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Post by flyfishinbeav on Oct 9, 2023 8:42:57 GMT -8
This 100% If we can somehow remain relevant as a football program in the big picture of college football, I'd be down with continuing the Civil War......if we are completely left out and the money gap continues to widen, what's the point? If our AD is gutted, and we are clearly not on the same level, I do not want to see us getting slaughtered for a pay day. If we are in that position then we move on, and play to level of competition. We haven’t been on the same level for years. $68 million dollar difference in AD revenue last year between us and the ucks. Yea, I think we all know the money gap Judge. As of now we are still in a P5, and have a great coach, who has built a winning culture. We are likely looking at large cuts to our AD in the future.......unless there's some great deal out there that hasn't happened. I'm not holding my breath. If we are relegated to the MW, even if we call it the Pac whatever, we will be headed in the wrong direction, in respect to the world of D1 college football. Do we need hole kinda money? No, but having considerably less than we do now? Barnes has already alluded to cuts in the future. The success we are having currently is a double edged sword, based on our lack of a P5 home, starting next season........Smith is on everyone's short list. Again, if relegated, and big cuts in the AD, how long do we keep Smith around? He will likely get massive offers, cuz he is a helluva coach......and even if the donors pony up he will have less resources in the MW. Maybe he'll be ok challenging for the MW crown yearly?? |
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Oct 9, 2023 14:22:52 GMT -8
Yeah, I read that. About what I expected. They seem to forget that Nike $$$ is about all that is standing between them and being part of the Pac-3. But insufferable jackasses just gotta insufferable jackass. |
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Post by Dave86 on Oct 15, 2023 17:49:36 GMT -8
I'm extremely upset with, and disappointed with Oregon and Washington for more reasons than I can count. I have fundamental problems with both of them.
Good chance we'll be playing a Mountain West football schedule next year. Which of the following two schedules below gives OSU the best chances to:
1) keep the current coaching staff
2) keep the current players
3) keep Power 5 status
2024 Option #1
Aug. 31 - Idaho State *
Sept. 7 - @ Boise State *
Sept. 14 - @ Utah State
Sept. 21 - Purdue *
Sept. 28 - New Mexico
Oct. 5 - Colorado State
Oct. 12 - bye
Oct. 19 - @ Nevada
Oct. 26 - UNLV
Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State
Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State
Nov. 17 - Wyoming
Nov. 23 - Washington State
* = Presently scheduled OOC game
2024 Option #2
Aug. 31 - @ Washington
Sept. 7 - Oregon
Sept. 14 - @ Utah State
Sept. 21 - Purdue *
Sept. 28 - @ New Mexico
Oct. 5 - Colorado State
Oct. 12 - bye
Oct. 19 - @ Nevada
Oct. 26 - UNLV
Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State
Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State
Nov. 17 - Wyoming
Nov. 23 - Washington State
* = Presently scheduled OOC game
Present 2024 OOC schedule is:
Aug. 31 - Idaho State
Sept. 7 - @ Boise State
Sept. 14 -
Sept. 21 - Purdue
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 16, 2023 13:01:05 GMT -8
I'm extremely upset with, and disappointed with Oregon and Washington for more reasons than I can count. I have fundamental problems with both of them. Good chance we'll be playing a Mountain West football schedule next year. Which of the following two schedules below gives OSU the best chances to: 1) keep the current coaching staff 2) keep the current players 3) keep Power 5 status 2024 Option #1 Aug. 31 - Idaho State * Sept. 7 - @ Boise State * Sept. 14 - @ Utah State Sept. 21 - Purdue * Sept. 28 - New Mexico Oct. 5 - Colorado State Oct. 12 - bye Oct. 19 - @ Nevada Oct. 26 - UNLV Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State Nov. 17 - Wyoming Nov. 23 - Washington State * = Presently scheduled OOC game 2024 Option #2 Aug. 31 - @ Washington Sept. 7 - Oregon Sept. 14 - @ Utah State Sept. 21 - Purdue * Sept. 28 - @ New Mexico Oct. 5 - Colorado State Oct. 12 - bye Oct. 19 - @ Nevada Oct. 26 - UNLV Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State Nov. 17 - Wyoming Nov. 23 - Washington State * = Presently scheduled OOC game Present 2024 OOC schedule is: Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Sept. 21 - Purdue I'll just go with your dates: 2024 Option #3 Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Nevada/UNLV/Utah State Pick 'em Sept. 21 - Purdue Sept. 28 - Bye Oct. 5 - Cal Oct. 12 - @ Stanford Oct. 19 - Utah Oct. 26 - Bye Nov. 3 - @ UCLA Nov. 10 - Arizona Nov. 17 - @ Washington Nov. 24 - Oregon Dec. 1 - Wazzu If there is only a Pac-2, the game is played on Championship Weekend, not the week before. That frees up the week before for the Civil War. I am not so sure that Oregon State can really pull all of those teams, but Arizona, California, Stanford, and Utah are going to be desperate for opponents for some time. UCLA and Washington each have openings for next year. But UCLA and Washington may opt to schedule teams that they have bigger rivalries with. For example, UCLA might schedule Cal, which would eliminate both from this list. And Washington I am assuming is just going to try and schedule Wazzu. Stanford needs ton of help putting together a schedule, as does Arizona and Utah, but Arizona and Utah might just schedule California or Stanford. Nevada, UNLV, and Utah State are the three easiest Mountain West teams to schedule. Hawai'i is fourth. New Mexico is fifth in 2024. San Diego State and Wyoming have immediate openings in 2025. You could take lemons and turn 2024 into a pretty respectable schedule, and just as good, if not better, schedule in 2025. After that, we will have to have a real conference slate, but you could still have a pretty good nonconference slate in 2024, if Oregon State can swing it. |
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Post by Dave86 on Oct 16, 2023 16:14:28 GMT -8
I'll just go with your dates: 2024 Option #3 Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Nevada/UNLV/Utah State Pick 'em Sept. 21 - Purdue Sept. 28 - Bye Oct. 5 - Cal Oct. 12 - @ Stanford Oct. 19 - Utah Oct. 26 - Bye Nov. 3 - @ UCLA Nov. 10 - Arizona Nov. 17 - @ Washington Nov. 24 - Oregon Dec. 1 - Wazzu If there is only a Pac-2, the game is played on Championship Weekend, not the week before. That frees up the week before for the Civil War. I am not so sure that Oregon State can really pull all of those teams, but Arizona, California, Stanford, and Utah are going to be desperate for opponents for some time. UCLA and Washington each have openings for next year. But UCLA and Washington may opt to schedule teams that they have bigger rivalries with. For example, UCLA might schedule Cal, which would eliminate both from this list. And Washington I am assuming is just going to try and schedule Wazzu. Stanford needs ton of help putting together a schedule, as does Arizona and Utah, but Arizona and Utah might just schedule California or Stanford. Nevada, UNLV, and Utah State are the three easiest Mountain West teams to schedule. Hawai'i is fourth. New Mexico is fifth in 2024. San Diego State and Wyoming have immediate openings in 2025. You could take lemons and turn 2024 into a pretty respectable schedule, and just as good, if not better, schedule in 2025. After that, we will have to have a real conference slate, but you could still have a pretty good nonconference slate in 2024, if Oregon State can swing it. Yes, that schedule, like the teams or not, gives us the best chance to do the following: 1) keep the current coaching staff 2) keep the current players 3) keep Power 5 status You are ahead of me on which former PAC-12 teams are looking for OOC opponents next year. Last night I started seeing "internet rumors" suggesting Oregon State & Washington State will go at it for one or two years as the PAC-2. So, I searched for 2 to 3 hours for something solid to post on this to start a thread. Found nothing, other than perhaps what we're getting from Canzano. So that's when I posted the "Links: Gloria Nevarez interview, Oregonlive opinion piece, Yahoo on UO & UW leaving, Washington Post" thread, which was a collection of the best links in general that I found. |
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Post by korculabeav on Oct 17, 2023 19:50:19 GMT -8
I'm extremely upset with, and disappointed with Oregon and Washington for more reasons than I can count. I have fundamental problems with both of them. Good chance we'll be playing a Mountain West football schedule next year. Which of the following two schedules below gives OSU the best chances to: 1) keep the current coaching staff 2) keep the current players 3) keep Power 5 status 2024 Option #1 Aug. 31 - Idaho State * Sept. 7 - @ Boise State * Sept. 14 - @ Utah State Sept. 21 - Purdue * Sept. 28 - New Mexico Oct. 5 - Colorado State Oct. 12 - bye Oct. 19 - @ Nevada Oct. 26 - UNLV Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State Nov. 17 - Wyoming Nov. 23 - Washington State * = Presently scheduled OOC game 2024 Option #2 Aug. 31 - @ Washington Sept. 7 - Oregon Sept. 14 - @ Utah State Sept. 21 - Purdue * Sept. 28 - @ New Mexico Oct. 5 - Colorado State Oct. 12 - bye Oct. 19 - @ Nevada Oct. 26 - UNLV Nov. 3 - @ San Jose State Nov. 10 - @ Fresno State Nov. 17 - Wyoming Nov. 23 - Washington State * = Presently scheduled OOC game Present 2024 OOC schedule is: Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Sept. 21 - Purdue I'll just go with your dates: 2024 Option #3 Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Nevada/UNLV/Utah State Pick 'em Sept. 21 - Purdue Sept. 28 - Bye Oct. 5 - Cal Oct. 12 - @ Stanford Oct. 19 - Utah Oct. 26 - Bye Nov. 3 - @ UCLA Nov. 10 - Arizona Nov. 17 - @ Washington Nov. 24 - Oregon Dec. 1 - Wazzu If there is only a Pac-2, the game is played on Championship Weekend, not the week before. That frees up the week before for the Civil War. I am not so sure that Oregon State can really pull all of those teams, but Arizona, California, Stanford, and Utah are going to be desperate for opponents for some time. UCLA and Washington each have openings for next year. But UCLA and Washington may opt to schedule teams that they have bigger rivalries with. For example, UCLA might schedule Cal, which would eliminate both from this list. And Washington I am assuming is just going to try and schedule Wazzu. Stanford needs ton of help putting together a schedule, as does Arizona and Utah, but Arizona and Utah might just schedule California or Stanford. Nevada, UNLV, and Utah State are the three easiest Mountain West teams to schedule. Hawai'i is fourth. New Mexico is fifth in 2024. San Diego State and Wyoming have immediate openings in 2025. You could take lemons and turn 2024 into a pretty respectable schedule, and just as good, if not better, schedule in 2025. After that, we will have to have a real conference slate, but you could still have a pretty good nonconference slate in 2024, if Oregon State can swing it. There is no reality where Option #3 will ever happen. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 18, 2023 13:07:33 GMT -8
I'll just go with your dates: 2024 Option #3 Aug. 31 - Idaho State Sept. 7 - @ Boise State Sept. 14 - Nevada/UNLV/Utah State Pick 'em Sept. 21 - Purdue Sept. 28 - Bye Oct. 5 - Cal Oct. 12 - @ Stanford Oct. 19 - Utah Oct. 26 - Bye Nov. 3 - @ UCLA Nov. 10 - Arizona Nov. 17 - @ Washington Nov. 24 - Oregon Dec. 1 - Wazzu If there is only a Pac-2, the game is played on Championship Weekend, not the week before. That frees up the week before for the Civil War. I am not so sure that Oregon State can really pull all of those teams, but Arizona, California, Stanford, and Utah are going to be desperate for opponents for some time. UCLA and Washington each have openings for next year. But UCLA and Washington may opt to schedule teams that they have bigger rivalries with. For example, UCLA might schedule Cal, which would eliminate both from this list. And Washington I am assuming is just going to try and schedule Wazzu. Stanford needs ton of help putting together a schedule, as does Arizona and Utah, but Arizona and Utah might just schedule California or Stanford. Nevada, UNLV, and Utah State are the three easiest Mountain West teams to schedule. Hawai'i is fourth. New Mexico is fifth in 2024. San Diego State and Wyoming have immediate openings in 2025. You could take lemons and turn 2024 into a pretty respectable schedule, and just as good, if not better, schedule in 2025. After that, we will have to have a real conference slate, but you could still have a pretty good nonconference slate in 2024, if Oregon State can swing it. There is no reality where Option #3 will ever happen. Do tell. |
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