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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 30, 2023 10:13:55 GMT -8
I'm sure the Denver Nuggets would mop the floor with the Real Madrid Baloncesto, the defending EuroLeague Champions. And the Houston Astros would sweep both the Orix Buffaloes and Honkbalclub Allen Weerbaar. There is only one competition in all sports that allows clubs/franchises compete for "World Champion", and that's the FIFA Club World Cup. Actually, that’s not entirely true. There is the World Baseball Classic, for one, and if you look at other sports like tennis or track, there are numerous worldwide competitions. Also, the WBC has been held five times with Japan claiming the title three times. Maybe you want to rethink your assumption that the cheating Astros would beat the Buffaloes. The Olympic committee considers chess to be a sport, so there's another sport that has a world champion. I don't know if they do teams or not on chess. |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 30, 2023 10:49:25 GMT -8
WTF!! Where in the sam hill does the gun talk come into play from this thread??? Is there some reason what people in Portugal think about shootings is related to "World Champion"... or even US arrogance?
There are some forks in the road in most threads, but WTF??
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 30, 2023 11:10:39 GMT -8
Actually, that’s not entirely true. There is the World Baseball Classic, for one, and if you look at other sports like tennis or track, there are numerous worldwide competitions. Also, the WBC has been held five times with Japan claiming the title three times. Maybe you want to rethink your assumption that the cheating Astros would beat the Buffaloes. The Olympic committee considers chess to be a sport, so there's another sport that has a world champion. I don't know if they do teams or not on chess.
Chess has an "Olympiad", in which all the national teams play every two years. There is a "World Team Championship", a little more like the World Cup in that only a few national teams qualify, also every two years.
There is now a "World Team Rapid Championship", in which teams are not national, but more like clubs. ("Rapid" means a time control in which games are around 30 minutes, allowing more games each day.) Some of these teams are actual chess clubs, others are more-or-less national, some are just thrown together at the last minute.
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Post by messi on Aug 30, 2023 11:39:29 GMT -8
I'm sure the Denver Nuggets would mop the floor with the Real Madrid Baloncesto, the defending EuroLeague Champions. And the Houston Astros would sweep both the Orix Buffaloes and Honkbalclub Allen Weerbaar. There is only one competition in all sports that allows clubs/franchises compete for "World Champion", and that's the FIFA Club World Cup. Actually, that’s not entirely true. There is the World Baseball Classic, for one, and if you look at other sports like tennis or track, there are numerous worldwide competitions. Also, the WBC has been held five times with Japan claiming the title three times. Maybe you want to rethink your assumption that the cheating Astros would beat the Buffaloes. I wasn't referring to national teams, who compete in the Olympics, World Cup, World Baseball Classic, etc. By clubs and franchises, I'm referring to anyone from the Portland Trail Blazers to Manchester United. The players on those teams can come from difference countries, but they play for a club or franchise. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 30, 2023 11:51:58 GMT -8
Actually, that’s not entirely true. There is the World Baseball Classic, for one, and if you look at other sports like tennis or track, there are numerous worldwide competitions. Also, the WBC has been held five times with Japan claiming the title three times. Maybe you want to rethink your assumption that the cheating Astros would beat the Buffaloes. I wasn't referring to national teams, who compete in the Olympics, World Cup, World Baseball Classic, etc. By clubs and franchises, I'm referring to anyone from the Portland Trail Blazers to Manchester United. The players on those teams can come from difference countries, but they play for a club or franchise. But Manchester United doesn't have a team in the World Cup..... |
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Post by ag87 on Aug 30, 2023 11:57:02 GMT -8
WTF!! Where in the sam hill does the gun talk come into play from this thread??? Is there some reason what people in Portugal think about shootings is related to "World Champion"... or even US arrogance? There are some forks in the road in most threads, but WTF?? foghorn leghorn? |
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 30, 2023 12:05:35 GMT -8
I wasn't referring to national teams, who compete in the Olympics, World Cup, World Baseball Classic, etc. By clubs and franchises, I'm referring to anyone from the Portland Trail Blazers to Manchester United. The players on those teams can come from difference countries, but they play for a club or franchise. But Manchester United doesn't have a team in the World Cup..... Messi referred to the FIFA Club World Cup. Which by design Manchester United (  ) is in competition. "Every year, the FIFA Club World Cup™ sees the winners of each confederation's premier competitions come together with the host nation's representative to compete for the coveted trophy. Often highly competitive and action packed, it gives fans of all generations the opportunity to see an array of global talent." |
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Post by irimi on Aug 30, 2023 12:07:41 GMT -8
But Manchester United doesn't have a team in the World Cup..... Messi referred to the FIFA Club World Cup. Which by design Manchester United ( ) is in competition. "Every year, the FIFA Club World Cup™ sees the winners of each confederation's premier competitions come together with the host nation's representative to compete for the coveted trophy. Often highly competitive and action packed, it gives fans of all generations the opportunity to see an array of global talent." I see. I don't follow Club soccer. |
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 30, 2023 12:08:35 GMT -8
WTF!! Where in the sam hill does the gun talk come into play from this thread??? Is there some reason what people in Portugal think about shootings is related to "World Champion"... or even US arrogance? There are some forks in the road in most threads, but WTF?? foghorn leghorn?  |
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Post by jayvinson on Aug 30, 2023 12:29:04 GMT -8
The World Baseball Classic is NOT a championship to determine which is the best professional team. It is an all-star tournament for nations- more of an exhibition than a real determination of best in the world. It's nice to win, but who really gives a crap? I would venture a guess that fans of Japan's best pro team care a lot more about that team than they do the WBC. I can't speak for other countries, but I know for certain that America's team is not the best that could be offered. There is no chance that a Japanese champion or Mexican League champion could consistently stand up to MLB's best teams. Same holds for NBA teams vs other countries elite pro teams. Look at the US FIBA roster and tell me that anyone other than the most hardcore NBA fans know who these guys are.
As far as American "arrogance".... yes there is plenty of that, but much might also be tied to jealousy. The old saying is "it ain't bragging if you can do it!"
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 30, 2023 12:33:27 GMT -8
I'm sure the Denver Nuggets would mop the floor with the Real Madrid Baloncesto, the defending EuroLeague Champions. And the Houston Astros would sweep both the Orix Buffaloes and Honkbalclub Allen Weerbaar. There is only one competition in all sports that allows clubs/franchises compete for "World Champion", and that's the FIFA Club World Cup. Real Madrid beat AL-Ahly 4-1 and Al-Hilal 5-3, which upset Flamengo 3-2 in the semis, to win the 2022 FIFA Club World Cup in Morocco. Six of the seven teams competing in the 2023 FIFA Club World Cup are set with only the Copa Liberatores still left to work itself out. The six teams in the FIFA Club World Cup currently are Al Ahly (CAF Champion), Al-Ittihad (Saudi Champion), Auckland City (OFC Champion), León (CONCACAF Champion), Manchester City (UEFA Champion), and the Urawa Red Diamonds (AFC Champion). The UEFA Champion has won the FIFA Club World Cup every year for the past decade. Corinthians beat Chelsea 1-0 in Japan in 2012. Otherwise, the UEFA Champion won every year for the past 16 years. A CONMEBOL Champion won the three Tournaments before, though. There is an IFAF world championship for American football. (The United States won the last three and did not participate in the first two, which Japan won.) There is the WBC. There is a FIBA International Cup. The NBA has sent the G-League Champions the last five tournaments, except the 2021 tournament, which the NBA did not send anyone to, because of COVID-19. The G-League Champion has only won in the two matchups with the African Champion, losing each time to all teams from Europe and Latin America. The NBA and their national monopoly is annoying, and the NBA are cowards for not playing international teams. If UEFA does it, the NBA can, too. |
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Post by messi on Aug 30, 2023 13:00:09 GMT -8
I wasn't referring to national teams, who compete in the Olympics, World Cup, World Baseball Classic, etc. By clubs and franchises, I'm referring to anyone from the Portland Trail Blazers to Manchester United. The players on those teams can come from difference countries, but they play for a club or franchise. But Manchester United doesn't have a team in the World Cup..... No, but they can compete in the Club World Cup (a different tournament than the World Cup we're familiar with) should they win the UEFA Champions League, like they did in 2008. 2008 Club World Cup
Looks like TheGlove answered before I did. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 30, 2023 14:43:30 GMT -8
I think it only helps the sports. It’s the dream of a lot of kids to play against Messi. Likewise, playing against the stars of the MLB or the NBA would inspire kids everywhere. But of course, the NBA is kinda like the big brother of NCAA football—both are in need of some oversight. A player like Lillard demanding to be traded to one team only or he will sit out all year? Ridiculous.
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