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Post by grayman on Dec 16, 2023 17:54:18 GMT -8
I was thinking about teams losing players to the portal after spending the time and energy to develop them.
What I think should happen is any team that signs a player who has used two seasons of eligibility (so entering the true junior or redshirt junior season) should have to pay the team that had that player compensation.
It wouldn't stop the flood but at least schools like Oregon State would get something in return.
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Post by grayman on Dec 16, 2023 18:04:12 GMT -8
If you had some sort of scale that took into consideration starting status, games started and maybe even stats. Maybe instead of breaking it down by position you have to pay more for a QB and everyone else is a flat rate.
Say maybe 50k for a starting QB, 35k for all other starters, 20k for a non-starting QB and 5k for all other non-starters. And no charge for players who want to drop down a level.
It will probably never happen but it's a thought.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 17, 2023 12:18:22 GMT -8
Players, no matter how some want to look at it, are not employees... as of now. You can't restrict their movement or induce compensation without immediate litigation which will cost you millions and you'd lose.
Even current NCAA transfer and NIL policies are being challenged. Some need to come to grips with the fact all these "ideas" are fantasy. Schools aren't going to ever be compensated for development of players. Just as they aren't for scholars that move on to a different grad or research dept.
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Post by irimi on Dec 17, 2023 16:06:06 GMT -8
If you had some sort of scale that took into consideration starting status, games started and maybe even stats. Maybe instead of breaking it down by position you have to pay more for a QB and everyone else is a flat rate. Say maybe 50k for a starting QB, 35k for all other starters, 20k for a non-starting QB and 5k for all other non-starters. And no charge for players who want to drop down a level. It will probably never happen but it's a thought. How much would we have had to pay Clemson for DJU? To Clemson? Because they need it? And for one year with DJU. I think this only looks good now because we are losing many. |
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 17, 2023 16:16:31 GMT -8
If you had some sort of scale that took into consideration starting status, games started and maybe even stats. Maybe instead of breaking it down by position you have to pay more for a QB and everyone else is a flat rate. Say maybe 50k for a starting QB, 35k for all other starters, 20k for a non-starting QB and 5k for all other non-starters. And no charge for players who want to drop down a level. It will probably never happen but it's a thought. How much would we have had to pay Clemson for DJU? To Clemson? Because they need it? And for one year with DJU. I think this only looks good now because we are losing many. Funny how some think/forget OSU doesn't recruit high level talent but develops players better than a lot. So we'd be getting low return on players we developed none of the elite wanted at first. But, a player like DJU we'd have to pay a ton for. Do how does an already lower budget school benefit? It's just another rich get richer idea. And... is there now like bidding wars? A player auction? Cuz, like who defines "starting" QB? Like is Chiles a $50k guy because he may be the starter but really never has? Or? So something just short of indentured servitude? We invested these much into this human we need this much back? And, being this human is a QB they are worth more? |
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Post by grayman on Dec 17, 2023 18:00:53 GMT -8
Players, no matter how some want to look at it, are not employees... as of now. You can't restrict their movement or induce compensation without immediate litigation which will cost you millions and you'd lose. Even current NCAA transfer and NIL policies are being challenged. Some need to come to grips with the fact all these "ideas" are fantasy. Schools aren't going to ever be compensated for development of players. Just as they aren't for scholars that move on to a different grad or research dept. I think the restriction of movement is debatable because it could be based on player status (position and eligibility) not the individual player as long as you leave out stats. Not sure whether inducing compensation would be cause for litigation. This would be something that all teams under the NCAA umbrella (or whatever it might become) would have to agree to. Not something just Oregon State would try to do. But yeah, as I said, it's probably not going to happen. This "idea" was just me floating something out there. |
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Post by grayman on Dec 17, 2023 18:18:10 GMT -8
How much would we have had to pay Clemson for DJU? To Clemson? Because they need it? And for one year with DJU. I think this only looks good now because we are losing many. Funny how some think/forget OSU doesn't recruit high level talent but develops players better than a lot. So we'd be getting low return on players we developed none of the elite wanted at first. But, a player like DJU we'd have to pay a ton for. Do how does an already lower budget school benefit? It's just another rich get richer idea. And... is there now like bidding wars? A player auction? Cuz, like who defines "starting" QB? Like is Chiles a $50k guy because he may be the starter but really never has? Or? So something just short of indentured servitude? We invested these much into this human we need this much back? And, being this human is a QB they are worth more? Chiles was not a starting QB for OSU, so no. It seems that what you really want is for money to be erased completely from college sports. It shouldn't have gotten to this point but expecting it to change at this point is just fantasy. |
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