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Post by hottubbeaver on Oct 13, 2023 10:50:51 GMT -8
So far CU has far and away the most viewed games of any PAC team this season. It sure looks to me like OSU is squarely in second overall. You would think, if decisions are made purely based on the numbers, CU would be getting the best time slots and broadcasts, but they aren't. Last week they were buried on the P12 network, and this week they play after most of the east coast has gone to bed. Tonight at 8 PT. Our week one game vs SJS out drew every other PAC game except CU vs TCU. We outdrew some very good matchups and much higher density population bases- Florida vs Utah Virginia v Tennessee Boise v UW Louisville v GT Utah St vs Iowa Freson St. v Purdue (great game) Tex. Tech v Wyoming (great game) Tennessee St. v N.D. N. Texas v Cal Coastal Carolina v UCLA Stanford, Oregon, ASU, UA, USC didn't crack the list ... www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/#week2 |
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Post by 93beav on Oct 13, 2023 10:58:36 GMT -8
Eh, look at the day of the week. Our week one game was on a Sunday, up against big draws like FAMU @ Jackson St.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Oct 13, 2023 11:01:31 GMT -8
Eh, look at the day of the week. Our week one game was on a Sunday, up against big draws like FAMU @ Jackson St. Eh, first week and fans are starved for good football. Florida vs Utah was on a Thursday when fans were really excited for the season and we outdrew that game. |
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Post by 93beav on Oct 13, 2023 11:05:35 GMT -8
Eh, look at the day of the week. Our week one game was on a Sunday, up against big draws like FAMU @ Jackson St. Eh, first week and fans are starved for good football. Florida vs Utah was on a Thursday when fans were really excited for the season and we outdrew that game. Which was also competing with Nebraska @ Minnesota...which outdrew us.  All I'm saying is, yes, they were good numbers, but we need to see good numbers when matched against decent games. I don't expect us to be in the top five, but it would be great to be in the top ten consistently. WSU and Utah were in the 12-13 range. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Oct 13, 2023 11:12:16 GMT -8
Eh, first week and fans are starved for good football. Florida vs Utah was on a Thursday when fans were really excited for the season and we outdrew that game. Which was also competing with Nebraska @ Minnesota...which outdrew us. All I'm saying is, yes, they were good numbers, but we need to see good numbers when matched against decent games. I don't expect us to be in the top five, but it would be great to be in the top ten consistently. WSU and Utah were in the 12-13 range. Week 5 when our game started after much of the east coast was thinking about bed we managed to again be the second highest viewed PAC team/game that week behind CU and outdrew matchups like; Penn State vs NW'tern Iowa St. v OU WV v TCU etc.... |
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Post by 93beav on Oct 13, 2023 11:34:56 GMT -8
Which was also competing with Nebraska @ Minnesota...which outdrew us. All I'm saying is, yes, they were good numbers, but we need to see good numbers when matched against decent games. I don't expect us to be in the top five, but it would be great to be in the top ten consistently. WSU and Utah were in the 12-13 range. Week 5 when our game started after much of the east coast was thinking about bed we managed to again be the second highest viewed PAC team/game that week behind CU and outdrew matchups like; Penn State vs NW'tern Iowa St. v OU WV v TCU etc.... You mean the 2nd highest viewed PAC team/game of the two games that weren't played on PAC-12 Networks? I appreciate them being over Penn State, TCU, etc. As I said, I'd just like to see them be in the top 10 consistently. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 13, 2023 11:41:51 GMT -8
It may be too simplistic... but viewership matters, it's how media concerns make their $$... ads based on viewership in key demographics and areas.. And OSU is not a big draw on the national stage in any consistent basis.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Oct 13, 2023 11:47:00 GMT -8
Week 5 when our game started after much of the east coast was thinking about bed we managed to again be the second highest viewed PAC team/game that week behind CU and outdrew matchups like; Penn State vs NW'tern Iowa St. v OU WV v TCU etc.... You mean the 2nd highest viewed PAC team/game of the two games that weren't played on PAC-12 Networks? I appreciate them being over Penn State, TCU, etc. As I said, I'd just like to see them be in the top 10 consistently. One question is, CU has clearly outdrawn every team in the conference so wouldn't you think "they" would want to ride that horse for all it's worth and give them preference in timeslots it it is indeed only about drawing in the most viewers? |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 13, 2023 11:57:04 GMT -8
You mean the 2nd highest viewed PAC team/game of the two games that weren't played on PAC-12 Networks? I appreciate them being over Penn State, TCU, etc. As I said, I'd just like to see them be in the top 10 consistently. One question is, CU has clearly outdrawn every team in the conference so wouldn't you think "they" would want to ride that horse for all it's worth and give them preference in timeslots it it is indeed only about drawing in the most viewers? Many conferences have game slot limitations/requirements. I'm not sure if the Pac12 has hard and solid scheduling limits other than a pecking order by the media contract. Hence, even favored "love affairs" have limits set on time slots that can be given. It is also more about the total matchup in many cases. A tOSU vs Rutgers still not getting a slot over weaker Wisky vs Michigan let's say. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Oct 13, 2023 12:10:32 GMT -8
One question is, CU has clearly outdrawn every team in the conference so wouldn't you think "they" would want to ride that horse for all it's worth and give them preference in timeslots it it is indeed only about drawing in the most viewers? Many conferences have game slot limitations/requirements. I'm not sure if the Pac12 has hard and solid scheduling limits other than a pecking order by the media contract. Hence, even favored "love affairs" have limits set on time slots that can be given. It is also more about the total matchup in many cases. A tOSU vs Rutgers still not getting a slot over weaker Wisky vs Michigan let's say. I think you're right on. My vague recollection is, there's a rotation between media partners from week to week. The gist as I understood it, on some weeks the P12 networks turn comes up and they get first (maybe 2nd) pick of games, the next week it may be Fox and so on who gets the first pick. There are so many additional variables impacting viewership numbers which have little to do with a teams appeal or lack thereof. 93beav on one hand has pointed out some of the variables, usually outside of a team/schools control, which can have a significant impact on viewership numbers, and then turns around and states on the other hand he'd like to see us consistently in the top 10. Of course we all would like to see that, but a lot of it has nothing at all to do with how attractive we are. |
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Post by elwood on Oct 13, 2023 12:18:04 GMT -8
It may be too simplistic... but viewership matters, it's how media concerns make their $$... ads based on viewership in key demographics and areas.. And OSU is not a big draw on the national stage in any consistent basis. Yep! Spot on and those viewer demographics and regions are not always judged or even determined by humans. Most of what is determined media markets is calculated by computer’s and that is what advertisers want to see. They don’t care how many bowl games you attended, what your current ranking is or what color uniform your team is wearing that week. These are bean counters back East that don’t even watch football or could identify the State of Oregon on a map. It takes a lot of time and consistency to move those metrics. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 13, 2023 12:18:09 GMT -8
Seems to me there was last year there were discussions about the Pac 12 channel had to show each school at least twice, and a few of our early season games were on the Pac-12 channel because they wanted to save a couple of school's later season games for when the bowl play hyped up. We ended being on the Pac 12 channel something like 7 times.
At any rate, OSU had been a bad team the entire GA era, and not a good team making bowl games until 2 years ago. That and getting "relegated" to the Pac 12 channel really hurt us as far as national eyeballs go by my guess.
That Top 20/25 ranking changes things. Heck, the whole realignment mess probably helps keep the networks' attention on the Beavers to some extent.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 13, 2023 14:20:10 GMT -8
Colorado at Stanford on Friday was probably scheduled long before Deion was hired. Each team has to play one Friday home game every 2-3 years, I think, and it was Stanford's turn.
And it will far outdraw any other Pac-12 game that could have been in this timeslot.
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Post by grayman on Oct 13, 2023 17:12:53 GMT -8
Maybe it matters to an extent but if you look at the 2022 numbers it doesn't seem to hold much water when looking at OSU and WSU compared to the new Big 12 schools...both WSU and OSU drew more viewership than UCF, Arizona, Colorado, Arizona State and Houston.
Other teams of note they both outdrew are Miami (Fl), Louisville, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Virginia and Duke.
Plus it looks like OSU is going to do much better this season.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2023 13:24:15 GMT -8
Seems to me there was last year there were discussions about the Pac 12 channel had to show each school at least twice, and a few of our early season games were on the Pac-12 channel because they wanted to save a couple of school's later season games for when the bowl play hyped up. We ended being on the Pac 12 channel something like 7 times. At any rate, OSU had been a bad team the entire GA era, and not a good team making bowl games until 2 years ago. That and getting "relegated" to the Pac 12 channel really hurt us as far as national eyeballs go by my guess. That Top 20/25 ranking changes things. Heck, the whole realignment mess probably helps keep the networks' attention on the Beavers to some extent. I tend to think that being relegated to the Pac-12 Network during the GAG era was probably a blessing in disguise. No one saw how awful Oregon State was. |
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