 2 top ten ranked teams was a major step up in competition level from what the team had faced to date. 0-2 for the weekend is no surprise to literally anyone. Lol... thx for that captain obvious. End for a post that literally has very little of not zero to do with my post! 🤣
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 8, 2024 17:58:12 GMT -8
I think EVERYONE was aware that this road trip against 2 top ten ranked teams was a major step up in competition level from what the team had faced to date. 0-2 for the weekend is no surprise to literally anyone. Lol... thx for that captain obvious. End for a post that literally has very little of not zero to do with my post! 🤣 Just don’t get out over your figurative skis about it. LOL.
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Post by rmancarl on Jan 8, 2024 21:48:39 GMT -8
People got a little over their skis in several ways due to the NC competition. Donovan will be fine. But, in Pac12 play she come crashing back to reality in terms of what some here were saying. 31 min/g 7.3 pts/g 41%/31% 12 A / 7 TO 2 rebounds 0 FTA True Frosh... but, that's not overall real productive. Timea is noticeably worse forwhat she should bring to the table: 24.7 min/g 7 pts/g 32%/21% 3 A / 2 TO 20 rebounds... very sound 4 FTA Just need more consistent production from at least two more players. Even TVO is shooting just 39%/31%. There are definitely those who took the 12 non-conference games and overrated the Beavs, but I think the step up in opponent talent was only half the story. I think the first road trip played a huge role as well. In fact, judging the games as a whole, I now suspect the Beavs would have won at least one of the games, and maybe both if they were at home. I'll be really curious to see how the team now reacts. I could be wrong, but I think this group has more desire to improve than any Beaver team in recent history. I'll be really curious to see how the Friday game goes. Arizona is a step down from recent Arizona teams, but they proved last weekend that they could hang at home with Colorado and Utah. This is a huge game for the Beavs. You can't lose at home if you want to challenge the other contenders for spots 3-7 in the conference. I still have a little doubt about this team, but if they can have two strong games this week, it will show me a lot.
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Post by beav74 on Jan 8, 2024 22:07:30 GMT -8
Lots of Pac-12 teams will go 0-2 in LA. Here is how I would rank the road trips in the Pac-12. With 5 being difficult to 1 being easy
LA schools- 5 Washington schools- 3 Bay area- 3 Mountain schools 4 Desert schools- 2 Oregon schools- 2.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 8, 2024 22:09:55 GMT -8
Lots of Pac-12 teams will go 0-2 in LA. Here is how I would rank the road trips in the Pac-12. With 5 being difficult to 1 being easy LA schools- 5 Washington schools- 3 Bay area- 3 Mountain schools 4 Desert schools- 2 Oregon schools- 2. Unless SC gets a bit more consistent I might put the Mtn trip fairly even with LA?!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 9, 2024 5:33:40 GMT -8
Lots of Pac-12 teams will go 0-2 in LA. Here is how I would rank the road trips in the Pac-12. With 5 being difficult to 1 being easy LA schools- 5 Washington schools- 3 Bay area- 3 Mountain schools 4 Desert schools- 2 Oregon schools- 2. Unless SC gets a bit more consistent I might put the Mtn trip fairly even with LA?! Pre Kneepkens and Palmer injuries - without a doubt. Utes are still really good, but I don’t see them being quite as good offensively without those two (they’ve been held to 65, 58, and 62 in regulation in their three Pac-12 games). They’re still very good.
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