OSU vs Southern Oregon(exhibition)

I appreciate your zeal for beaver athletics and your desire to put me into my place. At this point I could say water is wet or Joe Biden is a bad president and you’d find a way to argue with me.

Well he doesn’t like that I said Gavin was the most athletic guy over 6’9 in his class that I had seen on the AAU circuits, which I’ve seen most anyone worth seeing west of the Mississippi (I said that a month or two back)

I Based that statement on what I saw him do against other Top 250 recruits in his class including a top 10 recruit named Baye Fall that is going to Arkansas, and several other high major recruits…….and he was playing out of position as a 5 when he’s a 4/3 forward.

When a kid is forced to play 5 his entire career and he’s a 4/3 forward. The curve is a bit steeper……but regardless of where he is in his on court performance…….the athleticism is undeniable and confirmed by coaches, staff and players alike. Every time his name is brought up, his athleticism is the first thing mentioned.

He will bulk up when it’s his time, his dad looks like a Tight end, I saw his uncle one time at a game in Arizona and that guy looked like he coulda played Defensive end for the Seahawks. Gavin is just slow on the bulking curve.

He’s probably also mad that I have the utmost belief in an unproven kid based on all the factors I’ve witnessed. Donald Watts son played on his AAU team, and Donald absolutely loved him…Watts was a UW player and said “guys that size aren’t supposed to be able to move like that” I feel that my eyes and ears work really well and that my thoughts and opinions have been confirmed by people who I believe also know the game.

But……..it’s a team sport and you need to be what the team needs you to be. If you aren’t ready to be what the team needs you to be you work on becoming that player.

Rgeorge

You were fighting me long before the dichotomies you speak of. So I Call BS. Your crap toward me started long before the most recent thread you quoted.

I’d hope a 200 LB guy that played 15 high school basketball games In The last 3 years would get man handled by 4/5 interior players at a PAC 12 school. Especially early on in the practice season.

You’re right about one thing our conversation never revolves around WT so that was a cheap throw in by the other responder.

I have faith that the coaching staff has a good plan to use his length and speed in the 1-3-1 zone…….and that he will be used to guard the 3’s that are difficult to guard. Last I heard he is playing tomorrow (rumor is he asked to redshirt and the staff told him “no way”)

Guards are the only players on the floor that control how the game is played. I’ve seen inside players boys and girls from 13 to 18. They didn’t have good guards on their teams and it really limited them. Generally why you see teams with the best guards do very well in the NCAA tournament.

You know this…….. you keep arguing with me on the point of me saying that I haven’t seen anyone his size jump as high as he has and I haven’t seen anyone his size run as fast as he has…… you also talk about watching him in high school which you have all people would know that he hasn’t stepped on a high school basketball court with anybody that he should be playing against on a regular basis. Trying to gauge the talent level of a player who plays against 2A Washington competition, is pretty difficult.

The claim that I made was, there’s probably nobody who is both (in his class, at his size). Nobody has come with anything to refute that yet. Including you……you don’t know his verticals, you don’t know his shuttle times……I’ll be excited to watch……I believe the rate he improves and his trajectory will be amazing.

I appreciate your tempered expectations, there are 4000 NCAA division, one college basketball players at any given time. If you don’t buy into any hype, generally you are going to be correct on the assessment of each player individually. It will be fun to see what it looks like on the floor today.

I’m giving you the last word……..

There really is none. Which of the gazillion mentions do you comment on?? I'm not sure I have ever seen "goal posts" moved so many times?? A bit desultory in jumping all over. Talk about a scattershot approach signifying nothing?!

Hence... none required to the OP

But, Ohio do you remember a roster at OSU in recent memory with as much overall length? I'm not sure there is any great "talents" over sustained minutes. But, there is enough depth with length that even short minutes should give some teams trouble. Just not sure how stable and fluid the offense will be?