Mike84
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Post by Mike84 on Sept 12, 2023 12:52:45 GMT -8
Even ignoring the disintegration of the Pac-12, I'm not sure I understand what the future was going to be of the Pac-12 network. Was it destined to die either way? I mean, it's guaranteed to die now, right?
In the absence of a dedicated conference network (which I think every P5 conference has), how does soccer and volleyball and golf and maybe even women's basketball and maybe even baseball get on TV? Barring OSU and WSU getting and accepting an invite from the Big-10 or Big-12, are we pretty much guaranteed that there is going to be no coverage for most of our minor sports at least for the next couple of years?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 12, 2023 13:02:55 GMT -8
Even ignoring the disintegration of the Pac-12, I'm not sure I understand what the future was going to be of the Pac-12 network. Was it destined to die either way? I mean, it's guaranteed to die now, right? In the absence of a dedicated conference network (which I think every P5 conference has), how does soccer and volleyball and golf and maybe even women's basketball and maybe even baseball get on TV? Barring OSU and WSU getting and accepting an invite from the Big-10 or Big-12, are we pretty much guaranteed that there is going to be no coverage for most of our minor sports at least for the next couple of years? What do the contracts look like? |
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Post by Mike84 on Sept 12, 2023 13:15:01 GMT -8
Even ignoring the disintegration of the Pac-12, I'm not sure I understand what the future was going to be of the Pac-12 network. Was it destined to die either way? I mean, it's guaranteed to die now, right? In the absence of a dedicated conference network (which I think every P5 conference has), how does soccer and volleyball and golf and maybe even women's basketball and maybe even baseball get on TV? Barring OSU and WSU getting and accepting an invite from the Big-10 or Big-12, are we pretty much guaranteed that there is going to be no coverage for most of our minor sports at least for the next couple of years? What do the contracts look like? I would think that any contracts go out the window if the Pac-12 network is broadcasting only OSU and WSU sports. I would think that Dish and Cox and all the other carriers would stop carrying it until/unless the price paid for it was so low that the network infrastructure and salaries were unsustainable. I'm even worried about THIS season, wondering if OSU and WSU even want the burden of being involved in the conference trying to figure out how the Pac-12 network is going to meet its current obligations with employees fleeing for greener future pastures. Either way, without a conference network, and even with a conference network in a mega conference that has too many teams to cover, is one outcome of this whole thing going to be that the minor sports get screwed on travel, losing regional rivalries, AND losing what limited TV exposure they had? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 12, 2023 13:20:57 GMT -8
What do the contracts look like? I would think that any contracts go out the window if the Pac-12 network is broadcasting only OSU and WSU sports. I would think that Dish and Cox and all the other carriers would stop carrying it until/unless the price paid for it was so low that the network infrastructure and salaries were unsustainable. I'm even worried about THIS season, wondering if OSU and WSU even want the burden of being involved in the conference trying to figure out how the Pac-12 network is going to meet its current obligations with employees fleeing for greener future pastures. Either way, without a conference network, and even with a conference network in a mega conference that has too many teams to cover, is one outcome of this whole thing going to be that the minor sports get screwed on travel, losing regional rivalries, AND losing what limited TV exposure they had? The Pac-12 Network, in its current form, makes money every year. There is the 28% issue, where it missed expectations by as much as 28%, but it is still a money-maker. The Pac-12 Network is also valuable, because of its infrastructure. For example, I believe that it has built-in equipment and may own portions of all of the stadiums of the Pac-12, which has value. It has equipment and various things that all have value. I don't know what the contracts look like, though, so I don't know if it would make sense to continue in its current form beyond this year. |
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Post by p8nted on Sept 14, 2023 8:23:33 GMT -8
The MWC has a streaming channel and they currently stream Women's Volleyball and Soccer this fall. I know they also do BB and some baseball. They also have compressed games, highlights, and full archived football games.
You don't need full blown studios and a network production facility to stream the minor sports.
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Post by fishwrapper on Sept 14, 2023 10:41:52 GMT -8
What do the contracts look like? The contracts look like they expire at midnight on July 31 next year. Mike's question is a valid one: for all of the sturm und drang associated with the P12 Networks deal, when it happened, it put minor sports on TV that had not previously been there, and increased the frequency of those who had only a few bits of exposure. Take baseball: prior to the P12 TV deal, all the baseball games were streamed live except those few that were on TV, putting the vast bulk of those seasons under the school's direct control for production and distribution. When P12 TV hit, suddenly a ton of games were on TV, and the streams were not available. That the TV signals had a smaller footprint than the streaming games didn't matter, apparently... But, just as suddenly, we started seeing softball on TV. And wrestling. And volleyball, etc. Will the schools retain the rights stream that which isn't on TV going forward (which they've done via the P12's excellent screaming site...)? Will they be required to provide that content...? All good questions. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 14, 2023 10:54:55 GMT -8
What do the contracts look like? The contracts look like they expire at midnight on July 31 next year. Mike's question is a valid one: for all of the sturm und drang associated with the P12 Networks deal, when it happened, it put minor sports on TV that had not previously been there, and increased the frequency of those who had only a few bits of exposure. Take baseball: prior to the P12 TV deal, all the baseball games were streamed live except those few that were on TV, putting the vast bulk of those seasons under the school's direct control for production and distribution. When P12 TV hit, suddenly a ton of games were on TV, and the streams were not available. That the TV signals had a smaller footprint than the streaming games didn't matter, apparently... But, just as suddenly, we started seeing softball on TV. And wrestling. And volleyball, etc. Will the schools retain the rights stream that which isn't on TV going forward (which they've done via the P12's excellent screaming site...)? Will they be required to provide that content...? All good questions. Funny typo, unless it was intentional. Still funny. "Screaming site." I feel that way many times while watching the Pac-12 Channel. |
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Post by fishwrapper on Sept 14, 2023 12:24:40 GMT -8
An honest mistake. And I own it - however it comes across!
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