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Post by beavfan14 on Oct 2, 2023 9:44:51 GMT -8
It won't happen for awhile probably never, but the plan was to move the scoreboard to the top of the Valley Football center then add another deck to the south endzone. That is still possible even with the wellness center but much harder now. So we'll see after all the re alignment bs stops and where we end up. It's a small big12 stadium, but a big and brand new MWC stadium.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 2, 2023 10:05:08 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? Because the ticket was sold and the buyer did not show up, or stayed in the parking lot to tailgate, or re-sold it to another person who didn't attend, or watched the game from along the rail at Beaver Street or someplace else other than his/her seat, because a vendor bought a bunch of tickets they couldn't sell on the secondary market ... Lots of reasons why a sold ticket isn't used. Cheap seat sitters like to come down and hover around the walkways also. As much as security keeps trying to keep the area clear, it always gets filled up with onlookers. This entire thread keeps ignoring that OSU intentionally cut capacity. Reser's new official capacity is 35,548 after this renovation. We were at 105% of capacity for Utah.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 2, 2023 10:27:52 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? Was it even announced as a sellout?? I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO
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Oct 2, 2023 10:46:26 GMT -8
Post by obf on Oct 2, 2023 10:46:26 GMT -8
Because the ticket was sold and the buyer did not show up, or stayed in the parking lot to tailgate, or re-sold it to another person who didn't attend, or watched the game from along the rail at Beaver Street or someplace else other than his/her seat, because a vendor bought a bunch of tickets they couldn't sell on the secondary market ... Lots of reasons why a sold ticket isn't used. Cheap seat sitters like to come down and hover around the walkways also. As much as security keeps trying to keep the area clear, it always gets filled up with onlookers. This entire thread keeps ignoring that OSU intentionally cut capacity. Reser's new official capacity is 35,548 after this renovation. We were at 105% of capacity for Utah. Maybe I am not envisioning the area you are talking about, but the new SRO areas on the West side are open and free for anyone, for any amount of time. The BEST SEAT IN THE HOUSE is the SRO area on the concourse ABOVE Beaver Street *viewing from Beaver Street sucks, too low of an angle... There is a reason the cameras are right next to the upper SRO. I stood there for the entire Utah game. I was never hassled by security, and it was never full (which boggles my mind). Mostly I think people just don't want to stand... I mean most people wont even stand for an important 3rd down on defense My original tickets were section 111, which I THOUGHT was an upgrade from my usual nose bleed VV seats... NOPE! I had thought that there wasn't a bad seat in the whole stadium... I stand correcting the low level corners are quite crappy Regardless, DO NOT TELL anyone about the good SRO spots please
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 2, 2023 10:48:19 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? Was it even announced as a sellout?? I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO Yes, Sara Elcano said on the Joe Beaver Show on Tuesday that every seat was sold.
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Post by obf on Oct 2, 2023 10:49:24 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? Was it even announced as a sellout??I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO Both the in stadium PA announcer and the gazette times said it was... Also as Atown pointed out 37k is 105% of full capacity... On the other hand squad tickets (which are only available for games that are not sold out) were available (that is how I get tix) on Thursday, so after Sara said every ticket was sold. Sold Out has always be a nebulous and vague term
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Oct 2, 2023 10:56:12 GMT -8
Post by rgeorge on Oct 2, 2023 10:56:12 GMT -8
Was it even announced as a sellout??I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO Both the in stadium PA announcer and the gazette times said it was... Also as Atown pointed out 37k is 105% of full capacity... On the other hand squad tickets (which are only available for games that are not sold out) were available (that is how I get tix) on Thursday, so after Sara said every ticket was sold. Sold Out has always be a nebulous and vague term Exactly... our friends got squad tix. So it was a game day/walkup type sell out??? Or did they break the "squad" tix rule?
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Post by obf on Oct 2, 2023 12:53:19 GMT -8
Both the in stadium PA announcer and the gazette times said it was... Also as Atown pointed out 37k is 105% of full capacity... On the other hand squad tickets (which are only available for games that are not sold out) were available (that is how I get tix) on Thursday, so after Sara said every ticket was sold. Sold Out has always be a nebulous and vague term Exactly... our friends got squad tix. So it was a game day/walkup type sell out??? Or did they break the "squad" tix rule? I think announcing a sell out is basically a bull... excrement... sales and marketing ploy. Henry Skrimshander say Sara Elcano was already proclaiming a sell out on Tuesday last week, but squad tickets come out 48 hrs before, so in this case Wednesday at 6pm. Even the ticket office webpage said there were only standing room tickets available... but then when you actually went in to buy tickets there were plenty to choose from... with actual seats, iow, not standing room This certainly isn't an OSU only phenomenon, every sporting event, concert, broadway show, etc. shouts from the rooftops that they are sold out, even when to the plain eye there are clearly tickets available. Simple economics, make the product seem more scarce, more desirable and demand will naturally go up. I mean UCLA announces sell outs all the time even tough half the seats are covered with tarps, smh. In the past you could only ever really estimate the number of people actually in the stadium, but with every persons ticket being scanned now there should be an exact count. In the end there is no standard metric for what constitutes a sell out and so entities will always keep it vague so they can claim whatever they want to claim.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Oct 2, 2023 14:06:04 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? Was it even announced as a sellout?? I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO Agree with a lot of this post but Beaver Street was a breeze during the Utah game. My seats are just below the counter rail in 132, so my back to beaverstreet. During the game it was mostly empty. This game the people in my row were 'jack in the boxes', getting up to walk to beaver street every 5 minutes, I don't know what they were doing but they were back in about 5 minutes every time. An old fart was standing at the rail before the game behind us and told a fellow stander next to him loud enough for all to hear that if the people with seats don't sit down then just 'spill' beer on them. Our whole row stood the whole game and he moved on a couple minutes after the game started. The Beaver street rail is not great to stand at because the first row below the rail is on the same level. The SRO rail people moved along during the Utah game because everyone was standing right in front of them.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Oct 2, 2023 14:24:52 GMT -8
FWIW... not sure if the 37k number above was # of tickets sold, or actual people in attendance, because there were plenty of open seats, and not just in the top corners. I don't think we will ever actually need more seats. Although it would be nice for folks to show up if they bought seats, or give them to someone who will show up. For how expensive tickets are... How does a stadium "sell out" and still have thousands of empty seats??? It's never actually pulses present.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 2, 2023 15:26:45 GMT -8
Was it even announced as a sellout?? I know many of the upper VV seats had folks standing around the concourse. I really wonder how they are going to keep getting away with that due to code. The congestion and over crowded facilities were not designed for extra 1000+ folks to be standing around even though they say they will sell SRO, it makes Beaver Street an absolute no go during the game or halftime. I have no idea how the AD will proceed, but West side tix are vastly over priced for season tickets. And, single game revenue is too risky once the newness wears off unless OSU strings together 10+ win seasons. The West side wings maybe structurally possible, but would be a nightmare to an already crowded and questionable design flaw in access/egress on the north end. Some here think a MWC type schedule will destroy the entirety of the program. A complete unknown, and several MWC teams thrive with far less at their disposal. BUT, ticket prices will have a far bigger impact than vs Air Force or Wyoming. I'd bet 50%+ of the fans around us know very little about any of our opponents. It is not why they attend games and the ticket price is a huge factor in how they decide how to spend their disposable income. The difference between posters on this board and like 15k+ other fans in attendance, it is purely a social event. Of course a totally made up #, but from the three games so far those around us and in passing by it is probably pretty close?! You may lure them in now with single game pricing and the "new Reser", but do not see many new season ticket holders buying seats at $1600-2600+ per seat when there are options on the East for far less. Again, not sure what the AD will do or if they will eventually adjust. But, the West will become a fair weather, fan single game ticket venue if they do not do something. IMHO Agree with a lot of this post but Beaver Street was a breeze during the Utah game. My seats are just below the counter rail in 132, so my back to beaverstreet. During the game it was mostly empty. This game the people in my row were 'jack in the boxes', getting up to walk to beaver street every 5 minutes, I don't know what they were doing but they were back in about 5 minutes every time. An old fart was standing at the rail before the game behind us and told a fellow stander next to him loud enough for all to hear that if the people with seats don't sit down then just 'spill' beer on them. Our whole row stood the whole game and he moved on a couple minutes after the game started. The Beaver street rail is not great to stand at because the first row below the rail is on the same level. The SRO rail people moved along during the Utah game because everyone was standing right in front of them. I sat in the same row the first game. Afterwards people were complaining about the Beaverstreet lines at halftime. I got up after the first score of the 2nd half, took a quick bathroom break and bought a bottle of water at the kiosk and saw the last few seconds of the 2.5 minute commercial break tick off as I was sitting back down in my seat. I think it's a great design if you're willing to plan your breaks around halftime.
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Post by qbeaver on Oct 2, 2023 17:02:41 GMT -8
Agree with a lot of this post but Beaver Street was a breeze during the Utah game. My seats are just below the counter rail in 132, so my back to beaverstreet. During the game it was mostly empty. This game the people in my row were 'jack in the boxes', getting up to walk to beaver street every 5 minutes, I don't know what they were doing but they were back in about 5 minutes every time. An old fart was standing at the rail before the game behind us and told a fellow stander next to him loud enough for all to hear that if the people with seats don't sit down then just 'spill' beer on them. Our whole row stood the whole game and he moved on a couple minutes after the game started. The Beaver street rail is not great to stand at because the first row below the rail is on the same level. The SRO rail people moved along during the Utah game because everyone was standing right in front of them. I sat in the same row the first game. Afterwards people were complaining about the Beaverstreet lines at halftime. I got up after the first score of the 2nd half, took a quick bathroom break and bought a bottle of water at the kiosk and saw the last few seconds of the 2.5 minute commercial break tick off as I was sitting back down in my seat. I think it's a great design if you're willing to plan your breaks around halftime. Agreed. Plan your bathroom breaks and concession breaks when it isn’t peak times. Against SDS,I got food and was back in my seat in 10 minutes tops in the second quarter. Of course it’s going to be a mess at halftime. To me it’s much better than it was two years ago with the old West side and better food options. I’ve been to games since 1975. We used to have about 5 food options and soda pop. Feel blessed we have a beautiful new side in 2023 that is in the top half of the Pac-12 in terms of amenities.
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