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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 25, 2023 0:00:14 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 13:56:47 GMT -8
I’d be very surprised if there is a freshman in the country over 6’9 that can jump as high or run as fast as him.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 28, 2023 14:29:22 GMT -8
I’d be very surprised if there is a freshman in the country over 6’9 that can jump as high or run as fast as him. You don't keep up with much elite HS hoops then! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 19:43:56 GMT -8
I’d be very surprised if there is a freshman in the country over 6’9 that can jump as high or run as fast as him. You don't keep up with much elite HS hoops then! Thanks for naming names and their vertical jumps. I watched a lot of big guys play the last 3 years in phoenix, Vegas, and California, I didn’t see any 6’9+ kids at any of the circuits that jumped like he does. Fast and effortless jumper…….as Thomas Ndong alluded to in the news article…….if it wasn’t “different” than the other guys……he wouldn’t have pointed it out. I saw him dunk on Baye Fall (who is a 5 star recruit to arkansas) like it was nothing. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 28, 2023 19:50:58 GMT -8
You don't keep up with much elite HS hoops then! Thanks for naming names and their vertical jumps. I watched a lot of big guys play the last 3 years in phoenix, Vegas, and California, I didn’t see any 6’9+ kids at any of the circuits that jumped like he does. Fast and effortless jumper…….as Thomas Ndong alluded to in the news article…….if it wasn’t “different” than the other guys……he wouldn’t have pointed it out. I saw him dunk on Baye Fall (who is a 5 star recruit to arkansas) like it was nothing. So you've seem him play? Then you'd know he is as raw as a P5 D1 recruit can be. It is called potential that is a long way to go. There are a LOT of guys 6'7" to 6'10" that can play at that level of speed/height... AND are legit D1 players. Go search... the list isn't endless, but not tough to find kids. It is hyperbole on a developing kid. There is a reason he had the offers he had. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 19:54:45 GMT -8
And to add to it……vertical jumps are one thing. Out jumping people when you’re playing in practice/scrimmage/game is a totally different thing. The best “jumper” I played with 22 years ago was not the highest jumper, but the most effective jumper…….he just got where he was aiming for so quickly.
Some guys elevate faster and get to their target point quicker, not always the highest jumper…….anyway, I read the article, agreed with the original poster, and concur with what Thomas Ndong said about Marrs jumping ability……didn’t realize that was out of bounds to share what I saw on the AAU circuits.
When a 6’11 kid is dunking from basically the free throw line in games……you know there’s some ability there.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 28, 2023 20:26:33 GMT -8
I'm just hoping he stays healthy. Because of covid, the back injury, and apparently a freak thigh/leg injury it looks like he may have only played 16/17 games in high school over 3 years.
That, and playing for a small town school out in the middle of nowhere, may have affected his recruiting notice. I'm pretty sure I read those injuries affected his AAU availability as well, but the coach raved about him in the article I read.
It'll be interesting to watch his development.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 20:30:07 GMT -8
Thanks for naming names and their vertical jumps. I watched a lot of big guys play the last 3 years in phoenix, Vegas, and California, I didn’t see any 6’9+ kids at any of the circuits that jumped like he does. Fast and effortless jumper…….as Thomas Ndong alluded to in the news article…….if it wasn’t “different” than the other guys……he wouldn’t have pointed it out. I saw him dunk on Baye Fall (who is a 5 star recruit to arkansas) like it was nothing. So you've seem him play? Then you'd know he is as raw as a P5 D1 recruit can be. It is called potential that is a long way to go. There are a LOT of guys 6'7" to 6'10" that can play at that level of speed/height... AND are legit D1 players. Go search... the list isn't endless, but not tough to find kids. It is hyperbole on a developing kid. There is a reason he had the offers he had. I obviously know a lot about a kid that not a lot of people know very much about, so that tells you I’m either a coach, a friend or a family member. When this raw untested undeveloped prospect is getting quality minutes this year. You’ll know you were wrong. I can’t tell you how many disappointed college coaches I saw over the last three years when they found out he wasn’t playing in a tournament. How many calls or texts I would get asking on his status (by teams you wouldn’t even believe) Almost every university in America that is worth attending is in a win now attitude. It’s pretty hard to take a flyer on a kid that has been hurt for the better part of three years when you need to win today. You may not believe it but the Beavers actually out maneuvered Wyoming, Stanford, WSU and St Mary’s down the stretch. All who didn’t want to public ally offer till he came to campus because they wanted to close the deal with no competition. Every year there’s guys who slipped through the cracks and end up at places like Eastern Washington, or Santa Clara or Loyola Chicago…….he made it P5 just based on Athletic ability. I guess we’ll see |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 28, 2023 21:18:06 GMT -8
So you've seem him play? Then you'd know he is as raw as a P5 D1 recruit can be. It is called potential that is a long way to go. There are a LOT of guys 6'7" to 6'10" that can play at that level of speed/height... AND are legit D1 players. Go search... the list isn't endless, but not tough to find kids. It is hyperbole on a developing kid. There is a reason he had the offers he had. I obviously know a lot about a kid that not a lot of people know very much about, so that tells you I’m either a coach, a friend or a family member. When this raw untested undeveloped prospect is getting quality minutes this year. You’ll know you were wrong. I can’t tell you how many disappointed college coaches I saw over the last three years when they found out he wasn’t playing in a tournament. How many calls or texts I would get asking on his status (by teams you wouldn’t even believe) Almost every university in America that is worth attending is in a win now attitude. It’s pretty hard to take a flyer on a kid that has been hurt for the better part of three years when you need to win today. You may not believe it but the Beavers actually out maneuvered Wyoming, Stanford, WSU and St Mary’s down the stretch. All who didn’t want to public ally offer till he came to campus because they wanted to close the deal with no competition. Every year there’s guys who slipped through the cracks and end up at places like Eastern Washington, or Santa Clara or Loyola Chicago…….he made it P5 just based on Athletic ability. I guess we’ll see Well "ward" there we go. A little "dog in the fight" a bit of bias?! Ha... good to know. Some stuff makes more sense now... that actually doesnt! So, in watching parts of three recent practices he has been getting his hat handed to him by not an elite front line. So, minutes played on this particular D1 P5 roster is really not a great measuring stick. Wow... you must be a relative. Coaches don't take flyers in talent? They do if they recognize talent as good teams have depth to wait and see, and certainly will. And, when they've struggled to win those teams have to! Have you seen the current and recent rosters here. Most were flyers of some sort. So coaches were disappointed cuz he wasn't playing, cuz they knew he was talented... yet didn't recruit him, publicly? Were trying to sneak him by others? Wanted to close on campus with no competition? Hmmmm... how does that work? You visit and no one else can recruit you? You have to accept on the visit? You can't commit then visit/listen to other schools? Yikes, super double secret stuff. Ever deal with recruiting? Cuz that's not how it works... ever! But... great story. PS- not slamming what the kid has been thru or might actually become. I've seen him play in games vs inferior competition where he was the tallest kid by 6". I've seen him practice vs a lower tier but pretty physical D1 team. He's a project... like the word or not, it is what it is. And lucky for him he is athletic as it makes his transition easier. But, your close connection (never say you stayed at the team hotel😉) has obviously got you selling some weird takes. But, all Beaver fans hope that more than 3-5 Pac12 wins are coming. Double digits overall should be cake with this NC schedule! |
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Post by beaverinohio on Sept 29, 2023 1:33:37 GMT -8
I too am looking forward to bball season. Will be interesting to see how much last year’s new players — both frosh and transfers — have improved. And I am very cautiously optimistic — is there any other way to approach OSU bball — about this year’s newcomers. No idea what we’re looking at in the way of wins and losses. Just hope we see plenty of effort, hustle and grittiness. Don’t see this team out “talenting” many other teams, so getting after it will need to define this team to see success. As to Mars, just hope he remains healthy so we really get to see what he has. I’ve little doubt that he’s a project, but that doesn’t mean he can’t contribute in a big way his year 1. Looking forward to seeing his and the team’s progress. Go Beavs. |
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Post by blackbug on Sept 29, 2023 9:45:12 GMT -8
I obviously know a lot about a kid that not a lot of people know very much about, so that tells you I’m either a coach, a friend or a family member. When this raw untested undeveloped prospect is getting quality minutes this year. You’ll know you were wrong. I can’t tell you how many disappointed college coaches I saw over the last three years when they found out he wasn’t playing in a tournament. How many calls or texts I would get asking on his status (by teams you wouldn’t even believe) Almost every university in America that is worth attending is in a win now attitude. It’s pretty hard to take a flyer on a kid that has been hurt for the better part of three years when you need to win today. You may not believe it but the Beavers actually out maneuvered Wyoming, Stanford, WSU and St Mary’s down the stretch. All who didn’t want to public ally offer till he came to campus because they wanted to close the deal with no competition. Every year there’s guys who slipped through the cracks and end up at places like Eastern Washington, or Santa Clara or Loyola Chicago…….he made it P5 just based on Athletic ability. I guess we’ll see Well "ward" there we go. A little "dog in the fight" a bit of bias?! Ha... good to know. Some stuff makes more sense now... that actually doesnt! So, in watching parts of three recent practices he has been getting his hat handed to him by not an elite front line. So, minutes played on this particular D1 P5 roster is really not a great measuring stick. Wow... you must be a relative. Coaches don't take flyers in talent? They do if they recognize talent as good teams have depth to wait and see, and certainly will. And, when they've struggled to win those teams have to! Have you seen the current and recent rosters here. Most were flyers of some sort. So coaches were disappointed cuz he wasn't playing, cuz they knew he was talented... yet didn't recruit him, publicly? Were trying to sneak him by others? Wanted to close on campus with no competition? Hmmmm... how does that work? You visit and no one else can recruit you? You have to accept on the visit? You can't commit then visit/listen to other schools? Yikes, super double secret stuff. Ever deal with recruiting? Cuz that's not how it works... ever! But... great story. PS- not slamming what the kid has been thru or might actually become. I've seen him play in games vs inferior competition where he was the tallest kid by 6". I've seen him practice vs a lower tier but pretty physical D1 team. He's a project... like the word or not, it is what it is. And lucky for him he is athletic as it makes his transition easier. But, your close connection (never say you stayed at the team hotel😉) has obviously got you selling some weird takes. But, all Beaver fans hope that more than 3-5 Pac12 wins are coming. Double digits overall should be cake with this NC schedule! Recommend you stop. You are coming across as insensitive if not downright mean. One person's opinion. Not interested in your response, but I know you are. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 29, 2023 10:35:56 GMT -8
Well "ward" there we go. A little "dog in the fight" a bit of bias?! Ha... good to know. Some stuff makes more sense now... that actually doesnt! So, in watching parts of three recent practices he has been getting his hat handed to him by not an elite front line. So, minutes played on this particular D1 P5 roster is really not a great measuring stick. Wow... you must be a relative. Coaches don't take flyers in talent? They do if they recognize talent as good teams have depth to wait and see, and certainly will. And, when they've struggled to win those teams have to! Have you seen the current and recent rosters here. Most were flyers of some sort. So coaches were disappointed cuz he wasn't playing, cuz they knew he was talented... yet didn't recruit him, publicly? Were trying to sneak him by others? Wanted to close on campus with no competition? Hmmmm... how does that work? You visit and no one else can recruit you? You have to accept on the visit? You can't commit then visit/listen to other schools? Yikes, super double secret stuff. Ever deal with recruiting? Cuz that's not how it works... ever! But... great story. PS- not slamming what the kid has been thru or might actually become. I've seen him play in games vs inferior competition where he was the tallest kid by 6". I've seen him practice vs a lower tier but pretty physical D1 team. He's a project... like the word or not, it is what it is. And lucky for him he is athletic as it makes his transition easier. But, your close connection (never say you stayed at the team hotel😉) has obviously got you selling some weird takes. But, all Beaver fans hope that more than 3-5 Pac12 wins are coming. Double digits overall should be cake with this NC schedule! Recommend you stop. You are coming across as insensitive if not downright mean. One person's opinion. Not interested in your response, but I know you are. I rec you stop trying to dictate responses. Interpret how you want. If "ward" the OP wants to call my quote out, cool. He's the one I added my opinion to and may have offended. Otherwise chill dude, you're not involved. But, it does seem most all of your recent posts are about telling folks they are wrong?! So, what's up "Ken", "Chad" (or whatever the new moniker is) no one in real life listening/agreeing with you? |
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Post by pabeaver on Sept 30, 2023 12:46:49 GMT -8
And to add to it……vertical jumps are one thing. Out jumping people when you’re playing in practice/scrimmage/game is a totally different thing. The best “jumper” I played with 22 years ago was not the highest jumper, but the most effective jumper…….he just got where he was aiming for so quickly. Some guys elevate faster and get to their target point quicker, not always the highest jumper…….anyway, I read the article, agreed with the original poster, and concur with what Thomas Ndong said about Marrs jumping ability……didn’t realize that was out of bounds to share what I saw on the AAU circuits. When a 6’11 kid is dunking from basically the free throw line in games……you know there’s some ability there. I appreciate your insights and am looking forward to seeing him develop and play. |
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Post by beavs6 on Oct 1, 2023 6:51:48 GMT -8
Wow. I opened a hoops thread for the first time in a while hoping to get some new info. Thanks to a few posters and 1 newer one i was not disappointed.
I also hoped to avoid some long time board angst 111’s persistent napoleon like control and over bearing complex consistently brings. Unfortunately I was disappointed.
Hopefully he Beavs can bring us some positive surprises to the hardwood in 23/24.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 7:09:28 GMT -8
I obviously know a lot about a kid that not a lot of people know very much about, so that tells you I’m either a coach, a friend or a family member. When this raw untested undeveloped prospect is getting quality minutes this year. You’ll know you were wrong. I can’t tell you how many disappointed college coaches I saw over the last three years when they found out he wasn’t playing in a tournament. How many calls or texts I would get asking on his status (by teams you wouldn’t even believe) Almost every university in America that is worth attending is in a win now attitude. It’s pretty hard to take a flyer on a kid that has been hurt for the better part of three years when you need to win today. You may not believe it but the Beavers actually out maneuvered Wyoming, Stanford, WSU and St Mary’s down the stretch. All who didn’t want to public ally offer till he came to campus because they wanted to close the deal with no competition. Every year there’s guys who slipped through the cracks and end up at places like Eastern Washington, or Santa Clara or Loyola Chicago…….he made it P5 just based on Athletic ability. I guess we’ll see Well "ward" there we go. A little "dog in the fight" a bit of bias?! Ha... good to know. Some stuff makes more sense now... that actually doesnt! So, in watching parts of three recent practices he has been getting his hat handed to him by not an elite front line. So, minutes played on this particular D1 P5 roster is really not a great measuring stick. Wow... you must be a relative. Coaches don't take flyers in talent? They do if they recognize talent as good teams have depth to wait and see, and certainly will. And, when they've struggled to win those teams have to! Have you seen the current and recent rosters here. Most were flyers of some sort. So coaches were disappointed cuz he wasn't playing, cuz they knew he was talented... yet didn't recruit him, publicly? Were trying to sneak him by others? Wanted to close on campus with no competition? Hmmmm... how does that work? You visit and no one else can recruit you? You have to accept on the visit? You can't commit then visit/listen to other schools? Yikes, super double secret stuff. Ever deal with recruiting? Cuz that's not how it works... ever! But... great story. PS- not slamming what the kid has been thru or might actually become. I've seen him play in games vs inferior competition where he was the tallest kid by 6". I've seen him practice vs a lower tier but pretty physical D1 team. He's a project... like the word or not, it is what it is. And lucky for him he is athletic as it makes his transition easier. But, your close connection (never say you stayed at the team hotel😉) has obviously got you selling some weird takes. But, all Beaver fans hope that more than 3-5 Pac12 wins are coming. Double digits overall should be cake with this NC schedule! Anyone who takes time to get on an obscure board about a college basketball team that hasn’t been very successful the last few years. Is obviously pretty into it. Second of all, I went back a long way, and you’ve been dogging this kid for a long time. You not knowing that recruiting has changed significantly over the last 4 to 6 years compared to how we were recruited when we played, shows that you don’t understand the difference between recruitment today and recruitment 10 or 20 years ago, which leads me to believe that you probably were never recruited. “we will offer you today if you commit today” that’s a pretty common deal for the moderately or lowly recruited players. Then you rambling on about him playing in a small town against kids that were 6 inches or more shorter than him. Also shows that you don’t realize that basketball is a guards game….. if you are not a guard, you completely rely on the skill set of your guards in how you are able to play your game. In college freshman, are supposed to get their butts handed to them for a little while. They improve faster than people who have played at a high level of competition for a long time. Anyway, it’s pretty clear that you’re not very impressed with using a scholarship on him. |
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