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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 18, 2023 9:54:59 GMT -8
For goodness sake, wake up...the fact that ESPN went to a campus with an upcoming meaningless game rather than ours tells you everything you need to know about how much they're worried about future lawsuits and the possibility of opening their files as part of the discovery process. They were worried about unruly students, not lawsuits. They’re not worried at all about lawsuits. Exactly. I don't see how going to Corvallis would have exposed them to a potential lawsuit? That just does not compute. For goodness sake.  |
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Post by grackle on Nov 18, 2023 9:55:39 GMT -8
For goodness sake, wake up...the fact that ESPN went to a campus with an upcoming meaningless game rather than ours tells you everything you need to know about how much they're worried about future lawsuits and the possibility of opening their files as part of the discovery process. They were worried about unruly students, not lawsuits. They’re not worried at all about lawsuits. We'll agree to disagree. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 18, 2023 9:57:45 GMT -8
JMU had a huge crowd I'm told, more than 20k. Good for them. Gameday would have been great publicity for our program but a huge distraction for our players and coaches, with all the associated pregame nonsense they require. So just as well they didn't come here. You think so little of our players and coaches that you believe Gameday would've been a distraction for them? Some of the players and the head coach would have been forced to greatly alter their customary pre-game routine for the various interviews, etc. JS would have been required to appear on the show sometime between 6-9 a.m. and either stay in Corvallis on Friday night instead of accompanying the team to Lebanon, or force him to drive over long before team to do the interviews, and then drive back. Gameday also requires players and staff to appear on the Pat MacAfee Show on Friday. So yes, it would have been a huge distraction. Believe it or don't, but this is straight from somebody as close to the head coach as you can get. |
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Post by grackle on Nov 18, 2023 10:00:59 GMT -8
They were worried about unruly students, not lawsuits. They’re not worried at all about lawsuits. Exactly. I don't see how going to Corvallis would have exposed them to a potential lawsuit? That just does not compute. For goodness sake. If they had come to Corvallis, they would have had to delve into the realignment mess in detail...from BOTH sides. Not the best strategy for defendants like FOX or ESPN should there be future tampering or anti-trust litigation. |
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Post by grackle on Nov 18, 2023 10:02:49 GMT -8
You think so little of our players and coaches that you believe Gameday would've been a distraction for them? Some of the players and the head coach would have been forced to greatly alter their customary pre-game routine for the various interviews, etc. JS would have been required to appear on the show sometime between 6-9 a.m. and either stay in Corvallis on Friday night instead of accompanying the team to Lebanon, or force him to drive over long before team to do the interviews, and then drive back. Gameday also requires players and staff to appear on the Pat MacAfee Show on Friday. So yes, it would have been a huge distraction. Believe it or don't, but this is straight from somebody as close to the head coach as you can get. True...but I doubt that JS would have openly opposed Gameday being on campus. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 18, 2023 10:07:35 GMT -8
Exactly. I don't see how going to Corvallis would have exposed them to a potential lawsuit? That just does not compute. For goodness sake. If they had come to Corvallis, they would have had to delve into the realignment mess in detail...from BOTH sides. Not the best strategy for defendants like FOX or ESPN should there be future tampering or anti-trust litigation. They wouldn't HAVE to delve into anything they didn't want to delve into. ESPN Gameday reserves delving privileges. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 18, 2023 10:16:21 GMT -8
For goodness sake, wake up...the fact that ESPN went to a campus with an upcoming meaningless game rather than ours tells you everything you need to know about how much they're worried about future lawsuits and the possibility of opening their files as part of the discovery process. They were worried about unruly students, not lawsuits. They’re not worried at all about lawsuits. In one of Bill's foia search reports I think he mentioned that UCLA and USC apparently had it in their contracts that if they could help dissolve the Pac-12 they would get more money. Could have been sombodey else throwing in an opinion from their own imagination, happens a lot here. If true, and ESPN could be linked to paying the Big 10 more if the Pac12 could be dissolved, there could be some legitimate fear of lawsuits. It would probably have to be true though. |
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Post by grackle on Nov 18, 2023 10:21:12 GMT -8
If they had come to Corvallis, they would have had to delve into the realignment mess in detail...from BOTH sides. Not the best strategy for defendants like FOX or ESPN should there be future tampering or anti-trust litigation. They wouldn't HAVE to delve into anything they didn't want to delve into. ESPN Gameday reserves delving privileges. Yeah...you're probably right about that. But by avoiding Corvallis in favor of a meaningless game, Gameday has made my point -- they just don't want to add more fuel to an ever-expanding controversy that could end up really singeing their sorry a$$. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 18, 2023 10:23:32 GMT -8
Some of the players and the head coach would have been forced to greatly alter their customary pre-game routine for the various interviews, etc. JS would have been required to appear on the show sometime between 6-9 a.m. and either stay in Corvallis on Friday night instead of accompanying the team to Lebanon, or force him to drive over long before team to do the interviews, and then drive back. Gameday also requires players and staff to appear on the Pat MacAfee Show on Friday. So yes, it would have been a huge distraction. Believe it or don't, but this is straight from somebody as close to the head coach as you can get. True...but I doubt that JS would have openly opposed Gameday being on campus. True, but I don't think anyone on staff was sad when they chose JU instead. |
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Post by rgeorge on Nov 18, 2023 10:41:58 GMT -8
They were worried about unruly students, not lawsuits. They’re not worried at all about lawsuits. Exactly. I don't see how going to Corvallis would have exposed them to a potential lawsuit? That just does not compute. For goodness sake. He'll "agree to disagree", because you and most others will not fall into the made up fantasy world of potential lawsuits some seem so keen on. ESPN will not be sued by WSU/OSU or the Pac2. FFS they offered $30 mil to keep a conference together without the LA market. I'm sure Disney is shaking in their boots and has their best legal team laying in wait! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 18, 2023 10:48:44 GMT -8
True...but I doubt that JS would have openly opposed Gameday being on campus. True, but I don't think anyone on staff was sad when they chose JU instead. Y'know, hopefully, Smitty is able to wind the boys up about being snubbed. I keep hearing the asinine Michigan versus the World nonsense. It's Oregon State versus the World. It wouldn't be fair otherwise. Let's kill the Huskies! |
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Post by irimi on Nov 18, 2023 12:11:06 GMT -8
You think so little of our players and coaches that you believe Gameday would've been a distraction for them? Some of the players and the head coach would have been forced to greatly alter their customary pre-game routine for the various interviews, etc. JS would have been required to appear on the show sometime between 6-9 a.m. and either stay in Corvallis on Friday night instead of accompanying the team to Lebanon, or force him to drive over long before team to do the interviews, and then drive back. Gameday also requires players and staff to appear on the Pat MacAfee Show on Friday. So yes, it would have been a huge distraction. Believe it or don't, but this is straight from somebody as close to the head coach as you can get. That's sad because the only time Gameday would ever come to Corvallis is when there's a big match up. In fact, that's the design of Gameday. It's sad to think that our program can't handle it when other programs like UW or the Ducks can.
Perhaps you don't mean that it would affect the game; perhaps you just mean that it would not be the preferred routine for our coaches and players. I doubt very much that it would hamper CJS's focus on the game. Or the players.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 18, 2023 13:45:27 GMT -8
ESPN headlined our game entirely through the UW lens. At least they acknowledged we are favored but matters little. ESPN wants little to do with OSU. Oh yeah, the Jonas Bros. can go jump in Virginia’s North River! I really didn't get that impression. I houggt they covered it fairly...gave major props to ISUs offense. Im not getting this big secret conspiracy theory that ESPN is out to f%#* OSU tbh |
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Post by grayman on Nov 18, 2023 13:46:02 GMT -8
Some of the players and the head coach would have been forced to greatly alter their customary pre-game routine for the various interviews, etc. JS would have been required to appear on the show sometime between 6-9 a.m. and either stay in Corvallis on Friday night instead of accompanying the team to Lebanon, or force him to drive over long before team to do the interviews, and then drive back. Gameday also requires players and staff to appear on the Pat MacAfee Show on Friday. So yes, it would have been a huge distraction. Believe it or don't, but this is straight from somebody as close to the head coach as you can get. That's sad because the only time Gameday would ever come to Corvallis is when there's a big match up. In fact, that's the design of Gameday. It's sad to think that our program can't handle it when other programs like UW or the Ducks can.
Perhaps you don't mean that it would affect the game; perhaps you just mean that it would not be the preferred routine for our coaches and players. I doubt very much that it would hamper CJS's focus on the game. Or the players.
It would not have been difficult for OSU to handle. My guess is the info that Henry S. got comes from someone who was kind of speaking from an attitude of, Well, they aren't coming. Just as well. Would have been an extra pain in the butt leading into a big game. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Nov 18, 2023 14:40:10 GMT -8
JMU had a huge crowd I'm told, more than 20k. Good for them. Gameday would have been great publicity for our program but a huge distraction for our players and coaches, with all the associated pregame nonsense they require. So just as well they didn't come here. I get what you're saying, but I'm not so quick to just dismiss. ESPN cowardly avoided Corvallis. We miss out on the extra attention it brings to our program. I really don't see any downside to gameday being in Corvallis, and lots of upside. No way Smiths program let's that kind of distraction affect them! |
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