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Post by easyheat on Dec 30, 2023 15:37:12 GMT -8
Any one have an opinion or strong feelings about our conference choice for baseball?
From my perspective, the discussion has centered on four potential options.
1. West Coast Conference
2. Mountain West Conference
3. Independent
4. BIG-12 affiliate in baseball only if offered.
The OSU Administration and OSU Baseball are preparing for the eventuality of having to make that decision. What does the Beaver baseball fan base have to say?
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Post by avidbeaver on Dec 30, 2023 16:25:18 GMT -8
I think they can be independent and have a schedule that is really tough. It would be easier to be part of a conference as far as 2/3 of a schedule being set. I think the Big West could be an option. The Big 12 would be a weird affiliation due to them not wanting any part of OS as a conference member. So, I don't think the Big 12 is an option for that reason. I think it would make the Big 12 look really bad if they allowed that to happen. All of that being said, I think independent would be the best if it wouldn't be a challenge to make a schedule. Could be done but it wouldn't be easy to make a schedule. The other options, I think would be fairly similar except for the Big 12 option, which I don't see happening because of what I said above. If I had to make a decision on the others I would say WCC, Big West(a few excellent programs), and MWC. In that order.
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 30, 2023 16:44:50 GMT -8
Big 12 affiliate. Few, if any, top schools are going to come to corvallis if you go independent
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Post by ftd on Dec 30, 2023 17:37:36 GMT -8
Any one have an opinion or strong feelings about our conference choice for baseball? From my perspective, the discussion has centered on four potential options. 1. West Coast Conference 2. Mountain West Conference 3. Independent 4. BIG-12 affiliate in baseball only if offered. The OSU Administration and OSU Baseball are preparing for the eventuality of having to make that decision. What does the Beaver baseball fan base have to say? NL West |
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Post by cake on Dec 30, 2023 18:09:55 GMT -8
My order of preference is: 1) Big West. 2) Big 12. 3) Independent. 4) West Coast Conference. 5-98)  99) Mountain West. That's for the next 2 years. After that, I think Independent goes down my list, but not as far as Mountain West. And Big 12 climbs to #1 after those 2 years. |
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Post by grayman on Dec 30, 2023 19:18:54 GMT -8
I think a split affiliate schedule with the Big 12 and the WCC or MWC would be great but probably not very viable.
So Big 12.
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Post by tamatrix on Dec 30, 2023 19:26:01 GMT -8
I thought I read that Big West coaches voted down letting the team join?
Sounds like Coach MC is building himself up a independent schedule that he's already pretty happy with if necessary too....
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Post by easyheat on Dec 30, 2023 21:58:36 GMT -8
It has been mentioned the Big West Conference has no interest in OSU or WSU as additions to their baseball picture.
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Post by cake on Dec 31, 2023 21:07:25 GMT -8
It has been mentioned the Big West Conference has no interest in OSU or WSU as additions to their baseball picture. I'm aware. Just stating my preference. Things can change, after all. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 1, 2024 0:10:29 GMT -8
My order of preference is: 1) Big West. 2) Big 12. 3) Independent. 4) West Coast Conference. 5-98) 99) Mountain West. That's for the next 2 years. After that, I think Independent goes down my list, but not as far as Mountain West. And Big 12 climbs to #1 after those 2 years. I will say that bigger conferences help/hurt your RPI more than smaller conferences. Because the Mountain West is so small, it may be that, at the end of the season, they would be a better choice than the Big West or West Coast Conference. I would also say that the WAC should be there somewhere on your list, if you are going to include the Big West and West Coast Conference. TCU hosted three consecutive Fort Worth Regionals as the Mountain West Regular Season Champion (only won the Mountain West Tournament once). Someone smarter than I might be able to crunch numbers to prove the concept, but I am not so sure that the Mountain West is not the best place for Oregon State baseball. |
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Jan 2, 2024 16:43:15 GMT -8
My order of preference is: 1) Big West. 2) Big 12. 3) Independent. 4) West Coast Conference. 5-98) 99) Mountain West. That's for the next 2 years. After that, I think Independent goes down my list, but not as far as Mountain West. And Big 12 climbs to #1 after those 2 years. I will say that bigger conferences help/hurt your RPI more than smaller conferences. Because the Mountain West is so small, it may be that, at the end of the season, they would be a better choice than the Big West or West Coast Conference. I would also say that the WAC should be there somewhere on your list, if you are going to include the Big West and West Coast Conference. TCU hosted three consecutive Fort Worth Regionals as the Mountain West Regular Season Champion (only won the Mountain West Tournament once). Someone smarter than I might be able to crunch numbers to prove the concept, but I am not so sure that the Mountain West is not the best place for Oregon State baseball. Mountain West is not comparable as a far as a baseball conference like it was 15 years ago. Mountain West, WCC, or WAC would mean probably no at large bid so would have to win conference championship. Big West maybe 2 teams get in starting in 2025 when they finally add a conference tournament? BIG 12 or Independent, that’s the move. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 2, 2024 17:12:40 GMT -8
I will say that bigger conferences help/hurt your RPI more than smaller conferences. Because the Mountain West is so small, it may be that, at the end of the season, they would be a better choice than the Big West or West Coast Conference. I would also say that the WAC should be there somewhere on your list, if you are going to include the Big West and West Coast Conference. TCU hosted three consecutive Fort Worth Regionals as the Mountain West Regular Season Champion (only won the Mountain West Tournament once). Someone smarter than I might be able to crunch numbers to prove the concept, but I am not so sure that the Mountain West is not the best place for Oregon State baseball. Mountain West is not comparable as a far as a baseball conference like it was 15 years ago. Mountain West, WCC, or WAC would mean probably no at large bid so would have to win conference championship. Big West maybe 2 teams get in starting in 2025 when they finally add a conference tournament? BIG 12 or Independent, that’s the move. Big 12 is definitely the play, if it is available. The Mountain West is pretty much the same old Mountain West of 15 years ago plus Fresno State. Trading out generally under-performing BYU and Utah for Nevada and San Jose State have not really hurt the conference either. |
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Post by Mike84 on Jan 2, 2024 18:56:24 GMT -8
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Post by jimbeav on Jan 3, 2024 21:39:40 GMT -8
Yeah, reports are that the WCC gave us a 30-day grace period to decide whether baseball was in our out on that deal. I'm betting Scott and Mitch are hitting the phone daily trying to get a schedule built within those 30 days.
I also have to wonder if the bigger challenge might be accomodating WSU. If it were just OSU, I think we could pull it off, but that would essentially 'leave WSU behind'. Getting teams to play WSU adds a lot of challenge, and if the preference is to play under the Pac-12 banner as Barnes says, then it sounds like WSU is part of that as well. I wonder how hard we're using our clout on their behalf...
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 4, 2024 7:52:52 GMT -8
I'm just kind of used to the idea that no one wants us. I suspect if they don't want us in baseball it's cuz they know we will come in and wreck s%#t.
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