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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 30, 2023 10:26:33 GMT -8
Courts rule in Pac 2 favor. Money is what’s been floated around ( 640 million from CFP, 420 million from ncaa basketball payouts). The Pac 2 offer each MWC team 5 million to join. Go to Apple and see if they want to get in at 10-14 per team on a media deal. We will have enough cash to sustain in the short term. It gets them in the game, something espn and Fox desperately didn’t want to happen. It would be a great travel league that would be better for the student athletes and have a giant media partner in the platform that is the future to viewing sports. In a couple years when it’s time to reform the Pac, through bylaws we allow the former MWC teams to leave with no exit fees. So they are better off, they had more exposure and got more money. The bylaws would also have applications fee for any traitors who want back in, based on their sins. Maybe bigger fee for big 10 teams 😜. A lot of “ifs” but that’s why it’s a dream. OK Barnes and Chun, get it done.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 30, 2023 10:35:31 GMT -8
There is not anywhere near $420 million in NCAA basketball payouts, not sure at all where you are finding that. Maybe 1/6 of that over the next six years, the length of time in which each unit is paid out.
MWC teams can leave with no penalty after 25-26, when the grant of rights for their TV package expires.
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Post by sparty on Sept 30, 2023 17:49:46 GMT -8
There is not anywhere near $420 million in NCAA basketball payouts, not sure at all where you are finding that. Maybe 1/6 of that over the next six years, the length of time in which each unit is paid out. MWC teams can leave with no penalty after 25-26, when the grant of rights for their TV package expires. So we just have the pac-2 then until 2026. Easy peezey! |
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Post by irimi on Sept 30, 2023 17:59:57 GMT -8
Courts rule in Pac 2 favor. Money is what’s been floated around ( 640 million from CFP, 420 million from ncaa basketball payouts). The Pac 2 offer each MWC team 5 million to join. Go to Apple and see if they want to get in at 10-14 per team on a media deal. We will have enough cash to sustain in the short term. It gets them in the game, something espn and Fox desperately didn’t want to happen. It would be a great travel league that would be better for the student athletes and have a giant media partner in the platform that is the future to viewing sports. In a couple years when it’s time to reform the Pac, through bylaws we allow the former MWC teams to leave with no exit fees. So they are better off, they had more exposure and got more money. The bylaws would also have applications fee for any traitors who want back in, based on their sins. Maybe bigger fee for big 10 teams 😜. A lot of “ifs” but that’s why it’s a dream. OK Barnes and Chun, get it done. That's not my dream scenario. My dream scenario involves OSU and WSU joining the B1G and creating a "west coast" division of the B1G. We play the treacherous teams regularly in order to keep travel costs down for all with a few games with the rest of the B1G. It would really make a lot of sense (in terms of travel) and keep us in a good conference. It would save the Apple Cup and the Civil War. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 30, 2023 18:13:36 GMT -8
Courts rule in Pac 2 favor. Money is what’s been floated around ( 640 million from CFP, 420 million from ncaa basketball payouts). The Pac 2 offer each MWC team 5 million to join. Go to Apple and see if they want to get in at 10-14 per team on a media deal. We will have enough cash to sustain in the short term. It gets them in the game, something espn and Fox desperately didn’t want to happen. It would be a great travel league that would be better for the student athletes and have a giant media partner in the platform that is the future to viewing sports. In a couple years when it’s time to reform the Pac, through bylaws we allow the former MWC teams to leave with no exit fees. So they are better off, they had more exposure and got more money. The bylaws would also have applications fee for any traitors who want back in, based on their sins. Maybe bigger fee for big 10 teams 😜. A lot of “ifs” but that’s why it’s a dream. OK Barnes and Chun, get it done. The football number that I have heard is roughly half of the football number you have, and the basketball number that I have heard is 20%-25% of your basketball number. The Mountain West's current contract expires after 2025-2026, so they are free to join a new conference at that time. Apple can make whatever happen that they want to have happen. They basically blew up the Pac-12 by dragging their feet and then trying to lowball the Pac-12 just last month, though, so I do not know how serious that they are about the whole thing. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 30, 2023 18:42:40 GMT -8
My dream scenario is that the latest rumor about OSU and WSU going to the Big 12 is true, particularly the reasoning.
That could allow OSU and WSU to negotiate a pretty nice deal in the process.
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 30, 2023 19:46:51 GMT -8
My dream scenario is staying somewhat relevant in college sports. Dropping to the mwc level is a complete nightmare. Say goodbye to alot of players in all sports, coaches too.
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Post by jimbeav on Oct 1, 2023 9:41:54 GMT -8
My dream scenario:
Bill82's doc drop included the detail that USC/UCLA could back out of the B!G if the conference makeup changes again.
Now that they've added uo/UW, that scenario is in play.
Approach Apple and/or ESPN (who still doesn't have a true west coast presence) and negotiate a potential linear+streaming deal that includes the 8 west coast schools in tech-savvy California, Oregon, and Washington. By dividing the funds only 8 ways, and including the biggest media markets, there's more money per school. You can also sweeten the pot for the big boys by scaling the distribution based on cost-of-living metrics, because I don't think that equal distribution is sustainable in the long run. If we wanna play with the big boys, we gotta give up some concessions.
If you can get $60m for UCLA and USC, and $40-50m for the other schools, maybe you can coax these other teams back to the table to re-form the Pac-8 and a more regional league.
I know, I know, it won't happen, but we're dreaming here, right? This is my dream scenario.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 1, 2023 10:47:50 GMT -8
My dream scenario: Bill82's doc drop included the detail that USC/UCLA could back out of the B!G if the conference makeup changes again. Now that they've added uo/UW, that scenario is in play. Approach Apple and/or ESPN (who still doesn't have a true west coast presence) and negotiate a potential linear+streaming deal that includes the 8 west coast schools in tech-savvy California, Oregon, and Washington. By dividing the funds only 8 ways, and including the biggest media markets, there's more money per school. You can also sweeten the pot for the big boys by scaling the distribution based on cost-of-living metrics, because I don't think that equal distribution is sustainable in the long run. If we wanna play with the big boys, we gotta give up some concessions. If you can get $60m for UCLA and USC, and $40-50m for the other schools, maybe you can coax these other teams back to the table to re-form the Pac-8 and a more regional league. I know, I know, it won't happen, but we're dreaming here, right? This is my dream scenario. I think it would be hilarious if USC and UCLA for some reason came back and uw and uo were stuck there getting paid partial shares. Don't think it'd happen though. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Oct 1, 2023 11:12:11 GMT -8
My dream scenario: Bill82's doc drop included the detail that USC/UCLA could back out of the B!G if the conference makeup changes again. Now that they've added uo/UW, that scenario is in play. Approach Apple and/or ESPN (who still doesn't have a true west coast presence) and negotiate a potential linear+streaming deal that includes the 8 west coast schools in tech-savvy California, Oregon, and Washington. By dividing the funds only 8 ways, and including the biggest media markets, there's more money per school. You can also sweeten the pot for the big boys by scaling the distribution based on cost-of-living metrics, because I don't think that equal distribution is sustainable in the long run. If we wanna play with the big boys, we gotta give up some concessions. If you can get $60m for UCLA and USC, and $40-50m for the other schools, maybe you can coax these other teams back to the table to re-form the Pac-8 and a more regional league. I know, I know, it won't happen, but we're dreaming here, right? This is my dream scenario. I think it would be hilarious if USC and UCLA for some reason came back and uw and uo were stuck there getting paid partial shares. Don't think it'd happen though. Let's say schools do change their minds. By the way, wouldn't happen(pipe dream). The schools already signed an agreement to join the other conference. We'll, I will assume there is a signed agreement. I am also assuming there would be financial implications for wanting to back out or legal implications. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 1, 2023 11:35:02 GMT -8
Skinny I heard Friday from a pretty solid source said the 2-team league for two years pan is gaining momentum if we prevail in court.
To paraphrase the great Marv Levi, Nov. 14 is a must-win. Hopefully nobody circles the wagons like the Pac-2.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 1, 2023 12:28:26 GMT -8
Skinny I heard Friday from a pretty solid source said the 2-team league for two years pan is gaining momentum if we prevail in court. To paraphrase the great Marv Levi, Nov. 14 is a must-win. Hopefully nobody circles the wagons like the Pac-2. It will be absolutely glorious if OSU or WSU make the playoffs those two years and no other former Pac team does |
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Post by ag87 on Oct 1, 2023 13:11:59 GMT -8
As I understand it, the playoff invitees starting next year are the six highest ranked conference champions and then the next six highest ranked teams. So if the Pac-2 is a conference, the winner would have to be ranked higher than all but one of the Group of 5 champions. It's possible this year that both WSU and OSU would meet that. But the problem is the highest ranked is decided in a smoke-filled room with Fox and ESPN having a big voice.
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 1, 2023 13:28:55 GMT -8
As I understand it, the playoff invitees starting next year are the six highest ranked conference champions and then the next six highest ranked teams. So if the Pac-2 is a conference, the winner would have to be ranked higher than all but one of the Group of 5 champions. It's possible this year that both WSU and OSU would meet that. But the problem is the highest ranked is decided in a smoke-filled room with Fox and ESPN having a big voice. Yeah, I believe the "highest rankings"... 6 top conference champs, next 6 highest ranked overall... are CFP polls. WSU & OSU would have to have very good schedules and win 10+ in the regular season to ever get in the top 12 of the CFP and past the bias of a two-team conference. The CFP could easily find two G5 Champs to rank higher. Then the next 6 invitees will be a combo of the four P4 teams... maybe 2 more from B10 & SEC, 1 extra from B10 & ACC. But, other than the CFP it's a positive. And, really... how many invites do we honestly think OSU receives in any conference?? |
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Post by seastape on Oct 1, 2023 13:44:48 GMT -8
Skinny I heard Friday from a pretty solid source said the 2-team league for two years pan is gaining momentum if we prevail in court. To paraphrase the great Marv Levi, Nov. 14 is a must-win. Hopefully nobody circles the wagons like the Pac-2. That sounds like a nightmare for scheduling purposes, but if the AD's and Pres's think they can pull it off...well then more power to them. |
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