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Post by Dave86 on Sept 21, 2023 17:58:33 GMT -8
Seeing as half the links I have posted have already been posted, hopefully this time I'm doing something unique!
A joint presss conference by Oregon State and Washington State. This youtube video was posted today and lasts over an hour.
... and hopefully this hasn't been posted before.
Sigh.
Dave
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 22, 2023 9:50:46 GMT -8
We have some very smart people in our corner. WSU appears to be an excellent ally, the prez and AD were well-spoken and informed. Our president is smart as a whip but is hamstrung somewhat in news conferences, etc., by English not being her native language.
My big takeaway was Barnes concentrating on the "wellness of the student-athlete" topic and how much he stressed regional competition as being the preferred choice. I am glad to hear this. I don't want us playing some far-flung combination of schools in states two or three time zones away.
Sounds as if we will be playing Oregon and WSU will be playing Washington in the future, after hearing both ADs say that you can't use emotion when making a business decision. I was disappointed that neither insisted the only way this competition would continue was as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one.
Mr. Chung forgot (when asked about what he's learned about OSU) that we are also a sun grant university. Land, sea, space and sun, along with Cornell.
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Post by orangeattack on Sept 22, 2023 11:21:43 GMT -8
We have some very smart people in our corner. WSU appears to be an excellent ally, the prez and AD were well-spoken and informed. Our president is smart as a whip but is hamstrung somewhat in news conferences, etc., by English not being her native language. My big takeaway was Barnes concentrating on the "wellness of the student-athlete" topic and how much he stressed regional competition as being the preferred choice. I am glad to hear this. I don't want us playing some far-flung combination of schools in states two or three time zones away. Sounds as if we will be playing Oregon and WSU will be playing Washington in the future, after hearing both ADs say that you can't use emotion when making a business decision. I was disappointed that neither insisted the only way this competition would continue was as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one. Mr. Chung forgot (when asked about what he's learned about OSU) that we are also a sun grant university. Land, sea, space and sun, along with Cornell. I feel like this is also a business decision, to not allow an unbalanced relationship to exist between the two schools. 10 years from now when Oregon is trying to re-join a West Coast-based conference or region, we will revisit a lot of these conversations. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 22, 2023 11:39:05 GMT -8
Agree with all. The rivalry games MUST be equal footing or there is no game (unless UO pays us to go to Autzen every year).
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 22, 2023 11:40:37 GMT -8
Disappointed there was not much disucssion on conference rebuild vs other. Not saying they have to show all of their cards on what they are heavily considering. But some statement on possible pathways, what are the must haves for the two schools ahead, commitment to Power 4/5, etc.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 22, 2023 13:01:50 GMT -8
Agree with all. The rivalry games MUST be equal footing or there is no game (unless UO pays us to go to Autzen every year). I am hoping for a split-gate model moving forward, last game of the season. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 22, 2023 13:12:51 GMT -8
Disappointed there was not much disucssion on conference rebuild vs other. Not saying they have to show all of their cards on what they are heavily considering. But some statement on possible pathways, what are the must haves for the two schools ahead, commitment to Power 4/5, etc. Joining with the MWC and continuing under the Pac-12 (or 11, or 13) banner qualifies as a rebuild. Seeing as how the Big 12 has expressed no interest whatsoever in adding us and Wazzu, it's the only reasonable choice for a "rebuild." Pretty obvious both schools are emphasizing the future is regional competition, not foolishly flying off to play league games in all sports against Tulane, Rice, Temple and other schools in the Central or Eastern time zones from the AAC, another league that has expressly said it doesn't want us either. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 22, 2023 13:15:37 GMT -8
We have some very smart people in our corner. WSU appears to be an excellent ally, the prez and AD were well-spoken and informed. Our president is smart as a whip but is hamstrung somewhat in news conferences, etc., by English not being her native language. My big takeaway was Barnes concentrating on the "wellness of the student-athlete" topic and how much he stressed regional competition as being the preferred choice. I am glad to hear this. I don't want us playing some far-flung combination of schools in states two or three time zones away. Sounds as if we will be playing Oregon and WSU will be playing Washington in the future, after hearing both ADs say that you can't use emotion when making a business decision. I was disappointed that neither insisted the only way this competition would continue was as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one. Mr. Chung forgot (when asked about what he's learned about OSU) that we are also a sun grant university. Land, sea, space and sun, along with Cornell. Of course, they are going to continue as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one. It is going to be relatively fair. No one is going to be stupid enough to kill a golden goose. Penn State replaced Cornell as the Northeastern Sun Grant Association Center in 2014. The three Land, Sea, Space, and Sun universities are Hawai'i, Oregon State, and Penn State. You really have to expand the definition of "Sun Grant University," in order to include Cornell, and, at that point, you would have to include other universities like Georgia. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 22, 2023 13:17:57 GMT -8
We have some very smart people in our corner. WSU appears to be an excellent ally, the prez and AD were well-spoken and informed. Our president is smart as a whip but is hamstrung somewhat in news conferences, etc., by English not being her native language. My big takeaway was Barnes concentrating on the "wellness of the student-athlete" topic and how much he stressed regional competition as being the preferred choice. I am glad to hear this. I don't want us playing some far-flung combination of schools in states two or three time zones away. Sounds as if we will be playing Oregon and WSU will be playing Washington in the future, after hearing both ADs say that you can't use emotion when making a business decision. I was disappointed that neither insisted the only way this competition would continue was as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one. Mr. Chung forgot (when asked about what he's learned about OSU) that we are also a sun grant university. Land, sea, space and sun, along with Cornell. Of course, they are going to continue as equal competitors, home-and-home, one-for-one. It is going to be relatively fair. No one is going to be stupid enough to kill a golden goose. Penn State replaced Cornell as the Northeastern Sun Grant Association Center in 2014. The three Land, Sea, Space, and Sun universities are Hawai'i, Oregon State, and Penn State. You really have to expand the definition of "Sun Grant University," in order to include Cornell, and, at that point, you have to include other universities like Georgia. I did not know that Cornell was no longer a Sun Grant university. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 22, 2023 13:18:18 GMT -8
Disappointed there was not much disucssion on conference rebuild vs other. Not saying they have to show all of their cards on what they are heavily considering. But some statement on possible pathways, what are the must haves for the two schools ahead, commitment to Power 4/5, etc. Joining with the MWC and continuing under the Pac-12 (or 11, or 13) banner qualifies as a rebuild. Seeing as how the Big 12 has expressed no interest whatsoever in adding us and Wazzu, it's the only reasonable choice for a "rebuild." Pretty obvious both schools are emphasizing the future is regional competition, not foolishly flying off to play league games in all sports against Tulane, Rice, Temple and other schools in the Central or Eastern time zones from the AAC, another league that has expressly said it doesn't want us either. AAC has expressly said that it does not want us, mostly because we would come as Viking raiders, as opposed to humble beggars. We don't care what the AAC wants. We care what the programs in the AAC want. |
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Post by beaverdude on Sept 22, 2023 13:36:05 GMT -8
Agree with all. The rivalry games MUST be equal footing or there is no game (unless UO pays us to go to Autzen every year). Unless UO pays us to come to RESER every year. We should never set foot in the landfill after this season ends. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 22, 2023 13:38:13 GMT -8
If the Beavers continue to play UO and UW without missing a season, that means they have six teams set on the schedule through 2027 if you count the three nonconference games scheduled for each year through then.
IF OSU and WSU were to stay the Pac-2 for two years (for whatever reason), that goes a long way to having a full schedule set.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 22, 2023 14:53:58 GMT -8
If the Beavers continue to play UO and UW without missing a season, that means they have six teams set on the schedule through 2027 if you count the three nonconference games scheduled for each year through then. IF OSU and WSU were to stay the Pac-2 for two years (for whatever reason), that goes a long way to having a full schedule set. Now figure out a 31-game MBB/WBB basketball schedule, a 56-game baseball/softball schedule, a 20-game M/W soccer schedule, a 30-match volleyball schedule, a gymnastics, T&F/CC and crew schedule, and you've got it knocked. All with us having no TV deal so we could get paid for home football games. And every one of our teams would have no conference championship to play for, no conference tournaments to compete in, and no way to reach postseason except via an at-large berth. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 22, 2023 15:21:21 GMT -8
If the Beavers continue to play UO and UW without missing a season, that means they have six teams set on the schedule through 2027 if you count the three nonconference games scheduled for each year through then. IF OSU and WSU were to stay the Pac-2 for two years (for whatever reason), that goes a long way to having a full schedule set. Now figure out a 31-game MBB/WBB basketball schedule, a 56-game baseball/softball schedule, a 20-game M/W soccer schedule, a 30-match volleyball schedule, a gymnastics, T&F/CC and crew schedule, and you've got it knocked. All with us having no TV deal so we could get paid for home football games. And every one of our teams would have no conference championship to play for, no conference tournaments to compete in, and no way to reach postseason except via an at-large berth. Clearly IF they were to go this route, they would get deals in place with the MWC, WCC, etc. to fill out those schedules. As far as the TV deal, they could maybe work something out with Apple or another streaming service for two years I don't think they are actually going to try to do it. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 22, 2023 15:36:37 GMT -8
Now figure out a 31-game MBB/WBB basketball schedule, a 56-game baseball/softball schedule, a 20-game M/W soccer schedule, a 30-match volleyball schedule, a gymnastics, T&F/CC and crew schedule, and you've got it knocked. All with us having no TV deal so we could get paid for home football games. And every one of our teams would have no conference championship to play for, no conference tournaments to compete in, and no way to reach postseason except via an at-large berth. Clearly IF they were to go this route, they would get deals in place with the MWC, WCC, etc. to fill out those schedules. As far as the TV deal, they could maybe work something out with Apple or another streaming service for two years I don't think they are actually going to try to do it. I can't imagine any streaming service making the investment it would take to broadcast the "minor" sports without football programming. I could not imagine a streaming service making the investment to stream football and the rest for just two years with ANY full conference, much less just two small market teams. People dont quite get it. If Apple were to invest in starting a streaming service, it VERY likely will not cost them 7 times as much to stream 14 teams worth of games than to stream 2 teams worth of games. Economy of scale... the initial prototype/run generally costs multiples of the later units. |
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