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Post by ricke71 on Oct 23, 2023 18:47:57 GMT -8
At least 5 time periods can be confirmed on various websites for 2024 Beaver baseball:
Feb. 16 - 19 in Surprise against Minnesota, New Mexico, CSU Bakersfield
The next weekend in Arlington, Texas against Arkansas, Michigan and Oklahoma State
April 5-9 in Goss against ASU
May 16-18 in Tucson vs. UA
<<<<<<< (stay south I imagine) >>>>>
May 21-25 PAC Tournament in Scottsdale
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 23, 2023 19:20:28 GMT -8
Cool we can see Dernedde in Arlington
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Post by whiskybeaver on Oct 23, 2023 20:07:44 GMT -8
North Dakota State at home March 1-3.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 23, 2023 20:18:19 GMT -8
North Dakota State at home March 1-3. Really? Nice RPI boost there! Luckily Arlington is a big boost to begin the season. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Oct 24, 2023 6:42:12 GMT -8
North Dakota State at home March 1-3. They played us tough in the 2014 Corvallis Regional. (2-1 Beav win in game 1) |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 24, 2023 9:08:16 GMT -8
There were 305 DI teams in 2023; NDSU was 184th in RPI. Not great but not a killer, either. You can't play top 25 or even top-50 teams every single weekend.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 24, 2023 10:25:11 GMT -8
There were 305 DI teams in 2023; NDSU was 184th in RPI. Not great but not a killer, either. You can't play top 25 or even top-50 teams every single weekend. No one expects EVERY weekend. But, no matter the excuses made the SEC is the most successful because they play the best competition on a consistent basis. The SEC literally plays 50-60%+ of their games vs Q1 teams... OSU 20%. "Killer" isn't one team, but multiple terrible RPI teams. This is new addition (RPI #188 I saw) that will probably be joined by multiple teams that were close to that in 2023... Seattle U #176 (x2), Zags #198 (x2), New Mexico #243 (x2), Minny #210, Coppin St #278 (x3), Cal Poly #168 (x3), Nevada #200 (x2), W Carolina #201 (x3). The Arlington trip will help. And, hopefully the Pac12 will again have 10 of the 11 in the Top 100. But, last season Oregon #30, UCSB #51, GCU #71, UP #106 (x2), San Diego #115 were the only decent NC opponents that would come close to sharpening skills for post season play. OSU's NC SOS was 174, we're a better program than that. As long as that continues no one should really complain when OSU is placed in tough regionals. When you play the fewest games (tied with Utah I think) vs Q1 teams in the 4th rated RPI conference you'll not get much respect come seeding time. When 20 or your 41 wins comes vs Q3 & Q4 it really does not prove much. Plus most of our fan base... that I sit near, travel with, talk to... would love to see better competition... come to Goss or travel to see. It's why going to Arlington is super exciting for our group. Actual post season type competition at a fantastic neutral site. Surprise is fine, but old news and truly run of the mill competition. Been there and done that too many times. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 24, 2023 10:58:55 GMT -8
The SEC plays 50% of its games against Q1 competition because almost all 30 league games are considered Q1. Whether they truly are or not.
Arkansas' OOC this year includes such powerhouses as James Madison (4), McNeese State (3), Murray State (3), San Jose State (2), Missouri State (2), Central Arkansas, Grambling, UALR, Arkansas State and UA Pine Bluff.
It does play Texas Tech (2) and Oral Robers.
But its OOC schedule is hardly Murderer's Row.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 24, 2023 11:54:30 GMT -8
Whether you agree with the ranking system is a moot point. It is what it is and it is a reality how it effects post season seeds. OSU can't control rankings or what the SEC does. But, it can certainly upgrade it's recent mediocre (at best) NC slate of games and play some Q1 NC games. OSU had (9) Q1 conference games, (1) Q1 NC vs Oregon, (2) Q1 games came in the post season vs LSU. The "system" is well known, not going to change very soon, so you'd better adjust.
Luckily they were invited to Arlington or my guess OSU would again probably not have a Q1 team in the NC (unless they again schedule Oregon or ??). If the schedule isn't going to be upgraded, there can't complaints about post season placements.
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Post by beaverinsider211 on Oct 24, 2023 13:11:50 GMT -8
North Dakota State at home March 1-3. They played us tough in the 2014 Corvallis Regional. (2-1 Beav win in game 1) I don’t think ND State has made a regional since… |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 24, 2023 15:37:25 GMT -8
The SEC plays 50% of its games against Q1 competition because almost all 30 league games are considered Q1. Whether they truly are or not. Arkansas' OOC this year includes such powerhouses as James Madison (4), McNeese State (3), Murray State (3), San Jose State (2), Missouri State (2), Central Arkansas, Grambling, UALR, Arkansas State and UA Pine Bluff. It does play Texas Tech (2) and Oral Robers. But its OOC schedule is hardly Murderer's Row. James Madison did well last year. McNeese puts together great ballclubs every year. (Oregon State played them in the Fort Worth Regional back in 2021.) San Jose State won the Mountain West last year. Missouri State also puts together great baseball teams pretty much every year. Murray State is trash, but it is only one weekend. Central Arkansas, Grambling, UALR, Arkansas State, and Pine Bluff (especially Pine Bluff) are all trash. But those are five midweek games. And if those teams suck, Arkansas is smart enough to pull a Bull Durham and claim that they are "rained out" even if there is not a cloud in the sky. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 24, 2023 15:39:59 GMT -8
They played us tough in the 2014 Corvallis Regional. (2-1 Beav win in game 1) I don’t think ND State has made a regional since… 2021? North Dakota State won the Summit League Tournament and played in the Stanford Regional. North Dakota State lost to Stanford 9-1, beat Nevada 6-1, and lost to Irvine 18-3. |
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 25, 2023 7:09:09 GMT -8
Whether you agree with the ranking system is a moot point. It is what it is and it is a reality how it effects post season seeds. OSU can't control rankings or what the SEC does. But, it can certainly upgrade it's recent mediocre (at best) NC slate of games and play some Q1 NC games. OSU had (9) Q1 conference games, (1) Q1 NC vs Oregon, (2) Q1 games came in the post season vs LSU. The "system" is well known, not going to change very soon, so you'd better adjust. Luckily they were invited to Arlington or my guess OSU would again probably not have a Q1 team in the NC (unless they again schedule Oregon or ??). If the schedule isn't going to be upgraded, there can't complaints about post season placements. Which Q1 OOC teams would you schedule right now? With a realistic chance to get them to Corvallis? And then they have to finish the season in Q1. Not as easy as an armchair AD makes it sound. It is just one of the many reasons it is SO hard for college baseball out of the PNW. All of that being said. I think this could be another banner year...run to Omaha! |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 25, 2023 9:46:21 GMT -8
Whether you agree with the ranking system is a moot point. It is what it is and it is a reality how it effects post season seeds. OSU can't control rankings or what the SEC does. But, it can certainly upgrade it's recent mediocre (at best) NC slate of games and play some Q1 NC games. OSU had (9) Q1 conference games, (1) Q1 NC vs Oregon, (2) Q1 games came in the post season vs LSU. The "system" is well known, not going to change very soon, so you'd better adjust. Luckily they were invited to Arlington or my guess OSU would again probably not have a Q1 team in the NC (unless they again schedule Oregon or ??). If the schedule isn't going to be upgraded, there can't complaints about post season placements. Which Q1 OOC teams would you schedule right now? With a realistic chance to get them to Corvallis? And then they have to finish the season in Q1. Not as easy as an armchair AD makes it sound. It is just one of the many reasons it is SO hard for college baseball out of the PNW. All of that being said. I think this could be another banner year...run to Omaha! It's pretty easy to NOT schedule W Carolina, Coppin State, etc, etc, etc. And, although fans may not like it, every once in a while you can play quality teams away from Goss. I mean you do have to play high caliber conference games away from home. Not to mention it is very likely that sometime in the postseason you'll need that experience. Stanford had a NC SOS that exceed OSU because they focus on quality teams and are not afraid to travel @ Fullerton, @ OK (their bye weekend), @ Santa Clara. Cali teams are easily accessible to OSU if they wanted. Plus a team like Stanford also wasn't afraid to schedule Texas Tech on a M/T during conference play. Oregon had a NC SOS of 19 last season, but OSU (174) can't do it? Hosting (10) games in February early March... Xavier, UCSB, and San Diego... all RPI 115 or better. Everyone plays weak sisters, but (18) of your 61 are Q4 teams and you only manage (12) Q1 only (1) in the regular season is NC, the schedule could be better. OSU ended up with the most Q3 + Q4 games(25) in the Pac12, with the least total Q1 games at (12). Again we're better than that and it hurts come post season seeding. For what it is worth Q3+Q4/Q1 Utah (21/12) WSU (20/13) UW (19/13) Oregon (18/22) USC (18/18) UCLA (15/18) Arizona (15/21) ASU (14/17) Cal (13/18) Stanford (12/24) OSU (25/12) Arlington gets it started by OSU getting to face 2023's #5 (Ark), #23 (OkSt), #122 (UM) RPI teams early on. who knows how these squads will be this season, but that's a start to a strong schedule. OSU needs to "beg" to attend on of the three weekends every year. |
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Post by cake on Oct 25, 2023 12:36:46 GMT -8
OSU ended up with the most Q3 + Q4 games(25) in the Pac12, with the least total Q1 games at (12). Again we're better than that and it hurts come post season seeding.
I think we should schedule a lot tougher as well, but last year was sort of an anomaly. We had the bye week the final week of the season, which meant not many teams wanted to come here. We could have 3 bigger games if anybody was available. In 2022, the bye week series was #133 RPI Long Beach State instead of #201 Western Carolina.
And a bunch of teams who are usually pretty good had down years.
Gonzaga went from #31 in 2022 to #198 in 2023.
Grand Canyon was #55, dropped to #71.
Nevada was #83, dropped to #220.
Portland was #91, dropped to #106.
But Xavier (#62) and UC Irvine (#87) swapped out for Cal Poly (#168) and Coppin State (#278) was not great. But then again, Cal Poly had been #99 in 2022, so another down year hurt us.
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