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Post by 86BEAVER on Nov 17, 2023 14:07:53 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10?
Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction.
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Post by jrbeavo on Nov 17, 2023 14:19:00 GMT -8
If that happened (and that is way, way down the road) I think it would likely wake up the sleepy folks in Salem and Olympia
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 17, 2023 14:21:06 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Oregon State and Wazzu should take the high road and assume that things are going to implode for at least 2-4 of the teams that left. And whether there is ever a reformed Pac-8, 9, 10, or 11+, Oregon State and Wazzu should be desirous to not be viewed as a bunch of petulant whiners. Quiet dignity is a very undervalued commodity in this day and age. |
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Post by rafer on Nov 17, 2023 14:22:50 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Take their candy!! Did we hear any of them giving a s%#te about those left out? Screw em!!.. |
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Post by 86BEAVER on Nov 17, 2023 14:25:58 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Oregon State and Wazzu should take the high road and assume that things are going to implode for at least 2-4 of the teams that left. And whether there is ever a reformed Pac-8, 9, 10, or 11+, Oregon State and Wazzu should be desirous to not be viewed as a bunch of petulant whiners. Quiet dignity is a very undervalued commodity in this day and age. Should we forgoe a potential financial gain like we MIGHT get after lawsuit against the Pac-12 Network for overpayments? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 17, 2023 14:30:16 GMT -8
Oregon State and Wazzu should take the high road and assume that things are going to implode for at least 2-4 of the teams that left. And whether there is ever a reformed Pac-8, 9, 10, or 11+, Oregon State and Wazzu should be desirous to not be viewed as a bunch of petulant whiners. Quiet dignity is a very undervalued commodity in this day and age. Should we forgoe a potential financial gain like we MIGHT get after lawsuit against the Pac-12 Network for overpayments? Which lawsuit are you referencing? |
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Post by 86BEAVER on Nov 17, 2023 14:34:03 GMT -8
Should we forgoe a potential financial gain like we MIGHT get after lawsuit against the Pac-12 Network for overpayments? Which lawsuit are you referencing? The one where Comcast (I think) claims to have overpaid rights fees to the league and it's somehow the league's fault for accepting the payments. Depending on how that goes there could be some 'real' money under OSU/WSU's discretion. |
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Post by jrbeavo on Nov 17, 2023 14:37:57 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Oregon State and Wazzu should take the high road and assume that things are going to implode for at least 2-4 of the teams that left. And whether there is ever a reformed Pac-8, 9, 10, or 11+, Oregon State and Wazzu should be desirous to not be viewed as a bunch of petulant whiners. Quiet dignity is a very undervalued commodity in this day and age. The balancing act is to get enough of a share of the settlement to allow us to approximate our budget for a few years, without completely stiffing the ten on their way out. They shouldn't get all, but they shouldn't get nothing either. Their suffering (if any) is for one year, with secured revenues into the future. Ours is the flip side of that...our situation is much more perilous
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 17, 2023 14:43:24 GMT -8
Which lawsuit are you referencing? The one where Comcast (I think) claims to have overpaid rights fees to the league and it's somehow the league's fault for accepting the payments. If they overpaid, then they overpaid. If the Pac-12 is not owed that money, they have to return it, just like everyone else would have to return extra money that they were errantly sent. This is not being given change for a $10 rather than a $5 at a gas station that is not worth the gas station's time. We are talking about a lot money. There is no lawsuit. And Oregon State and Wazzu could not sue, because they would basically be suing themselves. The Pac-12 is making that issue right this year, so it is not really a Pac-2 issue. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 17, 2023 14:44:01 GMT -8
Which lawsuit are you referencing? The one where Comcast (I think) claims to have overpaid rights fees to the league and it's somehow the league's fault for accepting the payments. Depending on how that goes there could be some 'real' money under OSU/WSU's discretion. That is already being taken care of, unless you are expecting Comcast to sue after they have been paid off. Comcast hasn't been paying the league since it was discovered, should be a zero balance come end of school year. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 17, 2023 14:49:57 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. No need to be punitive. There should be enough withheld to take care of unknown liabilities, and maybe even to rebuild the conference, but that should be a Conference deal not OSU and WSU. Withhold conference distributions from everyone, including us, take care of business, then split the leftover distribution money with all schools. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 17, 2023 15:09:41 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Money that is due to the conference is exactly that. As far as I’m concerned, any case for distributing those monies to departing members is a weak one and counterproductive to the conference’s continuing interests. Put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine 3 years ago OSU and WSU had gotten a lucrative invite to the Big-12 and announced their intention to leave to the other 10. Would we realistically expect those 10 to cut us and WSU in on any conference payments as departing members? I think that question answers itself. |
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Post by newduke2 on Nov 17, 2023 15:11:26 GMT -8
OSU and WSU should go the gates of hell and back.
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Nov 17, 2023 15:12:08 GMT -8
Quiet dignity is a very undervalued commodity in this day and age. Amen, Brother wilkyisdashiznit. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 17, 2023 15:19:01 GMT -8
.....in being 'punitive' re:$$$ against the Traitorous-10? Do we want to maintain any level of good-will with them? I saw something that suggested that if any/all decided they made a mistake that they just might try to form their own western conference without OSU/WSU as we still don't have big brands or markets. The $$$ could push things in that direction. Money that is due to the conference is exactly that. As far as I’m concerned, any case for distributing those monies to departing members is a weak one and counterproductive to the conference’s continuing interests. Put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine 3 years ago OSU and WSU had gotten a lucrative invite to the Big-12 and announced their intention to leave to the other 10. Would we realistically expect those 10 to cut us and WSU in on any conference payments? I think that question answers itself. There's nothing in the bylaws about withholding payments to current members that have announced they are leaving. UCLA and USC got their money last year. They just lose their voting rights. If we keep all of the money, we are going to get sued by all 10. We could potentially pay them less if we can prove damages, but paying them nothing for this year will not happen. |
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