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Post by blodgettbeaver on Dec 4, 2023 0:20:23 GMT -8
Will we have legit Friday and Saturday guys this year?
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Post by badwack on Dec 4, 2023 7:15:28 GMT -8
Based on last year the answer would be no. However, this 2024 looks like a legit Omaha threat with our potential hitting. The Pitching Staff? Looks like we will have to wait to see how the early season goes. Should be a great and exciting season!
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Post by ricke71 on Dec 4, 2023 11:55:16 GMT -8
I'm hopeful that 2024 Friday (at least) will be 'more' legit than 2023....though likely below some of the very 'legit' seasons in the not-too-distant past.
Not even considering any new faces, the true veteran threesome: Kmatz-Hunter-Lattery had 30 starts last season, including 20 PAC-12. Time will tell if they've learned anything new that could 'up' their game to being an excellent Friday night starter.
(Hunter was 0.92 WHIP in the PAC in 2023)
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Post by zeroposter on Dec 4, 2023 12:29:00 GMT -8
Barring a bunch of injuries, the Beaver pitching staff will be far better than last season. Zero doubt in my mind. May is a Friday type arm who has 3 quality pitches and command. A healthy Kmatz will hold one of the spots. A healthy Hunter May have helped get the Beavers to at least a super last season. A healthy JM with command is a big time closer. There are three of the young guys from last season that I view as potential starters. Lattery has the stuff if he gets the mindset. Add in the experienced transfers and the team has quality starters, depth, and closers. A whole lot of ‘ifs and healthy’ stuff but this staff has potential to be far better than last season. Imho and I fully admit I know squat, but I am optimistic.
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Post by 68beav on Dec 5, 2023 14:34:47 GMT -8
I'm a bit perplexed. I attended a lot of fall ball and was real excited about the offense and fielding. I saw a lot of new pitchers in short stints that looked to have promise, and a few of the returners. Nothing overwhelming pitching-wise though - but, again, not much to go on. Going in to the fall-ending Orange and Black scrimmage I expected to see a slugfest, but it was anything but that. I believe it ended up 6:2 or something close to that - most of the six were in one inning as a result of three passed balls. I believe that in the whole game there were only two extra-base hits (Santanna and Kaspar). The pitching was very good. Of new faces (to us) May (in that scrimmage, and in previous fall ball starts) looked good, and the bunch of new faces looked equally good.
I'm very optimistic for the season and can't wait for Surprise.
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Post by ftd on Dec 5, 2023 17:30:10 GMT -8
My thought is they gonna be GREAT...Like Tony the Tiger GREAT
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Post by richard44 on Dec 5, 2023 18:22:58 GMT -8
Our pitching should be really good this year, and especially deep. We have four veteran guys who have started a lot of big time games, May (Friday night), Kmatz (Saturday), Hunter or Lattery (Sunday). All those guys have thrown gobs of innings over their career, and won’t see anything that they haven’t faced already. Look for Keljo (6’4” 232 pound lefty who throws 95+) to push for a starter role as well.
In addition, according to D1 baseball, we are loaded with dudes who have some real velocity in our freshman and sophomore classes (bullpen guys). Remember too, a handful of bullpen guys got a lot of quality innings last year (Hutcheson, Keljo, Jimenez, Mejia). Throw in a few vets (Lawson and Mundt), and a few young studs who throw gas (Palmer and Decremer) and we are very well rounded out of the pen.
I think we absolutely take a step up this year with our pitching all around.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 5, 2023 19:49:39 GMT -8
With all the positive expectations...
Is this one of, if not the most, inexperienced staffs in a long while?
With really no quality Friday night guy that's typical of an OSU staff. May had only (3) quality starts out of 16... with a BAA over .300, ERA over 6.00. More worrisome, 75 IP in 16 starts! Those are numbers that wouldn't start on Tuesdays for OSU.
A bunch of youngsters best step up big time.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Dec 5, 2023 20:09:19 GMT -8
I think we'll have a good idea around May.
I'm most excited for Aiden Jimenez. He really figured it out at the end of last season and had a great summer in cape cod. Was one of the all star pitchers for summer league and cape cod league is the real deal. It's literally the top collegiate summer league for MLB prospects.
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Post by beaver1989 on Dec 5, 2023 21:07:06 GMT -8
I think we'll have a good idea around May. I'm most excited for Aiden Jimenez. He really figured it out at the end of last season and had a great summer in cape cod. Was one of the all star pitchers for summer league and cape cod league is the real deal. It's literally the top collegiate summer league for MLB prospects. IMO Jimenez doesn't get enough credit for his outstanding outing against Sam Houston in the Baton Rouge Regional. We were coming off a close loss to LSU earlier that day, our bats were dead, our starter left early, SH pitchers were throwing junk, we were tired, etc. Enter young Jimenez, who if IIRC pitched 6 innings of shutout ball. |
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Post by ricke71 on Dec 6, 2023 10:05:42 GMT -8
With all the positive expectations... Is this one of, if not the most, inexperienced staffs in a long while? With really no quality Friday night guy that's typical of an OSU staff. May had only (3) quality starts out of 16... with a BAA over .300, ERA over 6.00. More worrisome, 75 IP in 16 starts! Those are numbers that wouldn't start on Tuesdays for OSU. A bunch of youngsters best step up big time. About 65% of the innings pitched last season return. Innings-wise the main losses were Sellers & Ferrar (who accounted for 23% of the innings in 2023). Both were inconsistent in the final month. What's missing is an obvious Friday Night starter ala Rasmussen, Hjerpe, Abel, Jake Thompson, Heimlich. If one steps up: watch out! I'm far from convinced re: Aiden May and his 1.73 whip. Both Stanford (in Palo Alto) and Air Force (in Tucson) jumped all over him in May. |
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 6, 2023 11:09:39 GMT -8
With all the positive expectations... Is this one of, if not the most, inexperienced staffs in a long while? With really no quality Friday night guy that's typical of an OSU staff. May had only (3) quality starts out of 16... with a BAA over .300, ERA over 6.00. More worrisome, 75 IP in 16 starts! Those are numbers that wouldn't start on Tuesdays for OSU. A bunch of youngsters best step up big time. About 65% of the innings pitched last season return. Innings-wise the main losses were Sellers & Ferrar (who accounted for 23% of the innings in 2023). Both were inconsistent in the final month. What's missing is an obvious Friday Night starter ala Rasmussen, Hjerpe, Abel, Jake Thompson, Heimlich. If one steps up: watch out! I'm far from convinced re: Aiden May and his 1.73 whip. Both Stanford (in Palo Alto) and Air Force (in Tucson) jumped all over him in May. Yes... definitely have no true Friday night guy. I'm a bit leery of those that think a transfer/new pitching coach will suddenly change a pitcher. Especially if they consider him a Friday night guy. Also, it's more about how a pitcher performed in those innings than the % that returns. Of course we expect growth and improvement, but it seems to be far less top line innings returning than in the past?! We have some nice starting pieces that have had their moments. But, none as of now have developed into consistent weekend guys. Many have "great stuff", but have been as much "throwers" as "pitchers". As far as summer ball... completely different atmosphere and not really applicable to this Spring. Tons of great summer seasons have lead no where. Add... (13) RHP and only (2) LHP listed on the current roster?? Besides Hunter, Kmatz, Jimenez... great summer, but only 38 IP and a 5.68 ERA last season... only 17 Pac12 IP with a 7.41 Lattery... with .224 BAA seems to have a shot to break through... but, again 5.60 ERA in 27 Pac12 IP Mundt... who knows what he can/will bring?? Hutcheson... too many walks yet unhittable when in the zone, 5.40 ERA, and only 14 Pac12 IP Lawson... another guy like Hutch... better ERA at just under 4.00, again only 14 Pac12 IP Keljo... lefty version of the last two? ERA of 5.40 overall, too many BB, only 8.0 Pac12 IP with (11) BB, 4.50 ERA Mejia... lefty a LOT like the last three... too many BBs, ERA near 5.00, 13.2 Pac12 IP with 5.27 ERA and 10 BB. Of the new comers with no D1 experience: Scott... 3-9, over 4.00 ERA at Cal Poly Holmes seems to have the most experience, success, and numbers. We'll see how that translates Montgomery from an Iowa CC was 1-1, in only 16 IP with 8.44 ERA in conference play. Was 3-1, 5.13 overall, almost 12 K/9 IP These guys will be complete unknowns until they see D1/Pac12 action: Oakes, Talavs, Ferguson, Johnson, Morrell, Palmer, Segura, Reynolds, DeCremer. I may have missed some roster guys, but just seems pretty iffy with lots of question marks? |
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Post by zeroposter on Dec 6, 2023 11:45:21 GMT -8
One of the posters in this thread is saying pretty much the identical things he said about the Friday night guy in 2022. Unproven. Not Friday night stuff. Bad stats. Cooper did okay for not being a Friday night guy. May has Friday starter stuff. We will see if he has the command. I expect the results to be far better than the much improved USC defense in football.
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Post by rgeorge on Dec 6, 2023 13:00:20 GMT -8
One of the posters in this thread is saying pretty much the identical things he said about the Friday night guy in 2022. Unproven. Not Friday night stuff. Bad stats. Cooper did okay for not being a Friday night guy. May has Friday starter stuff. We will see if he has the command. I expect the results to be far better than the much improved USC defense in football. Since one has absolutely "zero" to do with the other... an appropriate post from you. And, although you'd love your expectations to be factual each post was based on actual #s from the time of the post. So, although you'd like to be above "zero"... SC's defense was much improved at that point. And, the pitching stats posted are what they are... until they are not. As far as Cooper and this current assessment... neither stated conclusions. Both give factual information without obviously bias "expectations. FFS, I believe all OSU baseball fans have high expectations. But, again, your reading comprehension was again "zero" as the info was posted to express info on my original query, not make a prediction. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 6, 2023 13:08:21 GMT -8
About 65% of the innings pitched last season return. Innings-wise the main losses were Sellers & Ferrar (who accounted for 23% of the innings in 2023). Both were inconsistent in the final month. What's missing is an obvious Friday Night starter ala Rasmussen, Hjerpe, Abel, Jake Thompson, Heimlich. If one steps up: watch out! I'm far from convinced re: Aiden May and his 1.73 whip. Both Stanford (in Palo Alto) and Air Force (in Tucson) jumped all over him in May. Yes... definitely have no true Friday night guy. I'm a bit leery of those that think a transfer/new pitching coach will suddenly change a pitcher. Especially if they consider him a Friday night guy. Also, it's more about how a pitcher performed in those innings than the % that returns. Of course we expect growth and improvement, but it seems to be far less top line innings returning than in the past?! We have some nice starting pieces that have had their moments. But, none as of now have developed into consistent weekend guys. Many have "great stuff", but have been as much "throwers" as "pitchers". As far as summer ball... completely different atmosphere and not really applicable to this Spring. Tons of great summer seasons have lead no where. Add... (13) RHP and only (2) LHP listed on the current roster?? Besides Hunter, Kmatz, Jimenez... great summer, but only 38 IP and a 5.68 ERA last season... only 17 Pac12 IP with a 7.41 Lattery... with .224 BAA seems to have a shot to break through... but, again 5.60 ERA in 27 Pac12 IP Mundt... who knows what he can/will bring?? Hutcheson... too many walks yet unhittable when in the zone, 5.40 ERA, and only 14 Pac12 IP Lawson... another guy like Hutch... better ERA at just under 4.00, again only 14 Pac12 IP Keljo... lefty version of the last two? ERA of 5.40 overall, too many BB, only 8.0 Pac12 IP with (11) BB, 4.50 ERA Mejia... lefty a LOT like the last three... too many BBs, ERA near 5.00, 13.2 Pac12 IP with 5.27 ERA and 10 BB. Of the new comers with no D1 experience: Scott... 3-9, over 4.00 ERA at Cal Poly Holmes seems to have the most experience, success, and numbers. We'll see how that translates Montgomery from an Iowa CC was 1-1, in only 16 IP with 8.44 ERA in conference play. Was 3-1, 5.13 overall, almost 12 K/9 IP These guys will be complete unknowns until they see D1/Pac12 action: Oakes, Talavs, Ferguson, Johnson, Morrell, Palmer, Segura, Reynolds, DeCremer. I may have missed some roster guys, but just seems pretty iffy with lots of question marks? Cal Poly is a Big West Conference Division I program. |
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